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Posted by MarcMitchell on Apr-25-2007 04:46:

Earth-like planet found

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Astronomers claim to have discovered, for the first time, an Earth-like planet outside our solar system that could support water -- and potentially life.



This artists rendering released by European Southern Observatory shows the planetary system around the red dwarf Gliese 581.
Researchers have not directly seen the planet and it will be years before more sensitive instruments will be developed to look for signs of life on the planet that is about 190 trillion kilometres away from Earth.

But according to measurements, the planet is about 50 per cent larger and five times heavier than Earth. It orbits Gliese 581 -- a diminutive "red dwarf" star located in the constellation Libra.

Red dwarfs are low-energy stars that give off dim red light and last longer than stars like the Earth's sun. Until a few years ago, astronomers didn't consider these stars as possible hosts of planets that might sustain life.

The new planet is being named Gliese 581 C after its star that is about one-third the size of the Sun and is dimmer and cooler.

Researchers are touting the discovery as a milestone in planet detection and the search for extraterrestrial life

"Because of its temperature and relative proximity, this planet will most probably be a very important target of the future space missions dedicated to the search for extra-terrestrial life," said Xavier Delfosse, a member of the research team from Grenoble University in France, in a statement.

"On the treasure map of the universe, one would be tempted to mark this planet with an X."

Gliese 581 C is so far the smallest planet found beyond our solar system and the first that meets scientists' standards of being potentially hospitable to life.

But scientists say there is still a lot that is unknown. And under current standards scientists use to declare a planet habitable, Mars should be able to host life.

The results of the astronomers' discovery have not been published but have been submitted to the journal Astronomy and Astrophysics.

Gliese 581 C was discovered by the European Southern Observatory's telescope in La Silla, Chile, which has a special instrument that splits light to find wobbles in different wave lengths. The wobbles can reveal the existence of other worlds.

It's uncertain whether its surface is rocky like Earth or if it's a frozen ice ball with liquid water on the surface.

Based on theory, 581 c should have an atmosphere, said University of Geneva astronomer Michel Mayor, one of 11 European scientists on the team that found the planet.

However, what is in that atmosphere is still a mystery; and if it's too thick that could make the planet's surface temperature too hot to host life, Mayor said.

But researchers believe the average temperature to be somewhere between 0 and 40 degrees Celsius (32 and 104 degrees Fahrenheit).

Until now, all 220 planets astronomers have found outside our solar system have suffered from the "Goldilocks problem" -- that is, they have been either too hot, too cold or too monstrous and gaseous like Jupiter.

Scientists believe this new planet, however, could be just right.

"This could be very important," NASA astrobiology expert Chris McKay, who was not part of the discovery team, told the Associated Press. "It doesn't mean there is life, but it means it's an Earth-like planet in terms of potential habitability."

Besides having the right temperature, the discovery team says the new planet is probably full of liquid water which is critical to life. But that is based on theory about how planets form and not on any evidence, said Stephane Udry, the discovery team's lead author and another Geneva astronomer.

Two teams of astronomers, one in Europe and one in the U.S., have been racing to be the first to find a planet like 581 C outside the solar system. The European researchers looked at 100 different stars using a tool called HARPS (High Accuracy Radial Velocity for Planetary Searcher) to find this one planet.

The discovery of 581 C will likely fuel studies of planets circling red dwarf stars similar to Gliese 581. Red dwarf stars are the most common type of stars in our galaxy. About 80 per cent of the stars near Earth are red dwarfs.

Other details of the new planet:

It orbits its star every 13 days.
It circles its star 14 times closer than the Earth orbits the sun.
Gravity is 1.6 times as strong as the Earth's -- so a 150-pound person would feel like 240 pounds on 581 C.
Astronomers previously found a Neptune-sized planet circling the star Gliese 581, as well as evidence of a third planet about eight times the mass of Earth.


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Ok, now an average rocket travels at 25,000 miles per hour and would take 2.5 months to get to Mars.

With this number and changing miles into kilometers we get 40225 kilometers an hour.

So with today's technology how long would it take to travel 190 trillion kilometers? The answer is 585 years. If we were able to travel at the speed of light it'd take 35.187 years to get there going at the speed of 186,000 miles every second.

If my math is wrong I apologize.


Posted by Cro_Addict on Apr-25-2007 05:00:

Re: Earth-like planet found

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Originally posted by MarcMitchell
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Ok, now an average rocket travels at 25,000 miles per hour and would take 2.5 months to get to Mars.

With this number and changing miles into kilometers we get 40225 kilometers an hour.

So with today's technology how long would it take to travel 190 trillion kilometers? The answer is 585 years. If we were able to travel at the speed of light it'd take 35.187 years to get there going at the speed of 186,000 miles every second.

If my math is wrong I apologize.


I get 20.1 years by speed of light


Posted by smuncky on Apr-25-2007 05:05:

i know where im going this summer.


Posted by WuskyPuppy on Apr-25-2007 05:06:

Well if it can support human life, all we need to do is find a way to get one guy and one girl there, and let nature take care of the rest.


Posted by Cro_Addict on Apr-25-2007 05:09:

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Originally posted by WuskyPuppy
Well if it supports life, all we need to do is find a way to get one guy and one girl there, and let nature take care of the rest.


yeah and get a family tree that looks like this
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full of retards doing the Chernobyl child dance


Posted by WuskyPuppy on Apr-25-2007 05:12:

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict
yeah and get a family tree that looks like this
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full of retards doing the Chernobyl child dance


No different from humans here on Earth.


Posted by m2j on Apr-25-2007 08:59:

sweet.
we'll have somewhere to move once we're done totally trashing this planet. woohoo!


Posted by spitty on Apr-25-2007 12:13:

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Originally posted by WuskyPuppy
No different from humans here on Earth.


statement depends on believing that all of mankind came from two people in a garden


Posted by Dr. DAS on Apr-25-2007 13:31:

Re: Re: Earth-like planet found

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict
I get 20.1 years by speed of light


Nerds.


Posted by Yohan on Apr-25-2007 13:33:

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Originally posted by Dr. DAS
Nerds.

Nerds need loving too! (even if it's alien lovin')


Posted by Cro_Addict on Apr-25-2007 13:34:

Re: Re: Re: Earth-like planet found

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Originally posted by Dr. DAS
Nerds.


Hey shut up!..lol

I had many more calculations, but i didnt want to come off like an ignorant fuck, so i just put that one thing..


Posted by English Rachel on Apr-25-2007 13:36:

There is too much gravity - best we can hope for is pancake-like bugs!

Joy!


Posted by Dr. DAS on Apr-25-2007 13:37:

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict

full of retards doing the Chernobyl child dance


Chernobyl Child FTW!!!


I love how our scientific community talks about whether planet A or planet B could support life. We assume that all life breathes oxygen, needs water to survive, is carbon based, tolerates our temeratures, is visible to our primitive eyes.

It's entirely possible that we don't know shit about shit.


Posted by Cro_Addict on Apr-25-2007 13:44:

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Originally posted by Dr. DAS

I love how our scientific community talks about whether planet A or planet B could support life. We assume that all life breathes oxygen, needs water to survive, is carbon based, tolerates our temeratures, is visible to our primitive eyes.


I 100% agree. What if some species are built differently. And to survive they dont need water or the atmosphere.


Posted by Arsalan on Apr-25-2007 13:48:

interesting nonsense


Posted by Cro_Addict on Apr-25-2007 13:52:

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Originally posted by Arsalan
nonsense


nonsense??


This is very interesting good stuff. Then again this is coming from a guy who watches the science channel every day for as long as possible


Posted by jon jon on Apr-25-2007 14:15:

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Originally posted by Dr. DAS
It's entirely possible that we don't know shit about shit.


I'd say it's historical fact...


Posted by exstasie on Apr-25-2007 14:32:

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Originally posted by spitty
statement depends on believing that all of mankind came from two people in a garden


I thought his comment was in regards to our human race being a bunch a retards haha...


Not that made up Adam & Eve stuff..pshh..haha :P


Posted by WuskyPuppy on Apr-25-2007 15:23:

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Originally posted by exstasie
I thought his comment was in regards to our human race being a bunch a retards haha...


Not that made up Adam & Eve stuff..pshh..haha :P


It was a bit of both.

And whether you believe in Adam & Eve or something else, I think it's safe to say that, whatever man's origin was like, there definitely wasn't 6 billion of us. You know some inbreeding had to be going on.


Posted by Dr. DAS on Apr-25-2007 15:28:

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Originally posted by WuskyPuppy
It was a bit of both.

And whether you believe in Adam & Eve or something else, I think it's safe to say that, whatever man's origin was like, there definitely wasn't 6 billion of us. You know some inbreeding had to be going on.
Especially in China!


Posted by jchung52 on Apr-25-2007 15:30:

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Originally posted by Dr. DAS
Especially in India!


fixed


Posted by Yohan on Apr-25-2007 15:31:

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Originally posted by Dr. DAS
Especially in China!

And among the Hebrews... Well, that's what the Bibles says...


Posted by Cribby on Apr-25-2007 15:54:

I call dibs on ruler!


Posted by Jem_hadar on Apr-25-2007 23:57:

I love finding new planets! So exciting! Awesome discovery.


Posted by Cro_Addict on Apr-25-2007 23:59:

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar
I love finding new planets! So exciting! Awesome discovery.


oh really? what planets did you find??


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