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Posted by Blake613 on May-07-2007 15:22:

CRT is to Dot Pitch as LCD is to ???

I have a client that does CAD work and has requested a "sharp" 21" LCD panel. Will a 21" @ 1280 be sufficient or is there measurement that I should be looking for when shopping for a LCD?


Posted by gehzumteufel on May-07-2007 15:23:

Re: CRT is to Dot Pitch as LCD is to ???

quote:
Originally posted by Blake613
I have a client that does CAD work and has requested a "sharp" 21" LCD panel. Will a 21" @ 1280 be sufficient or is there measurement that I should be looking for when shopping or a LCD?

widescreen or no?


Posted by Blake613 on May-07-2007 15:25:

I think they will want a regular old square monitor.


Posted by Zeiter on May-07-2007 15:27:

well,

You should provide your client with a high contrast ratio lcd screen, fast ms <8, and a color calibrator hardware-software. If I were your client, I would buy something 24'', IPS-S panel preferably since its the lcd panel that reproduces the best colors..

23'' apple displays are good..expensive but very good!


Posted by gehzumteufel on May-07-2007 15:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Blake613
I think they will want a regular old square monitor.

well then why the fuck would 1280x1024 be good on a 21" monitor? who cares if its LCD or CRT. 1280x1024 is SHIT for a 21" monitor. especially if an old sony trinitron 15" can do that natively. just think about the resolution relative to the size. let me see if i can find the monitors i used to drool over. they are really good and sharp and high res.


Posted by gehzumteufel on May-07-2007 15:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Zeiter
well,

You should provide your client with a high contrast ratio lcd screen, fast ms <8, and a color calibrator hardware-software. If I were your client, I would buy something 24'', IPS-S panel preferably since its the lcd panel that reproduces the best colors..

23'' apple displays are good..expensive but very good!

amen to the apple displays.

IPS-S? never heard of that. gonna go research it now.

anyways here is a good monitor.

http://www.samsung.com/ca/products/...=Specifications


Posted by MrSquirrel on May-07-2007 15:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Zeiter
well,

You should provide your client with a high contrast ratio lcd screen, fast ms <8, and a color calibrator hardware-software. If I were your client, I would buy something 24'', IPS-S panel preferably since its the lcd panel that reproduces the best colors..

23'' apple displays are good..expensive but very good!


For a CAD draftsman, color calibration is almost without fail a waste of money. As long as the colors show up as the colors they expect on the screen, they could care less if they print out a perfect pantone representation. Most times when they are printing they end up printing out lines in different colors than they show up on the screen anyway.

As for what you want to get screen size wise, for CAD, widescreen is usually not that much better than a standard 4:3 shape.

CAD draftsmen want a large screen that does higher resolutions (they want to see as much of the drawing on the screen as possible) but does not have distorions. Something that does not have a lot of glare is also a good bet.


MrS


Posted by gehzumteufel on May-07-2007 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by MrSquirrel
For a CAD draftsman, color calibration is almost without fail a waste of money. As long as the colors show up as the colors they expect on the screen, they could care less if they print out a perfect pantone representation. Most times when they are printing they end up printing out lines in different colors than they show up on the screen anyway.

As for what you want to get screen size wise, for CAD, widescreen is usually not that much better than a standard 4:3 shape.

CAD draftsmen want a large screen that does higher resolutions (they want to see as much of the drawing on the screen as possible) but does not have distorions. Something that does not have a lot of glare is also a good bet.


MrS

sounds like your in cad?

i totally agree though with the colors. doesnt matter raelly just as long as high resolution. i know when i took drafting in HS it was much easier with the larger monitors.


Posted by gehzumteufel on May-07-2007 15:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Zeiter
well,

You should provide your client with a high contrast ratio lcd screen, fast ms <8, and a color calibrator hardware-software. If I were your client, I would buy something 24'', IPS-S panel preferably since its the lcd panel that reproduces the best colors..

23'' apple displays are good..expensive but very good!

just a correction for yourself its S-IPS


Posted by LeopoldStotch on May-07-2007 15:39:

i have noticed that as newer lcd monitors come out, the dot pitch specs usually aren't specified, as the contrast ratio is more stressed. i guess the contrast is more important than the dot pitch numbers? well for large monitors, i think the average dot pitch lays around .25 to .27 and the contrast ratio falls around 600 to 800 : 1. if it is 600, then i consider it an average affordable type of monitor.

and btw, widescreen ftw. think about the "hypotenuse" and "base" between a square and rectangle.


Posted by MrSquirrel on May-07-2007 15:47:

quote:
Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
and btw, widescreen ftw. think about the "hypotenuse" and "base" between a square and rectangle.



Widescreens in CAD lead to a lot of unecessary in/out zooms and up/down scrolling.

When you are trying to see as much of the drawing as possible with the most detail, having a tighter aspect ratio is usually better as most of what you would likely be drafting is not twice as wide as it is tall, not to mention you almost always lose more screen real estate on the top and bottom margins than on the sides in drafting programs.

MrS


Posted by gehzumteufel on May-07-2007 15:48:

quote:
Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
i have noticed that as newer lcd monitors come out, the dot pitch specs usually aren't specified, as the contrast ratio is more stressed. i guess the contrast is more important than the dot pitch numbers? well for large monitors, i think the average dot pitch lays around .25 to .27 and the contrast ratio falls around 600 to 800 : 1. if it is 600, then i consider it an average affordable type of monitor.

and btw, widescreen ftw. think about the "hypotenuse" and "base" between a square and rectangle.

for cad widescreen isnt as big a deal as people think. and to be honest, for computing, i prefer a 4:3 pulldown monitor. a 17" widescreen doesnt have as much realestate as a 17" 4:3 screen.

also pitch is preferred to be at .22 for a 21"... .27 is almost as bad as my monitor i had back in 93. that was .30 and it was a 14".


Posted by mid0l on May-07-2007 15:51:

Hot bitch?


Posted by MrSquirrel on May-07-2007 16:09:

http://discussion.autodesk.com/sear....x=0&search.y=0

Check out some of those threads, you might get a good recommendation of a brand/model to buy.

(I personally like the samsung monitors, but have not yet had the chance to see how well they handle CAD, and they are relatively cheap.)

MrS


Posted by Marc Summers on May-07-2007 16:31:

all I see are a bunch of acronyms and measurements... I have no idea what this thread is about.


Posted by mid0l on May-07-2007 16:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
all I see are a bunch of acronyms and measurements... I have no idea what this thread is about.


The main thing you need to know is that girls only like monitors with a .27 dot pitch or higher. NARF!


Posted by Trancealot on May-07-2007 17:31:

me being a Mechanical Engineer I work with CAD all the time. I don't care about the screen size and pixles. All I care about it having

1. enough ram (1-2 gig's)
2. Good graphics card
3. CAD Program I use does not freeze doing simple task?? I will never understand why this happens like saving, moving mouse, hitting the return button.


Posted by gehzumteufel on May-07-2007 18:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancealot
me being a Mechanical Engineer I work with CAD all the time. I don't care about the screen size and pixles. All I care about it having

1. enough ram (1-2 gig's)
2. Good graphics card
3. CAD Program I use does not freeze doing simple task?? I will never understand why this happens like saving, moving mouse, hitting the return button.

this has to do with the nature of IDE/xATA drives. they can only do a single task whereas SCSI can do multiple.



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