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What is something unique you can do when you are mixing out of the last track that the DJ before you has just played? What kind of effects, or techniques have you used to make things a bit more interesting than just simply mixing out?

I will be playing trance in the 138 range and the DJ before me will be playing electro house in the 130-132.

I am wondering what are some things that can be done to smooth the gap? The club I am playing is very very well known and will be packed.


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LOOP + DELAY + BRINGING THE BASS IN & OUT = WIN

That had to be in caps.. I duno why

i liked what i saw roog do onnce, he threw an acapella.. and faded slowly out of a track .. not to impress but so that the crowd could give it up for morillo... after a round of clapping, and right on time with the acapella he brought in the beat. needles to say it was very nice.

yeh if its a nice vocal track i would loop a ctchy part of the vocals, than cut it a couple of times, drop a jet effect and drop a straight face bass or just build one up, it depends, its all about being creative, i try to do something diff everytime i get a chance to dj.

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most of the time, the first track i chose to play has a good intro. some nice lush pads or such, which is why i wouldn't like mixing it with the last track of the previous dj.

I usually let the last track end, and start fresh. Its good to give closure to the set before you, and to let the crowd know that a new DJ is playing.

I've heard a couple of "turntable powering down" [Zip] effects used well between mixes.

slowly fade the volume down over about 30 seconds... wait in silence for five seconds. smile at the crowd.. then slap your first tune on. the silence really works wonders for the crowd

Now you see I think generally you should only fade the last track out and start a fresh if you've got some kind of special intro, or you're a fucking huge headliner or something. In London it's really common for DJs to only get 1 hour sets and I've seen nights where every single DJ stopped the previous track before starting their own - it breaks up the flow, which is fine a couple of times in the night but if everyone does it the crowd just get bored of it.

Particularly if you just stop/fade out the previous track then start from the start of a tune with a bog standard intro (i.e. 3 minutes of perc building up to bassline etc before anything actually happens), everyone will just think "right, got 5 mins before anything interesting's gonna happen" so they go to the bar - I've seen it happen so many times.

I think it's really important to grab people's attention at the start of a set, in a similar way to a demo. Personally I normally do a relatively late and quite sharp mix into an interesting loop of some kind (normally pads/minimal synths for a trance set, percussion for a techno set but sometimes I'll use a perc loop for trance), then build up from there, throwing in some more loops or whatever before dropping into the first big tune.

Once again Stu tells it like it is. I've seen this many times in London, standing on the crowd side of the booth I hasten to add. It must be really disheartening to watch everyone turn around and walk away. Mix - you're a DJ!

Jarv

I will be playing trance in the 138 range and the DJ before me will be playing electro house in the 130-132.

I am wondering what are some things that can be done to smooth the gap?

yeah i would definitely say mix in and start off with a bang that will get everyone dancing their asses off and thinking, man this guy is so much better than the last

You could slowly apply a filter to the departing DJs track to gradually cut out the lows or crank up the highs or similar, as you bring in your own track. I saw someone do this on a Xone:32 using that automated VCO thing most of the A&H mixers have, it was slick.

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Originally posted by tvmann You could slowly apply a filter to the departing DJs track to gradually cut out the lows or crank up the highs or similar, as you bring in your own track. I saw someone do this on a Xone:32 using that automated VCO thing most of the A&H mixers have, it was slick.

how do you allow for the bpm differences between electro house and trance though?

what exactly is a filter? I'll be using a djm-800 which I have never touched before. I have a djm-400 and I have played on a 600 before as well.

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Originally posted by xstalkrx how do you allow for the bpm differences between electro house and trance though? what exactly is a filter? I'll be using a djm-800 which I have never touched before. I have a djm-400 and I have played on a 600 before as well.

Oh I didn't notice the BPM difference house 131-ish to your trance 138. Well you could use a starting trance track that has a beatless intro that might have vocals or a synth and you could start it at its normal tempo (not beatmatched) when the outro of the last DJs house track starts. The BPM difference would not be very noticeable during the transition even though they are not beatmatched.

Or you could look for a starter trance track that is not so far above the house, say 134, slow it to 130 to transition from the house 131, slowly raise it to about 135, and mix in your next track, which you then slowly raise to its natural 138 BPM.

Best not to use any special mixer features like filters until you can practice with the one they have.

Dont do nothing just let the track playout.And then do the "Jesus" pose and start ur set with a wicked track.

^haha yeah seriously that would be sick

grab the mic and go
"mic check mic check one two .. po po po po ( fade )"

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Originally posted by superglo grab the mic and go "mic check mic check one two .. po po po po ( fade )"

No, for god sake don't lol

I see all the literature recomending young guys playing out to stop and start a new track but to be honest I hardly ever do this. Now that I play CDs these days I don't have an excuse for not having the records to follow DJs that play slower BPMs.

Personally I don't like the pause in the sets on the dance floor, don't like it as a clubber and don't like it as a DJ. The only time I will stop a record is if someone has played an absolute blistering set before me and I feel they need to be recognised for this. But then I also know that my first track can't just be beats, it has to make sense with what was played out, and it has to make a statement about me as a DJ.

Best of all though, I like to start my sets with something funky and bouncy that changes the mood a little so that people notice that there is a new DJ in the house.

I think lot of it boils down to confidence, and I actually disagree with what a lot of the literature says about letting tracks play out. I think there is something magical with being able to announce your arrival in other ways. It does involve reading the crowd and trying to work out what they are missing.

What I look for in a track to follow... It has to be well produced, tight drum programming and has to have a natural groove that just makes people want to move, the latter is totally dependant on the night and indeed the crowd.
I make it a key change so I take it up a notch just by doing that.

By watching the other DJ and the crowd reactions you will get an idea of where they want to be taken and the possibilities you have to work with.

Following on from Alliednations how to finish a night thread, letting a record play out is actually a bad idea as you may loose some people, as it can be a perfect que for the lightweights to leave.

For me it's more about being able to provide a natural link from the previous set and take it to the next level.

Cheers
Nem

once to start my set I left playing the track of the other DJ...and beatmatched crazy frogs ding ding into it...then used some froggy noises to mix to mix into Fuzzion's Frog on the run lol


I mean...the thing was that the other DJ bursted laughing...and suddenly the whole crowd was totally fucked up...smiling and dancing their asses off...

This doesn't work always though...prepare for rotten eggs etc

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 No, for god sake don't lol I see all the literature recomending young guys playing out to stop and start a new track but to be honest I hardly ever do this. Now that I play CDs these days I don't have an excuse for not having the records to follow DJs that play slower BPMs. Personally I don't like the pause in the sets on the dance floor, don't like it as a clubber and don't like it as a DJ. The only time I will stop a record is if someone has played an absolute blistering set before me and I feel they need to be recognised for this. But then I also know that my first track can't just be beats, it has to make sense with what was played out, and it has to make a statement about me as a DJ. Best of all though, I like to start my sets with something funky and bouncy that changes the mood a little so that people notice that there is a new DJ in the house. I think lot of it boils down to confidence, and I actually disagree with what a lot of the literature says about letting tracks play out. I think there is something magical with being able to announce your arrival in other ways. It does involve reading the crowd and trying to work out what they are missing. What I look for in a track to follow... It has to be well produced, tight drum programming and has to have a natural groove that just makes people want to move, the latter is totally dependant on the night and indeed the crowd. I make it a key change so I take it up a notch just by doing that. By watching the other DJ and the crowd reactions you will get an idea of where they want to be taken and the possibilities you have to work with. Following on from Alliednations how to finish a night thread, letting a record play out is actually a bad idea as you may loose some people, as it can be a perfect que for the lightweights to leave. For me it's more about being able to provide a natural link from the previous set and take it to the next level. Cheers Nem

spot on.

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