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SIN question

Can staffing/employment agencies demand person's SIN number for so-called background check for clients they work for? Or is this illegal? I refused to provide an agency with my SIN number yesterday, and the agent's argument was that "she works for different clients and she needs to check people she sends over to them"..

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew Can staffing/employment agencies demand person's SIN number for so-called background check for clients they work for? Or is this illegal? I refused to provide an agency with my SIN number yesterday, and the agent's argument was that "she works for different clients and she needs to check people she sends over to them"..

i dunno about that...

i just know that once u start work or before you get hired at some place they ask for it to do a background check.

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict i dunno about that... i just know that once u start work or before you get hired at some place they ask for it to do a background check.

yeah that's fine, employer has a right to do that

I'm talking about 3-rd party employment agency.. I'm not sure how it works here, that's why I asked.. while I was waiting at the reception, the receptionist and one of the agents were looking over someone's personal details, and it seems they have a whole database of SIN's there!

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew yeah that's fine, employer has a right to do that I'm talking about 3-rd party employment agency.. I'm not sure how it works here, that's why I asked.. while I was waiting at the reception, the receptionist and one of the agents were looking over someone's personal details, and it seems they have a whole database of SIN's there!

i have been to tons of employment agencies, and noone of them asked for my SIN...but maybe some are different...

Hopefully someone here comes that know what they are talkin about...English Rachael most likely

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict i have been to tons of employment agencies, and noone of them asked for my SIN...but maybe some are different... Hopefully someone here comes that know what they are talkin about...English Rachael most likely

yeah I've been to 2 already, and neither of them asked me for it, while this agent claimed "she worked for other companies and it's a standard procedure for them"

yes, Rachel where are you

bump

I wouldn't put your SIN on a job application.

Just put "to be provided at interview" in the spot.

Your SIN shouldn't be given out to anybody who asks and it certainly shouldn't be put on a form that could go you know where.

To do a background check they may require your SIN - but they aren't going to do a background check until late in the interview process (probably just before giving you an offer). I'd say once an offer is near - giving your SIN for a background check shouldn't be a problem.

Just don't give it out to anybody who asks. Protect your SIN (like your PIN).

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker I wouldn't put your SIN on a job application. Just put "to be provided at interview" in the spot. Your SIN shouldn't be given out to anybody who asks and it certainly shouldn't be put on a form that could go you know where. To do a background check they may require your SIN - but they aren't going to do a background check until late in the interview process (probably just before giving you an offer). I'd say once an offer is near - giving your SIN for a background check shouldn't be a problem. Just don't give it out to anybody who asks. Protect your SIN (like your PIN).

thanks RJ

Sorry guys, mental today and I didn't notice.

Ok, here's the deal. When you COMMENCE TEMPORARY WORK for an employment agency, you have to give them your SIN details so that they can pay you.

Registration solely shouldn't mean you have to provide your SIN (and legally you don't have to) BUT your SIN shows your residence status and eligibility to work. My SIN starts with a 9 so that would automatically make someone ask me for my visa. Someone without a SIN isn't eligible to work here.

Basically, the agency is more than likely just wanting to check that you are eligible to work in this country - trust me, there is nothing worse than finding the perfect person for their dream job then realizing they require sponsorship.

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Originally posted by English Rachel Sorry guys, mental today and I didn't notice. Ok, here's the deal. When you COMMENCE TEMPORARY WORK for an employment agency, you have to give them your SIN details so that they can pay you. Registration solely shouldn't mean you have to provide your SIN (and legally you don't have to) BUT your SIN shows your residence status and eligibility to work. My SIN starts with a 9 so that would automatically make someone ask me for my visa. Someone without a SIN isn't eligible to work here. Basically, the agency is more than likely just wanting to check that you are eligible to work in this country - trust me, there is nothing worse than finding the perfect person for their dream job then realizing they require sponsorship.

thanks babes
I sent you a pm on Facebook

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Originally posted by English Rachel My SIN starts with a 9 so that would automatically make someone ask me for my visa. Someone without a SIN isn't eligible to work here.

You're busted now, Funky.

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Originally posted by English Rachel My SIN starts with a 9 so that would automatically make someone ask me for my visa.

mine starts with a 5, what does that mean?

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict mine starts with a 5, what does that mean?

Thanks means your good...

Mine starts w/ a 5 and I was born and raised on Canada...

the next two digits I believe are when you got it your SIN card...not the actual year, but i think it keeps going up year by year...or something like that

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict mine starts with a 5, what does that mean?

It means you're good.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker It means you're good.

ah...

but i wasnt born in Canada...hmmm

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Originally posted by Abercrombie You're busted now, Funky.

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict ah... but i wasnt born in Canada...hmmm

Are you a Canadian citizen?

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict ah... but i wasnt born in Canada...hmmm

But you must be a landed immigrant. I'm not. At least not just yet.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker Protect your SIN (like your PIN).

New Gov't of Canada slogan???

I say well done RJ!

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew

I didn't know you could work with a student visa, unless it's on campus (at least that's the way it was at Ottawa U)

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Originally posted by Abercrombie I didn't know you could work with a student visa, unless it's on campus (at least that's the way it was at Ottawa U)

1. since June'06 international students can work off-campus during the school yeah for up 20 hours and up to 40 hours during holidays
2. what's that to do what I asked? I just said I refused to provide them with my SIN number..

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Originally posted by English Rachel But you must be a landed immigrant. I'm not. At least not just yet.

Oh yeah i was a landed immigrant at the time that i got my SIN

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Originally posted by exstasie Are you a Canadian citizen?

now i am a citizen, well i have been since 2000.

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