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Posted by sterilis on May-14-2007 19:13:

Unhappy Computer died and wont turn on !!!

i was on my computer this morning and it was working fine so i shut it down, went out for a bite to eat and came back, tried turning it on and it didnt work i tried hooking it up to another computer i have but it still wouldnt work. it was on all night so i thought it might have over heated so i vacuumed it out and sprayed compressed air into it to see if that helped when i plugged the power cable in it sparked so i pulled it out and havent touched it since.

im really worried about losing all my tracks and vst's as i havent backed up in about 4 months. anyone any suggestions?

cheers


Posted by Eldritch on May-14-2007 19:18:

Sounds like the PSU is dead.


Posted by Eric J on May-14-2007 19:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Eldritch
Sounds like the PSU is dead.


Sounds about right, especially if it sparked when you plugged it in. You should be able to buy another for $30-$50 depending on the wattage. It shouldn't affect the data on your hard disk unless the PSU fried the drive electronics which is exceedingly rare.


Posted by wotyzoid on May-14-2007 19:30:

wtf u my pc is always on and that never happened.?!?


Posted by sterilis on May-14-2007 19:33:

first time this happened. hopefully it is the power supply as im in the process of getting 1 of my tracks signed and i need the wav files etc. is there anyway i can check to see if it is the psu?


Posted by Eric J on May-14-2007 19:43:

Either salvage one from another computer for go buy a new one, that's the only way to check.


Posted by Rinster on May-14-2007 20:15:

just in case your gonna change anything in the pc, pull out the cables from your hard drive.


Posted by DigiNut on May-14-2007 22:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Eric J
Sounds about right, especially if it sparked when you plugged it in. You should be able to buy another for $30-$50 depending on the wattage. It shouldn't affect the data on your hard disk unless the PSU fried the drive electronics which is exceedingly rare.

Unless the PSU was running under-voltage for several weaks and half the data is too weak to read under normal power conditions.

/bitter

OP: If you're worried about your data, then just put your hard drives in a different PC or in an external enclosure and back them up.


Posted by sterilis on May-15-2007 00:11:

can you fcuk the hard drive up by taking it out and putting into another computer? just need to know the risks before i try something liek that.

cheers


Posted by DigiNut on May-15-2007 00:21:

quote:
Originally posted by sterilis
can you fcuk the hard drive up by taking it out and putting into another computer? just need to know the risks before i try something liek that.

Not unless you do it with the power still on... or you drop it in transit.


Posted by sterilis on May-15-2007 00:24:

nice one ill give that a shot tomorrow.


Posted by sterilis on May-15-2007 19:08:

cheers for all the help everyone i got it fixed. changed the psu and got it going again.

thanks


Posted by BOOsTER on May-15-2007 19:48:

good to hear...

No data-loss? cuz I remember when my PSU died my compie lost like 50% or more of the whole HDD data...


Posted by Rinster on May-15-2007 20:07:

nice one mate


Posted by sterilis on May-15-2007 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by BOOsTER
good to hear...

No data-loss? cuz I remember when my PSU died my compie lost like 50% or more of the whole HDD data...


nope everything still intact although my cd writer wont work might have a play around with that tonight to see whats wrong with it.


Posted by BOOsTER on May-15-2007 20:18:

nice, congrats...I bet the CD writer wasn't your biggest concern anyway...so


Posted by sterilis on May-15-2007 20:22:

quote:
Originally posted by BOOsTER
nice, congrats...I bet the CD writer wasn't your biggest concern anyway...so


no but wanted to back up my cubase files incase something major happens. takes a lucky escape like that to give you a wake up call to 'BACK UP OFTEN'


Posted by richg101 on May-15-2007 20:24:

great news man - my heart sunk for you a minute ago!


Posted by Eric J on May-15-2007 20:39:

This is why I keep all my data on a server with a 4 drive RAID 5 array, so even if there is a physical drive failure my data is safe.


Posted by DigiNut on May-15-2007 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Eric J
This is why I keep all my data on a server with a 4 drive RAID 5 array, so even if there is a physical drive failure my data is safe.

RAID doesn't replace backups. All sorts of things can happen to a server to make the data go boom.

If you've got a local copy on disk -and- the server copy then you've sort of got a quasi-backup, but if you run everything off the server directly then you're really not getting a lot of extra protection from the RAID.


Posted by Eric J on May-15-2007 23:37:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
RAID doesn't replace backups. All sorts of things can happen to a server to make the data go boom.

If you've got a local copy on disk -and- the server copy then you've sort of got a quasi-backup, but if you run everything off the server directly then you're really not getting a lot of extra protection from the RAID.


That is true, but at this point it is certainly better then a single drive system. I've been thinking about a backup solution for the server that doesn't involve me buying another server with a RAID array or an expensive tape backup solution. The question I have for you is, what are my options for backup?

External disk is OK, but it is a single drive system, plus space is limited. Tape backup is expensive and generally unweildy in a home situation. I can always set up a script to transfer data to any of this media on a standard schedule (differential every 2 days, full each week), but I'm not certain that is the optimal solution for my situation.

What would you recommend to back up ~ 200-300GB worth of data?


Posted by DigiNut on May-16-2007 00:08:

You pretty much covered it. At this point in time, file-based backup (i.e. another hard drive) is almost as cheap as tape backup, cheaper if you're less than a terabyte or so.

I'd just buy a 500 gig drive and an external enclosure, back your server up on that. You don't need to have another expensive RAIDed server to back it up on, just have your stuff in two independent locations.


Posted by Eric J on May-16-2007 00:24:

That sounds like a good plan. I think I'll go that route. Backup is something most of us don't think about until disaster strikes, but I think it is smart to be as proactive as possible.

It looks as if the WD My Book Premium ES is a 500GB external drive that should satisfy a backup requirement just nicely, and its only $220!

Thanks for the advice, it is much appreciated.



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