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Posted by wotyzoid on Apr-24-2007 23:00:

How would you feel..

NO THIS IS NOT ANOTHER TRANCE IS DEAD THREAD, but i've been curious, if people complain about the current state of the musical scene, why dont dj's simply play some of the older stuff. I know that us noobs wouldn't even notice since we dont even know half the tracks played at an even, but how would you guys that know a lot feel if a dj came and played a wonderful set but mostly composed of older songs?


Posted by Nayil on Apr-24-2007 23:12:

that would mean " Trance is Dead, and Trance used to be alive"

this thread is more like saying..... Is Trance dead ?


Posted by wotyzoid on Apr-24-2007 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Nayil
that would mean " Trance is Dead, and Trance used to be alive"

this thread is more like saying..... Is Trance dead ?


Trance isnt DEAD!!geez its just not in such good quality these days, its not necessarily about trance, duh.


Posted by Nayil on Apr-24-2007 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
Trance isnt DEAD!!geez its just not in such good quality these days, its not necessarily about trance, duh.






duh u


Posted by Dj EntycE on Apr-25-2007 00:03:

I seriously wouldn't mind. It's not as if people go to the club to yell "choon" every 5 mins or so.


Posted by Nayil on Apr-25-2007 00:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj EntycE
I seriously wouldn't mind. It's not as if people go to the club to yell "choon" every 5 mins or so.



wouldnt mind!!??!?!?!?


ITS A MUST..... at least play 3 to 4 OLD STUFF.... tracks that u r known for.


Posted by Fledz on Apr-25-2007 02:10:

I'd say the quality is better these days, you just have to wade through more shit to get to it.

Tracks from the late 90s are really good but the majority of tracks from earlier are just plain. Bad production, basic melodies and sometimes too raw.

You do have your gems and classics but I don't agree that early 90's was better than now.


Posted by redtrancesouth on Apr-25-2007 02:28:

quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
Trance isnt DEAD!!geez its just not in such good quality these days, its not necessarily about trance, duh.


I agree totally. I think some of this has to do with label releases going more towards digital, leading to more releases which is giving less quality. I would love to hear more old tracks played. I think one of the reasons that Tiesto has gained some of his lure is due to the fact that his sets are more "predictable", at least as far as track selection goes. A lot of todays djs just want to be the guy with the most unreleased/new releases on their track list as if it makes them more popular in and of itself.


Posted by shaw on Apr-25-2007 02:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Nayil
that would mean " Trance is Dead, and Trance used to be alive"

this thread is more like saying..... Is Trance dead ?


quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
I'd say the quality is better these days, you just have to wade through more shit to get to it.

Tracks from the late 90s are really good but the majority of tracks from earlier are just plain. Bad production, basic melodies and sometimes too raw.

You do have your gems and classics but I don't agree that early 90's was better than now.


quote:
Originally posted by redtrancesouth
I agree totally. I think some of this has to do with label releases going more towards digital, leading to more releases which is giving less quality. I would love to hear more old tracks played. I think one of the reasons that Tiesto has gained some of his lure is due to the fact that his sets are more "predictable", at least as far as track selection goes. A lot of todays djs just want to be the guy with the most unreleased/new releases on their track list as if it makes them more popular in and of itself.


None of you is answering the question. The question is not whether newer trance (for whatever reason, even if it's just that popular new trance is bad) is superior or inferior to older stuff. It's also not about WHY you think whatever you do about that debate. The question is "what would your reaction be if a DJ strictly stuck to mostly older stuff--not necessarily even 'classics?'"

someone might hate new stuff, but think it was fun. Someone else might loathe all the older stuff, but not like hearing someone play a lot of tracks that he's heard. Or not. Carry on.


Posted by Project-K on Apr-25-2007 02:49:

I'd love it. This is why I listen to classic electronica channel on di 95% of the time. (and house the other 5% - I switch when they start playing happy hardcore )


Posted by spc on Apr-25-2007 02:50:

I wouldn't mind if someone just put on an Oakenfold 99 essential mix at a club and pretended they were djing... then I might go out and see a trance dj besides j00f or lawrence


Posted by Spirit5 on Apr-25-2007 03:42:

I wouldn't mind that at all. I would actually prefer it. There's hardly any "stand-out" tracks anymore. Back around the late 90s and early 00s, there was. But back then, I was too young to enter clubs...think the scene is kind of in a funk right now....too many vocals and stupid breakdowns, not enough depth, musicmanship, truly good compositions....quality. I still go crazy over the tracks from back in the day...like Xpander, Carte Blanche, Heaven Scent, Flaming June, Surreal, Synaethesia, Affinity, Dido (Armin van Buuren's Universal Religion Remix), Far From Over, Endless Wave, We Came, Love Stimulation, Netherworld, Summersault etc.


Posted by spc on Apr-25-2007 03:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
I wouldn't mind that at all. I would actually prefer it. There's hardly any "stand-out" tracks anymore. Back around the late 90s and early 00s, there was. But back then, I was too young to enter clubs....


Haha yeah! You took the words out of my mouth.. I was in the same situation as well... I would have killed to see Oakey in 99


Posted by Spirit5 on Apr-25-2007 03:50:

quote:
Originally posted by spc
Haha yeah! You took the words out of my mouth.. I was in the same situation as well... I would have killed to see Oakey in 99


Yeah me too, unforunitely I saw him when he starting to go downhill...around 2001, 2002...he still released some good mixed CDs, but when I saw him live at the Area: One, he was kind of disapointing....Carl Cox was much better as a live DJ IMO. Oakenfold I thought was better with mixed CDs/essential mixes, but I've been told that back in his Twilo days in the late 90s and his mixes at Amnesia and Space in Ibiza..were amazing. Had a few live sets from back then...they are long lost...


Posted by RapidFire on Apr-25-2007 06:47:

Re: How would you feel..

quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
NO THIS IS NOT ANOTHER TRANCE IS DEAD THREAD, but i've been curious, if people complain about the current state of the musical scene, why dont dj's simply play some of the older stuff. I know that us noobs wouldn't even notice since we dont even know half the tracks played at an even, but how would you guys that know a lot feel if a dj came and played a wonderful set but mostly composed of older songs?


ive actually been giving this alot of thought lately. pretty much all of the dance music that i listen to is from the 90s and itd be absolutely kickass to go to an event that had the djs playing all the old school stuff.


Posted by |Thrax| on Apr-25-2007 07:12:

it's not that trance is dead, the trance "sound" is dead.


Posted by DJ Dingel on Apr-25-2007 07:22:

I have mixed feelings. I'd be disappointed if I arrived expecting a regular club night and instead got a a string of back-to-back classics (a la Clubber's Guide to Trance or someting). Although they're classics for a reason, many have been played to death.

I'd be more impressed if I went clubbing and the DJ played a ton of old tunes I hadn't heard. If my friends and I went out tonight and heard Jason Porter playing tracks from his Trellis mix, we could easily be tricked into thinking that he was playing the best new discoveries from 2007, rather than forgotten gems of 1994. I very much encourage DJs to play older tunes, but dig into the back catalogue, don't settle for well-known classics.


Posted by RapidFire on Apr-25-2007 07:38:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Dingel
I have mixed feelings. I'd be disappointed if I arrived expecting a regular club night and instead got a a string of back-to-back classics (a la Clubber's Guide to Trance or someting). Although they're classics for a reason, many have been played to death.

I'd be more impressed if I went clubbing and the DJ played a ton of old tunes I hadn't heard. If my friends and I went out tonight and heard Jason Porter playing tracks from his Trellis mix, we could easily be tricked into thinking that he was playing the best new discoveries from 2007, rather than forgotten gems of 1994. I very much encourage DJs to play older tunes, but dig into the back catalogue, don't settle for well-known classics.


agreed


Posted by KilldaDJ on Apr-25-2007 13:10:

lol?


Posted by RebeL9 on Apr-25-2007 13:17:

the thing is that those DJs that sometimes throws in one or two old tunes ALWAYS plays the already played to death classics. There are tons and tons of old tune from early to mid 90s which are excellent (Superstition records, Rising High etc) and sound fresch today.
I would love to hear a DJ play oldies which I don't recognice. Imagine going to a club and the DJ plays a set like that Jason Porter 1994 set of all unknown but awesome tunes. That would be the bomb.


Posted by RebeL9 on Apr-25-2007 13:18:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Dingel
I have mixed feelings. I'd be disappointed if I arrived expecting a regular club night and instead got a a string of back-to-back classics (a la Clubber's Guide to Trance or someting). Although they're classics for a reason, many have been played to death.

I'd be more impressed if I went clubbing and the DJ played a ton of old tunes I hadn't heard. If my friends and I went out tonight and heard Jason Porter playing tracks from his Trellis mix, we could easily be tricked into thinking that he was playing the best new discoveries from 2007, rather than forgotten gems of 1994. I very much encourage DJs to play older tunes, but dig into the back catalogue, don't settle for well-known classics.


lol you stole all my comments


Posted by basd on Apr-25-2007 14:02:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Dingel
I'd be more impressed if I went clubbing and the DJ played a ton of old tunes I hadn't heard. If my friends and I went out tonight and heard Jason Porter playing tracks from his Trellis mix, we could easily be tricked into thinking that he was playing the best new discoveries from 2007, rather than forgotten gems of 1994. I very much encourage DJs to play older tunes, but dig into the back catalogue, don't settle for well-known classics.

Although it isn't the late 90's trance sound in particular I'm looking for, I'm feeling the same lately.

I've given up on trying to find the best of the newest releases and started to dig into older progressive stuff instead, because that sound is much more appealing to me. I'd love to see some DJ's do the same when I go out. And, indeed, not just playing the obvious hits in the genre, but show they really spent time digging.


Posted by wotyzoid on Apr-25-2007 18:09:

Thanks for answering my question guys. I was scared you guys were gone, ill definately keep this in mind as i start to go deeper in the field.


Posted by noikeee on Apr-25-2007 20:02:

old over-played tracks = bad; old unheard off or not as beaten to death tracks = good.



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