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Posted by swingman on May-12-2007 16:10:

beatmatching 2 channels together in headphones

So, is it cheating to do your beatmatching with both channels in your phones. I find it much more difficult matching as tight when i've got one ear in my headphones (cued track) and the other on the monitors (playing track)


Posted by A.B on May-12-2007 16:14:

Re: beatmatching 2 channels together in headphones

quote:
Originally posted by swingman
So, is it cheating to do your beatmatching with both channels in your phones. I find it much more difficult matching as tight when i've got one ear in my headphones (cued track) and the other on the monitors (playing track)



Absolutely, no one should EVER use the headphones to beatmatch two tunes together. As a matter of fact, you are breaking the DJ code by even using them in the first place.........


Posted by Mr.Mystery on May-12-2007 16:23:

In case you missed the sarcasm:

Whatever works for you.


Posted by DOOMBOT on May-12-2007 16:23:

Re: beatmatching 2 channels together in headphones

quote:
Originally posted by swingman
So, is it cheating to do your beatmatching with both channels in your phones. I find it much more difficult matching as tight when i've got one ear in my headphones (cued track) and the other on the monitors (playing track)

Whichever works best for you! I usually beatmatch with one on and one off the ear and then for minor adjustments listen to both tracks at the same time in the phones.


Posted by swingman on May-12-2007 16:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
In case you missed the sarcasm:

Whatever works for you.


dammit, i already threw out my headphones


Posted by Smiley :D on May-12-2007 17:12:

i always beatmatch in the headphones, am i doing it wrong?


Posted by DOOMBOT on May-12-2007 17:18:

I have a friend who beatmatches and mixes entirely in his headphones.


Posted by Vero on May-12-2007 17:29:

i always beatmatch in my headphones, its just what works for me.


Posted by skip on May-12-2007 17:40:

i don't have stands for my monitors, so i never really use them even as they're so low. and i've got my amp in another room aswell so controlling the volume of my monitors is a bitch. so therefore i mix only in the headphones every time i mix. i should really get stands for my monitors though and an amp in my bedroom for them so i could try mixing with the one ear method. altho i'm mixing just for my own enjoyment and i will never play out anywhere most likely. anyway i'd like to try mixing with monitors.


Posted by swingman on May-12-2007 17:48:

If i were to ever play out is there any scenario where a mixer wouldn't have that function? like, say you couldnt mix the channels in your phones, only select which single channel to listen to in your phones.


Posted by DOOMBOT on May-12-2007 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by swingman
If i were to ever play out is there any scenario where a mixer wouldn't have that function? like, say you couldnt mix the channels in your phones, only select which single channel to listen to in your phones.

Be ready for anything when you play out in other clubs/venues!


Posted by Mr.Mystery on May-12-2007 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by swingman
If i were to ever play out is there any scenario where a mixer wouldn't have that function? like, say you couldnt mix the channels in your phones, only select which single channel to listen to in your phones.

Sure, there is a possibility of that happening (I've had to use a Gemini mixer like that) but somehow nowadays it seems very, very unlikely.


Posted by Clovis on May-12-2007 18:53:

Depends entirely on the sound setup. If I'm playing on a real loud system with good monitors, 1 cue and 1 off is the best way for me. If I'm playing at low volume or without monitors, I match in the cans.


Posted by Spoonz on May-12-2007 19:11:

mainly one ear on one track and other ear on other track unless i'm struggling at all, in which case i use both tracks in headfones


Posted by nefardec on May-12-2007 20:53:

totally depends on the monitors. usually i beatmatch all in headphones, which is something i have more or less developed from living in an apartment with people who don't like to listen to dance music at 5 AM.

i use the monitors then for mixing


Posted by blacknoizybox on May-13-2007 06:38:

Re: beatmatching 2 channels together in headphones

quote:
Originally posted by swingman
So, is it cheating to do your beatmatching with both channels in your phones. I find it much more difficult matching as tight when i've got one ear in my headphones (cued track) and the other on the monitors (playing track)


were did you pick that nasty "cheat" word regarding DJs? ha, well...running choo-choo-trains in a mix is actually cheating the party ppl who payed money for some quality DJ performance, no?

i love to mix entirely in my phones, since the monitors rarely give you the whole picture. you dont have to focus on the monitors trying to leave the ambience away, you just play it in your headphones and you understand how cool you are


Posted by Andryuha on May-13-2007 14:15:

I personally like to beatmatch with both cups on. That gives you a much better precision. I tend to like longer transitions though and my decks are not that good (.1 pitch resolution). Because of that I need to take off one cup and and listen to what's coming from the speakers and ride the pitch accordingly.

As for your statement about cheating - I really don't see how cheating is possible when spinning. Unless you plug in a pre-made mix and look like you are doing something. But then again - that will not work, because you really need to adjust your track selection, based on the crowd.


Posted by Tony Morello on May-13-2007 14:47:

i like to beatmatch in my headphones, i learned soley in my haedphones because i was in my parents basement at late hours

i can beatmatch other ways, headphones one on, then off listening to the monitors and such

i use what i prefer but am adaptable depending on the setup


Posted by nchs09 on May-13-2007 18:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Vero
i always beatmatch in my headphones, its just what works for me.
me too.... i can do it in 1 but its difficult because i dont have monitors... i have big speakres that are about 1 foot lower than my head is.


Posted by Marcus007 on May-13-2007 19:40:

Re: Re: beatmatching 2 channels together in headphones

quote:
Originally posted by A.B
Absolutely, no one should EVER use the headphones to beatmatch two tunes together. As a matter of fact, you are breaking the DJ code by even using them in the first place.........


you r funneh mistar


Posted by Pinokio on May-14-2007 03:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Spoonz
mainly one ear on one track and other ear on other track unless i'm struggling at all, in which case i use both tracks in headfones


Why do you use one ear mainly, if you are more confident with both cups?


Posted by Nemesis44 on May-14-2007 16:28:

While we are on the subject, good skills to practice are matching with just the noise coming from the stylus, assuming that you are using Techs or altgernatively just match from the monitors and put your headphones away.

As long as you can listen and match the sound in as many scenarios the more confident at mixing you will be.

If you rock the crowd with a mircophone up your ass then who am I to judge... don't try this though, I have a feeling it would mean a trip to the Accident and Emergency room at your hospital.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by Clovis on May-14-2007 23:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
While we are on the subject, good skills to practice are matching with just the noise coming from the stylus, assuming that you are using Techs or altgernatively just match from the monitors and put your headphones away.

As long as you can listen and match the sound in as many scenarios the more confident at mixing you will be.

If you rock the crowd with a mircophone up your ass then who am I to judge... don't try this though, I have a feeling it would mean a trip to the Accident and Emergency room at your hospital.

Cheers
Nem



I like going barefoot and matching eq lights to the bass reverb from the floor.

Not really, but it would be funny


Posted by Dzokayi on May-15-2007 01:47:

learn as many ways as you can...

As said before, you never know what situation you'll encounter when playing out. The Rane MP2016 is popular down here, and it's strictly 1 in, 1 out monitoring on that mixer.


Posted by Rick Mage on May-15-2007 04:51:

I go both ways...


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