is Always the same BPM during whole set?

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Posted by CarlosM on Apr-11-2002 02:30:

is Always the same BPM during whole set?

Well.. I was wnodering this... i mean... if I started a set with a track that is 140 BPM.. and then if I gonna beatcmach with the incoming will have to be 140 as well.. and after that that the new 140 bpm incomming again.. and again... so.. at the end.. the last track will be 140 BPm too??... maybe there are tips to change the BPM of the Sets,,, but Basically they are always the same BPM??

Thanks

Posted by mute79 on Apr-11-2002 03:22:

basically theres no set rule... its up to your discretion... both are right

Posted by Xavier on Apr-11-2002 03:24:

Re: is Always the same BPM during whole set?

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Originally posted by CarlosM
Well.. I was wnodering this... i mean... if I started a set with a track that is 140 BPM.. and then if I gonna beatcmach with the incoming will have to be 140 as well.. and after that that the new 140 bpm incomming again.. and again... so.. at the end.. the last track will be 140 BPm too??... maybe there are tips to change the BPM of the Sets,,, but Basically they are always the same BPM??

Thanks

correct, why would you wanna change the bpm anyway? The only way i have found to change the bpm is by not beat matching on purpose and mixing terribly on purpose as well. lol

Posted by DJ A.i on Apr-11-2002 03:42:

hmm well, i would have to say yes, usually your BPM will be the same throughout your whole set.

Posted by Spin Doctor on Apr-11-2002 06:40:

Well yes and no. There will be some variation, but it�s going to be nothing major or highly noticeable. Personally, my BPM does change during a set. For CD�s and the like it stays the same throughout. However when I�m spinning out I�ll slowly build the BPM of the set so it gets a bit more banging towards the end. Not by much, but just a bit.

Posted by Great Outdoors on Apr-11-2002 09:47:

If you're going to spin prog to get the crowd into the mood and then slowly start to pump things up a little bit and then finish then off with a few epic trance tracks, then I think generally yhe BPMs are going to have to change *just a little*, slowly, hopefully unoticeably, as you go deeper into your set.

Or so I think.

Posted by Haak on Apr-11-2002 10:36:

But imagine you are mixing a tune that's 140 BPM into a tune that's 135 or something, wouldn't it be ok to gradually turn the 140 one up to (or araound) it's original pitch? (After you've cut out the 135 one of course.) Cause I think most tunes don't sound that good when slowed down...

Posted by quddha on Apr-11-2002 10:40:

I think there's nothing wrong with changing the bpm on a set... no rule that says you can't. If you're creative in doing it, and make it sound good, then go for it.

Posted by DjRV on Apr-11-2002 11:46:

When im spinning in the club (depends what party tho) i build up with nice progressive and let that flow in trance.Thru the tracks i up the pitch a bit now and then.At the end i spin hardtrance/techhouse and at that point the bpm is alot higher then when i started with progressive.But it's all up 2 the dj himself...

Posted by Great Outdoors on Apr-11-2002 12:50:

Rule of thumb: As long as the crowd doesn't notice, the decks and your mixer are your playground..

Posted by El~ZaPo on Apr-11-2002 19:51:

If you are purposely going to change the tempo during your set, do it at a part that is silent or very quiet without much going on, that way the crowd won't notice the the pitch going up.

Posted by hapamoto on Apr-11-2002 22:58:

sorry i didn't read this entire thread so if im repeating something.. my bad.. anyways, i change bpm's throughout a set because i play different styles.. i usually start w/ progressive/progressive house and i usually play that at like 140??(i'm guessing) and then i move into club house/nrg and try to pick that up a little to about 145ish, then i move into trance and bring it back down to about 140ish.. these are all guess because i don't have a bpm counter but i know that i start and end a little slower than the middle of my set and the way i do it is that i'll kinda pick up the speed during the last track or 2 before the next style of music, and i just kinda slide the pitch up gradually throughout the track so its not noticable to the crowd.. well thats how i do it at least!

Posted by Great Outdoors on Apr-12-2002 08:51:

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Originally posted by hapamoto
sorry i didn't read this entire thread so if im repeating something.. my bad.. anyways, i change bpm's throughout a set because i play different styles.. i usually start w/ progressive/progressive house and i usually play that at like 140??(i'm guessing) and then i move into club house/nrg and try to pick that up a little to about 145ish, then i move into trance and bring it back down to about 140ish.. these are all guess because i don't have a bpm counter but i know that i start and end a little slower than the middle of my set and the way i do it is that i'll kinda pick up the speed during the last track or 2 before the next style of music, and i just kinda slide the pitch up gradually throughout the track so its not noticable to the crowd.. well thats how i do it at least!

That's pretty much it..

Posted by wookieslut on Apr-12-2002 23:07:

yess the bpm will always be the same +/- if you can or cant beat match each one perfectly

Posted by DJ Fien on Apr-13-2002 01:24:

140 bpm for progressive?!?! Holy shit...I do around 126-134...

Posted by DJTJ on Apr-13-2002 13:11:

Yeah, 140's a bit fast for prog!

Posted by Dj Flesch on Apr-14-2002 08:02:

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I don't know what the big deal is to changing the bpm. I usually start around 140 and end up around 146 or so. It's not that much of a difference speeding up each track .1 to .2 percent a track. No one notices and you end up with a set that is much more intense at the end..not because of the particular music (though that should definitely play a role) but because you have increased the beat! A little goes a long way. Listen to a track at 140 then the same at 145...see which gets you more pumped up.

Posted by Great Outdoors on Apr-14-2002 10:21:

I've tried prog at 140.. it's listenable, and better yet, even a little danceable!

Posted by DJ Darchinova on Apr-15-2002 13:05:

i gradually start at 136 and by the end of the night get to 145bpm (around 5 hours).. anything faster and ppl will die..

Its just the whole part of people not noticing what it is that makes them dance harder.. and thats the bpm gradually going up.. if you analyse tiesto or PvD's sets, their sets go along the lines of these...