Removing vocals from an audio track?

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Posted by eXo on May-10-2007 23:43:

Removing vocals from an audio track?

Ok, so I've googled to my hearts content, and figured someone might know better what I'm looking for.

Everything I come up with is how to drown out the vocals in a song, which is pretty easy.

What I'm curious is, say I were to make a trance remix of some song with female vocals, is there a way to pull the vocals off of some certain frequency without catching much or any of the music in the background?

Posted by tyos on May-10-2007 23:48:

I don't think so Tim

Posted by eXo on May-10-2007 23:50:

lawl, no seriously, is there no way?

Posted by Muhcow on May-10-2007 23:57:

well, there is no way, because a song as you listen to it, got a frequenz that is played, out of a wave-specrtroscop.

you can not change a single frequency in it, as it is overlapped and a result already.

if you had the original build and programm of the song, you could just kick it out, but .. there is no other way.

vocals are just like any other sounds: frequencies, and you can not kill them out, without killing the song at this place :-)

all you can do is lower the frequencies of the vocals. but you can not kill it...

Posted by eXo on May-10-2007 23:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Muhcow
well, there is no way, because a song as you listen to it, got a frequenz that is played, out of a wave-specrtroscop.

you can not change a single frequency in it, as it is overlapped and a result already.

if you had the original build and programm of the song, you could just kick it out, but .. there is no other way.

vocals are just like any other sounds: frequencies, and you can not kill them out, without killing the song at this place :-)

all you can do is lower the frequencies of the vocals. but you can not kill it...

I understand that, that wasn't my question.

Posted by Freak on May-11-2007 00:45:

Contrary to popular myth on here (and I am sure some fucktard nob will attempt to flame me for it) you can.
If you really know what you are doing and you have a wav/cd copy of both the full AND the instrumental version (mp3 or one that has been mp3 at any point will NOT work due to the lossy compression) then you can.
Need to play them together, and invert the phase of one and get it basically lined up almost to the sample (thats 44,100 samples so its needs to be pretty fucking accurate).
It can work exceptionally well in some cases, and poorly in others but it can work if you know how. You may even need to chop bits about and do sections at a time instead of the whole track.
Its not easy, and its not a simple 'push a button' fix like most people nowadays seem to like, but hey its more skills to your bow.

Danny is an established producer and knows his shit- take a read.
http://forum.defected.com/viewtopic.php?t=26246

Posted by sterilis on May-11-2007 00:57:

Posted by bas on May-11-2007 01:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
Contrary to popular myth on here (and I am sure some fucktard nob will attempt to flame me for it) you can.
If you really know what you are doing and you have a wav/cd copy of both the full AND the instrumental version (mp3 or one that has been mp3 at any point will NOT work due to the lossy compression) then you can.
Need to play them together, and invert the phase of one and get it basically lined up almost to the sample (thats 44,100 samples so its needs to be pretty fucking accurate).
It can work exceptionally well in some cases, and poorly in others but it can work if you know how. You may even need to chop bits about and do sections at a time instead of the whole track.
Its not easy, and its not a simple 'push a button' fix like most people nowadays seem to like, but hey its more skills to your bow.

Danny is an established producer and knows his shit- take a read.
http://forum.defected.com/viewtopic.php?t=26246

If you had the instrumental and the vocal then what would be the point of wanting to take the vocal out?

Posted by Marc Summers on May-11-2007 01:31:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...2&forumid=48&s=

there is something in there about it, I think... It basically said, you can't.

Now, "How do I put a stutter effect like BT on my vocals?!"

Posted by skip on May-11-2007 07:33:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
If you had the instrumental and the vocal then what would be the point of wanting to take the vocal out?

i think the guy wants the vocals and get rid of the rest of the track. and in that case it'd work great. if he'd wanted to make an instrumental of the track then he'd need an acappella of the track.

this is something i'd really want to try, but i'm such a n00b when it comes to audio editing/producing techniques that i'm almost certain what i wouldn't be able to pull it off.

Posted by Whirloop on May-11-2007 07:56:

If you have a stereofilter and the vocals doesn't change pan you could use such a filter to filter out the vocals based on stereo angle.

Does work under the proper circumstances.

Posted by Trance Android on May-11-2007 08:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
Contrary to popular myth on here (and I am sure some fucktard nob will attempt to flame me for it) you can.
If you really know what you are doing and you have a wav/cd copy of both the full AND the instrumental version (mp3 or one that has been mp3 at any point will NOT work due to the lossy compression) then you can.
Need to play them together, and invert the phase of one and get it basically lined up almost to the sample (thats 44,100 samples so its needs to be pretty fucking accurate).
It can work exceptionally well in some cases, and poorly in others but it can work if you know how. You may even need to chop bits about and do sections at a time instead of the whole track.
Its not easy, and its not a simple 'push a button' fix like most people nowadays seem to like, but hey its more skills to your bow.

Danny is an established producer and knows his shit- take a read.
http://forum.defected.com/viewtopic.php?t=26246

The Freak is right. There was a "How To" vid knocking about online, maybe YouTube, that annoyingly I can't find right now Use an instrumental & vocal version of the track, invert the instrumental file & play them on top of each other. The result was really impressive & it was an interesting vid to watch

Posted by ASFSE on May-11-2007 18:32:

it works...the inversion way.