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I played first time in bigger club on xone 92 and it wasnt that easy to get used to it. First I couldnt figure how to cue 2 tracks at once and guy who played before couldnt help me, because he didnt know (he had ableton live preformance).

The next thing were CDJs. I'm used to my Pioneer cdj 800 mk2, but those 800s in club seemed like much less sensitive than mine. When I move jog on my cds its totally different ratio. Moving jog (platter) on my cds for 2cms seemed like I had to move it for 1/4.

Thank god, after 20 minutes I got quite used to it..

Anyone has similar experience?

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When you a playing out (especially the first few times), even the smallest things will throw you off. Blame it on the nerves!

P.S. To cue 2 or more channels on the 92, uncue, press the channels you want to cue at the same time

P.P.S. The jog of the 800-MK2 was updated to be more in line with the 1000, you were probably on MK1's?

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Originally posted by nec I played first time in bigger club on xone 92 and it wasnt that easy to get used to it. First I couldnt figure how to cue 2 tracks at once and guy who played before couldnt help me, because he didnt know (he had ableton live preformance). The next thing were CDJs. I'm used to my Pioneer cdj 800 mk2, but those 800s in club seemed like much less sensitive than mine. When I move jog on my cds its totally different ratio. Moving jog (platter) on my cds for 2cms seemed like I had to move it for 1/4. Thank god, after 20 minutes I got quite used to it.. Anyone has similar experience?

No, both 800s were MK2s. But feeling wasnt the same.

Well that doesn't make any sense

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Originally posted by nec No, both 800s were MK2s. But feeling wasnt the same.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 Well that doesn't make any sense

It could be the difference between home and club use. I've experienced it before. Heck, even my 2 800 mk2s, both at home, have different feels on the jog wheels.

The Jogwheels probably feel different because they are used a lot more by many other people at clubs, for different reasons. If you mostly mix, your jogwheel probably wont get as much of a work out as it would if you were to scratch on it constantly, like a TT's platter.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 When you a playing out (especially the first few times), even the smallest things will throw you off. Blame it on the nerves!

VERY VERY VERY True. I remember when I used to get stage freight. Back then all we had was 1200's. So everytime I picked up the needle, I was so nervous, my hands would shake A LOT!

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 P.S. To cue 2 or more channels on the 92, uncue, press the channels you want to cue at the same time

yeah, but only after you've un-cued all channels why you need to do this on the xones is beyond me!

i hate the queing system on the xone's. that's my only gripe with the higher end A&H's.

welcome to the world of djing...

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Originally posted by DjWoody VERY VERY VERY True. I remember when I used to get stage freight. Back then all we had was 1200's. So everytime I picked up the needle, I was so nervous, my hands would shake A LOT!

i remember playing basketball my first time out too

i still get butterflies before a big gig, by the time i get behind the decks they're gone though

i like to get to the venue at the very least a half hour before my set, i like to take my time getting ready, get my cases out, have a couple drinks

then i usually go off by myself and get real quiet (almost serious looking i've been told), take in the crowd, get a feel for what the vibe is and collect my thoughts, think about some key tracks i'd like to play, probably have another drink or 2

then by the time i get onstage i'm always ready to go and rock it out

i'll have to remember to record my set next time

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue i hate the queing system on the xone's. that's my only gripe with the higher end A&H's.

I don't understand what the issue is TBH. You just select which channel you want to cue and then use the cue/mix knob - easy!

I've heard that the xone62 is a bit trickier as it hasn't got a cue/mix knob but the 92 has.

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Originally posted by agentdansmith I don't understand what the issue is TBH. You just select which channel you want to cue and then use the cue/mix knob - easy! I've heard that the xone62 is a bit trickier as it hasn't got a cue/mix knob but the 92 has.

because to cue two channels at the same time you need to un-select 1 channel (if already cued) and then press the two channels at the same time (and the level of precision needed here is a little more than i would expect) whereas every other mixer ive used, you just press any amount of channels you want and they all get added to your headphones.

basically i dont see the benefits of such a system?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN because to cue two channels at the same time you need to un-select 1 channel (if already cued) and then press the two channels at the same time (and the level of precision needed here is a little more than i would expect)

Er... no you don't. If you're having to press more than one button simultaneously on a Xone to cue then your mixer's probably knackered.

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Originally posted by Stu Cox Er... no you don't. If you're having to press more than one button simultaneously on a Xone to cue then your mixer's probably knackered.

Actually no, he's right.

On my Xone92 (only 4 weeks old) to cue 2 channels at the time, you have to press both cue buttons at the same time.

But... why would you want to do this when you can just cue one channel and then use the cue/mix knob to bring in the playing track?

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Originally posted by nec I played first time in bigger club on xone 92 and it wasnt that easy to get used to it. First I couldnt figure how to cue 2 tracks at once and guy who played before couldnt help me, because he didnt know (he had ableton live preformance). The next thing were CDJs. I'm used to my Pioneer cdj 800 mk2, but those 800s in club seemed like much less sensitive than mine. When I move jog on my cds its totally different ratio. Moving jog (platter) on my cds for 2cms seemed like I had to move it for 1/4. Thank god, after 20 minutes I got quite used to it.. Anyone has similar experience?

I just got a Xone about a week ago and it definitely takes a little getting used to. It's very good and very precise, but it is not very forgiving. I had used a friends a few times before and gotten the hang of it, but I definitely would not want to have been playing out at a club for my first time on one.

Ultimately, every different piece of equipment that you can get time on will ultimately prepare you for the day that you show up at a club that has something different from the norm. Definitely all part of being a DJ.

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Originally posted by agentdansmith Actually no, he's right. On my Xone92 (only 4 weeks old) to cue 2 channels at the time, you have to press both cue buttons at the same time. But... why would you want to do this when you can just cue one channel and then use the cue/mix knob to bring in the playing track?

Mixing 3+ sources maybe... Would be easier to have a pio style cue system.

yeah man...little differences can get worse...

....my set up at home used to be on a desk, so i would just pull my chair up, sit down and mix....then i started noticing that there is a difference between sitting down at the decks and STANDING with them (standing when playing in public).

now i never sit when mixing because i am a firm believer in "you should train the same way you fight"...

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN because to cue two channels at the same time you need to un-select 1 channel (if already cued) and then press the two channels at the same time (and the level of precision needed here is a little more than i would expect) whereas every other mixer ive used, you just press any amount of channels you want and they all get added to your headphones. basically i dont see the benefits of such a system?

That's xone 32.

On 62, you press whatever channels you want to add to cue and it gets add on

The classic is turning up with the mixer already in red. And then being told the monitor is out.

Gotta love that.

Oh and the fuck tard befor you has already taken the pitch through the roof.

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Originally posted by agentdansmith Actually no, he's right. On my Xone92 (only 4 weeks old) to cue 2 channels at the time, you have to press both cue buttons at the same time. But... why would you want to do this when you can just cue one channel and then use the cue/mix knob to bring in the playing track?

Really? I'll admit I haven't used a 92 for a while but when I used one last I didn't notice that, I'll take you word for it though. I've used 62s and 464s pretty extensively so I probably just assumed that it wouldn't be any worse, particularly seeing that they managed to fix so many problems between the 62 and the 92.

And yeah, most of the time the cue/mix knob will suffice, but as soon as you start bringing in an extra source you'll want to be able to listen to every possible 'pair' of tracks (e.g. 1 & 2, 2 & 3 then 1 & 3) to make sure they're all in time... gets a bit tricky without a very good cueing system, but at least you've got the functionality to listen to any two channels at once on the 92 anyway if you need to.

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