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Posted by Nicolas Oliver on May-03-2007 22:36:

Rasta Legality of the upcoming Marijuana March

So, as well all know the 9th annual Global Marijuana March is taking place this Sat @ Queens Park (*see main thread). I simply wanted to ask those of you who have attended this event about your previous experiences. I understand that not one criminal charge has ever been laid during one of these events (cannabisweek.ca) but can someone give me a sense of how the police act? Considering that i) possession and trafficking of cannabis is illegal, ii) the Conservatives (re: hard line on drugs) are in power, and iii) upwards of 20,000 will be violating our country's drug laws, I'd expect that the police won't be conducting themselves with the kindest of dispositions--or is it the exact opposite, i.e., are the police easy-going? Are vehicles searched? Are there police all over watching for buying/selling? Etc etc. Also, will there be media coverage? Will any politicians or other authoritative figures be present? Drug-wise, is there anything one really ought to avoid doing in order to prevent unwanted police harassment?

Thanks for any relevant info.

BTW, I can't wait for the 4-20 sparking: thousands of ppl blazing at the same time sounds like good times indeed.


Posted by chinamon on May-03-2007 22:44:

well, based on last year's event, the cops kept to themselves. they let people do their thing. i think they were only there for crowd control (ie if a fight breaks out). tons of people were smoking doobs next to cops and nothing happend.


Posted by Halycon on May-04-2007 01:50:

the cops are mainly there for crowd controll purposes, and to assist in the case of an emergency.

and i guess to look out for traficing, and underaged drinking.


Posted by chinamon on May-04-2007 02:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Halycon
the cops are mainly there for crowd controll purposes, and to assist in the case of an emergency.

and i guess to look out for traficing, and underaged drinking.


or any drinking for that matter since its public property.


Posted by sensorika on May-04-2007 02:36:

Dude non trafficking cannabis crimes have not been actively prosecuted for a looooooonnnnnng time. where have u been living?


Posted by Oreo_The_Cookie on May-04-2007 03:17:

From what I understand as long as you're not buying or selling you have nothing to worry about.


Posted by above'N'beyond on May-04-2007 04:07:

Dude it is absolutely liberating. The cops totally keep to themselves, in fact it is hard to even see them through the clouds of delicious smoke. But seriously, they barely even make a presence. The only time they are really seen is during the parade, where they line the streets and watch and laugh as thousands blow smoke in their faces. I made small talk with cops while smoking a half-quarter blunt. People literally walking down the street with 6' tall bongs !!!

During the day there are thousands just chilling in queens park, smoking, frisbee, hakysack etc....


All I have to say is God Bless Canada!


Posted by Jem_hadar on May-04-2007 04:33:

quote:
Originally posted by above'N'beyond
hakysack etc....




I miss this! Hackeysacking while stoned would be SO GREAT to do again!


Posted by lounger540 on May-04-2007 06:14:

I saw a story about a chick that was pissed you couldn't walk around topless in Miami, like during bike week. SO she had a topless march in protest and was arrested. The courts found even though being topless was illegal, they could do it in the at a non-violent protest legally as protected under free speech.

Now of course this has no merit on Canadian law, but I wonder if the same applies? Is smoking a joint during a rally an act of free speech?


Posted by nusty on May-04-2007 06:37:

quote:
Originally posted by lounger540
I saw a story about a chick that was pissed you couldn't walk around topless in Miami, like during bike week. SO she had a topless march in protest and was arrested. The courts found even though being topless was illegal, they could do it in the at a non-violent protest legally as protected under free speech.

Now of course this has no merit on Canadian law, but I wonder if the same applies? Is smoking a joint during a rally an act of free speech?


first of all, in Canada women can walk around topless legally.
Second of all, the Sticky Icky has been practically (if not entirely, I'm not sure) decriminalized for minor possession. They don't lay charges for small quantities the rest of the year and sure as hell even more unlikely to get one this week for personal possession. Selling is obviously another issue.
Your question is really a mute point. Sure it can be free speech if you want it to be.


Posted by lounger540 on May-04-2007 06:49:

quote:
Originally posted by nusty
first of all, in Canada women can walk around topless legally.

Err, yeah which is why I said in Miami. It was a story of example, not a mute point.
And secondly, no, it's still illegal even if they are liberal in enforcing it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_...cannabis#Canada


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on May-04-2007 06:58:

quote:
Originally posted by sensorika
Dude non trafficking cannabis crimes have not been actively prosecuted for a looooooonnnnnng time. where have u been living?


Fact: the vast majority of all drug-related offences in Canada each year are cannabis-related; and the vast majority of the latter offences are for personal possession.

quote:
Originally posted by sensorika
where have u been living?


In Mississauga, studying issues like these @ UofT (downtown) for the past three years as part of my criminology major.

quote:
Originally posted by nusty
first of all, in Canada women can walk around topless legally.


This is a common misconception: it is NOT the case that women are legally permitted to walk around topless in Canada. Rather, in the 'landmark' decision which is frequently misrepresented as equating to the legalization of female toplessness in this country, the judge ruled that the specific charge against the woman could not produce a conviction b/c the judge concluded that the community standard of tolerance test, when applied to her particular community, would insist that such a nude act would not offend the community's standards. This means that another judge in another community can indeed convict someone for toplessness if the former concludes that the latter's community would not tolerate such behaviour.

quote:
Originally posted by nusty Second of all, the Sticky Icky has been practically (if not entirely, I'm not sure) decriminalized for minor possession. They don't lay charges for small quantities the rest of the year and sure as hell even more unlikely to get one this week for personal possession. Selling is obviously another issue.


Possession of marijuana has, in no sense of the word, been decriminalized in Canada. According to the letter of the law and law enforcement's willingness to lay charges for possession, having cannabis on your person or in your residence is illegal. Conditional discharges and probation--if I recall correctly--are the typical dispositions handed out upon conviction.

quote:
Originally posted by nusty
Your question is really a mute point. Sure it can be free speech if you want it to be.


The GMM is not concerned with free expression; rather, it is arguably protected by S.2 of the Charter pertaining to freedom of association.


Posted by Pett on May-04-2007 08:12:

quote:
Originally posted by cenik
Fact:


lol, thanks dwight


Posted by TheVrk on May-04-2007 08:14:

quote:
Originally posted by above'N'beyond
But seriously, they barely even make a presence. The only time they are really seen is during the parade, where they line the streets and watch and laugh as thousands blow smoke in their faces. I made small talk with cops while smoking a half-quarter blunt.


All I have to say is God Bless Canada!


Ya police dont care at all...had a small convo with a few cops myself,
they even asked me if it was good weed!

LOOOOOVE Canada


Posted by darouge11 on May-04-2007 11:34:

i diddnt think i woould attend this, but after reading some of the stuff here, i think i just might


Posted by TheVrk on May-04-2007 12:22:

quote:
Originally posted by darouge11
i diddnt think i woould attend this, but after reading some of the stuff here, i think i just might

If you've got nothing to do, and you smoke weed, you should


Posted by Jem_hadar on May-04-2007 13:21:

quote:
Originally posted by cenik
This is a common misconception: it is NOT the case that women are legally permitted to walk around topless in Canada.


WHAT A FUCKING BUMMER TO LEARN.

Jesus, this news just spoiled my day to find out


Well, I'm glad that the "communities" of Collingwood, Wasaga Beach and the surrounding areas here all dont find it to be against their "nude standards", bc I quite enjoy seeing topless chicks when I head down to Wasaga Beach in the summertime.

OKay, back to weed talk ppl C'est tout.



(STILL think its complete BS though.... if men can walk around topless fucking women should be able to too. Equality. Sharmota!)


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on May-04-2007 13:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Pett
lol, thanks dwight


Haha, I thought someone would catch this


Posted by sensorika on May-04-2007 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by cenik
Fact: the vast majority of all drug-related offences in Canada each year are cannabis-related; and the vast majority of the latter offences are for personal possession.

Possession of marijuana has, in no sense of the word, been decriminalized in Canada. According to the letter of the law and law enforcement's willingness to lay charges for possession, having cannabis on your person or in your residence is illegal. Conditional discharges and probation--if I recall correctly--are the typical dispositions handed out upon conviction.


ok what i said is still true- the police do not actively prosecute cannabis crimes for non trafficking. im not refering to the technicalities of the law and decriminilization. What i mean is that the police do not make it a priority to actively engage in prosecuting marijuana offences. They adhere to the law to where they have to its thier job but they dont care about possesion of a small amount of marijuana and do not want to use resources for this because its a waste of thier time.

Especially the RCMP. someone i know got busted for growing marijuana, he had like 40 plants and the rcmp told him it was a waste of time to aresst him. The only reason the police care about marijuana is when its involved with other crimes. So if people are getting arrested in regards to cannabis it usually because they are doing something stupid like driving while stoned. ok ill give u another example. just a few months ago two of the many potheads in my area where arrested for possesion, they were chaught smoking in the park. what happened, they were arrested taken to the station and then let go a few hours later. no charges, no prosecution, nothing other then taking down thier names.

You can talk about the law all day, but the reality of the world we live in is different. the fact is many people use marijuana and the police do not want to arrest everyone for possesion if they dont have to.

Your studying criminology right. isnt there something in regards to the law about how the law has to reflect society or something like that, well we are witnessing this first hand. The laws for cannabis do not reflect our society. many people use marijuana its the most popular recreational drug other then alcohol and its still illegal so it has to adapt to change and our current society. its interesting to see because if they change the marijuana laws its a step forward to consider adjusting other drug laws.



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