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Posted by Banelord on May-07-2007 13:06:

Question Do friends let friends become drug addictes?

I going to confront my friend soon. I was thinking all weekend that maybe he has a real drug addiction. The use of hard drugs once in a blue moon to make a party more intense is one thing. But using at home for no reason other then the fact that you are bored is another. I told him about a party that had no drugs and was great, he did not want to listen. I wonder if I should just be brutally honest about it? Or do it in a tasteful way. I know that people do not listen when you tell them something, and the best way to find out is to out thought it. Maybe I should let nature run it course, and one day he will wake up and say " WTF is my life about".


Posted by zokissima on May-07-2007 13:27:

That's a dillema. If you think your friend really has a problem, you should try to at least approach them in a non-confrontative way. People aren't usually very receptive to criticism, so be careful what you say and how you say it.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on May-07-2007 15:25:

You can just start selling him the drugs, and regulate his supply that way. Plus you'd make a hefty profit off of your friend's problem.


Posted by Cribby on May-07-2007 15:56:

Sometimes it's inevitable. I've been bickering, bitching, and making suggestions, but it just goes out the other ear for most of my friends..


Posted by Arsalan on May-07-2007 16:24:

me and my good buddie had this friend with a real serious problem

we tied him for a couple of days and beat the shit out of him and to this day he still thanks us

so go figure..


and there are other cases where they go to rehab, I don't think rehab is the solutions

I heard stories from a person that was in rehab and she told me she could anything she wanted from the people that worked there... they just had to pay more then the street value.

if its someone you care about then you should watch over them all the time like we did with my buddie

to be honest he was a fucking mess for a week, tied to a bed...


Posted by PurpleHaze on May-07-2007 16:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Arsalan
I heard stories from a person that was in rehab and she told me she could anything she wanted from the people that worked there... they just had to pay more then the street value.

Wow thats fucking low....really pathetic!

Unfortunately for a lot of 'addicts' they won't realize what kind of mess they're in untill they hit absolute ROCK BOTTOM....and for some, rock bottom is almost life threatening situation.

Hopefully your friend is consciencious enough to understand his problems and can find the courage in himself to find a way to overcome his addictions.


Posted by me@t k@tie on May-07-2007 16:58:

Addicts*


Posted by yankeeBaby on May-07-2007 17:00:

I have had both addict friends AND worked in an outpatient substance abuse center as a therapist to women with addictions.

See how he feels about his use first. addicts will NEVER change unless they can admit they have a problem, and forcing the idea on them will make them resent you and isolate his drug use further. Start with that, and NEVER be pusshy.

Interventions and forceful tactics come later.... after the peaceful talks.


Posted by SPANIARD on May-07-2007 17:04:

I always run in to this topic and my answer is always the same. Everyone has different reactions to drugs; some get addicted, some have it as part of their alter ego that parties on the weekend or whenever they have time. Excess may not always be the best stat to analyze someone's relationship with their drug(s) of choice. It's always better to analyze their decision making, how it effects (change) their everyday routine and really how much of a difference you can tell in their personality.

Education is the key to everything. If your morals say something is bad but you really don't know why, open up a book. Many of my friends have drug problems, so what I would do is just talk to them and ask them how they really feel at work or school and how they feel about different topics to see how their problem is reflected in their opinions. Sure, you can force them to do whatever they want but remember your taking the chance of them jumping on your back too. The best way to go about it is to hear that person(s) say it for themselves. That they notice how it has effected them because hopefully it will trigger initiative to change.


Posted by oldschool420 on May-07-2007 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Arsalan

we tied him for a couple of days and beat the shit out of him and to this day he still thanks us



If my friend(s) did this to me,it would not end nicely after they untied. That is a retarded way to help people deal with a drug problem and I doubt it would work on that many people.

As some have said, unless the person knows they have a problem, they won't change. It's not like a lot of people aren't aware they are doing the drugs, most know exactly what they are doing(not that it is right). You just have to express your concern with your friend without attacking them,and just try and be therefor them when they do decide to change their ways.


Posted by Cribby on May-07-2007 18:01:

quote:
Originally posted by PurpleHaze
until they hit absolute ROCK BOTTOM....and for some, rock bottom is almost life threatening situation.


Sometimes even that's not enough for them


Posted by E2EK1EL on May-07-2007 18:06:

best thing you should do ....


tell you friend your concern and suggest him to take it easy or quit his shit.

after that, it's all upto him or her, and there's nothing else you can really do.

Good w/ this, I've been through it many times.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on May-07-2007 18:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Cribby
Sometimes even that's not enough for them


That's because it's hard to define what "rock bottom" is. For some people rock bottom is smoking a j every day. for others, it's a lot lower.

Not to mention the "you only get better after you hit rock bottom" is a clever way of stating the really obvious, kinda like "it's always darkest before it turns light", or "you find something you lost in the last place you look". Duh.


Posted by Banelord on May-07-2007 18:08:

The thing is he keeps on getting into harder drugs, first it was E, then doing E for no reason at all. The K, then Meth, that was harsh, Blow came next, What after this?


Posted by Cosmic Fur on May-07-2007 18:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Banelord
The thing is he keeps on getting into harder drugs, first it was E, then doing E for no reason at all. The K, then Meth, that was harsh, Blow came next, What after this?


heroin


Posted by Cro_Addict on May-07-2007 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Banelord
The thing is he keeps on getting into harder drugs, first it was E, then doing E for no reason at all. The K, then Meth, that was harsh, Blow came next, What after this?


probably heroin

angel dust is pretty bad


Posted by Cosmic Fur on May-07-2007 18:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Cro_Addict
angel dust is pretty bad


"White people love Wayne Brady because he makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X"


Posted by chinamon on May-07-2007 18:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Banelord
The thing is he keeps on getting into harder drugs, first it was E, then doing E for no reason at all. The K, then Meth, that was harsh, Blow came next, What after this?


after blow will be freebase.
freebase will be good for a short period of time until he realizes he can use crack for much cheaper.


Posted by jchung52 on May-07-2007 18:29:

intervention


Posted by yankeeBaby on May-07-2007 19:14:

quote:
Originally posted by jchung52
intervention


^^no way! Intervention before talking to your friend first personally is WAY overkill and will make him isolate away from the people trying to get him to stop. Its like shooting someone before you even tell him what you are shooting him for: the point is not made.

Plus, and intervention implies that you went to everyone else about his business before you even went to him. Thats not what a good friend will do.

You have to give people the chance to make the decisions on their own AND give them a chance to analyze their own behavior. Sometimes it will happen, sometimes it wont, and when it doesnt THEN intervene on a more forceful level.


Posted by Cuzo on May-07-2007 19:18:

hugs


Posted by Jem_hadar on May-07-2007 19:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Cuzo
hugs


but NOT e-hugs!


Posted by Vivid Boy on May-07-2007 20:25:

i think u should kidnap him tie him up and between up for a week, i personally think this is a great idea and should be used for more things then just drug abuse.


Posted by MKpacha on May-07-2007 20:49:

something that i know works for some is having other things provided... such as other things to do, going to see a movie, or out to dinner, a day at the park, a movie night with a group of friends, a big bbq with beers at a cottage. Its funny how quickly one becomes lost in the world of partying. Providing your friend with another party sans drugs to go to is not the answer... hes just going to be bored and wonder where the drugs are. It seems for your friend the drugs have be come an association with that situation. In the end though, the only person who can help your friend is them self.


Posted by DannyPINK on May-07-2007 21:01:

It really depends on how much self control your friend has, because E, K, and G are one thing... But when drugs like Coke get involved people start to lose their sense of control.

You pop a pill and your good for a couple hours... You do a bump of K you're good for 45-1hour... you do a half-cap or a cap you're good for as long as u wanna be good.

You do blow you're high for 15 minutes then you want more... then after you get more, you still want more. After a few consecutive months of this you start to crave it and you'll do anything to get it. You become a sketchbag. It ruins lives and friendships. I've seen it happen and I've heard too many stories of it happening to other people.

Unfortunately all you really can do is talk to your friend(s). You can let them know how you feel about their usage, but you can't force them to stop doing anything. I've tried to help my friends, and gained some serious ground only to find them going back to their same habits. It hurts but people are doomed to fail at times. The best thing you can do is just be there for them when they do come around.


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