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After looking through some videos online, I watched a documentary about global warming. If you think global warming is caused by humans then this is definately something to watch.

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Watch before you flame. **puts of flamesuit**

Or you could summarize for us so we don't have to watch a video.

Who cares about this Global Warming thing? Anyway it won't happen in next 100 years so why bother so much? You'd better post a link on Spiderman 3 movie.

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Originally posted by star-traveller Who cares about this Global Warming thing? Anyway it won't happen in next 100 years so why bother so much? You'd better post a link on Spiderman 3 movie.

i can live to be 119 years old. year 2107? i will probably live to 200 yrs old.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Or you could summarize for us so we don't have to watch a video.

The reason I didn't do that is because there are so many arguments in there that if I just say them here, people will post arguments against it when its alrady covered in show.

Summary: Global warming isn't caused by humans.

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Originally posted by everett Summary: Global warming isn't caused by humans.

Yeah, I guess 200 years of pumping co2 into our atmosphere at a horrifying rate didn't make a dent.

Next thing you'll say is CFC's aren't destroying the ozone layer.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers Yeah, I guess 200 years of pumping co2 into our atmosphere at a horrifying rate didn't make a dent. Next thing you'll say is CFC's aren't destroying the ozone layer.

EXACTLY why i didn't want to post a summary. Watch the video.

Chances are if you are a firm believer of that, you won't watch the video anyway so I don't know why I bother...

i watched the video...and it's a good little documentary.

having seen an inconveinent truth i thought that it was pretty well put together and convincing, but this does another decent job of communicating the other side.


honestly, i don't know what to believe because every side has there professors and experts or charts and numbers or facts and myths bla bla bla...

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Originally posted by everett The reason I didn't do that is because there are so many arguments in there that if I just say them here, people will post arguments against it when its alrady covered in show. Summary: Global warming isn't caused by humans.

Nah bro..

You post your summary and your mind. If I disagree, it's because I have something to add or something to say.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i watched the video...and it's a good little documentary. having seen an inconveinent truth i thought that it was pretty well put together and convincing, but this does another decent job of communicating the other side. honestly, i don't know what to believe because every side has there professors and experts or charts and numbers or facts and myths bla bla bla...

Yea man...

All I know is that the winters are getting uncomfortable...

And the summers are getting uncomfortable...

We're going to pass our children an uncomfortable world. It's not right.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Yea man... All I know is that the winters are getting uncomfortable... And the summers are getting uncomfortable... We're going to pass our children an uncomfortable world. It's not right.

Well according to this video weather systems are mostly driven by the temperature difference between the poles and equator. If global warming were happening to an extreme then weather would actually get more mild.
As far as temperature during the winter and summer I'm not sure.

I don't think I've posted anything lengthy about this global warming debate, but this is getting out of hand already.

Does any of you really know how climate changes work? Have you studied anything about climate in general (prior to global warming), or are you trusting basing your opinion on documentaries and articles about this specific phenomenon?

Even if human interaction isn't the major cause, pumping co2 into the atmosphere is certainly not going to help. This is the main issue.

All this gloom and doom...

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Five Years Left To Save The Planet' Updated: 12:30, Tuesday May 15, 2007 Our planet is just five years away from climate change catastrophe - but can still be saved, according to a new report. Planet is five years from disaster Planet is five years from disaster The World Wide Fund for Nature (WWF) warns governments have until 2012 to "plant the seeds of change" and make positive moves to limit carbon emissions. If they fail to do so, the WWF's Vision For 2050 warns "generations to come will have to live with the compromises and hardships caused by their inability to act". "We have a small window of time in which we can plant the seeds of change, and that is the next five years," James Leape, from the WWF, said. "We cannot afford to waste them. This is not something that governments can put off until the future." Between now and 2050, the world's energy needs are expected to double.

5 years? Thank God we can still purchase a bazillion carbon credits to fix this problem! That's the only solution you need to know.

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Originally posted by Shakka All this gloom and doom... 5 years? Thank God we can still purchase a bazillion carbon credits to fix this problem! That's the only solution you need to know.

Hey Shakka, what do you make of Rupert Murdoch goin' green and buyin' credits now?:

http://www.environmental-finance.co...ews/0510mur.htm

I wonder if all that criticism on Faux News will be going after their owner now?:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200705150007

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Hey Shakka, what do you make of Rupert Murdoch goin' green and buyin' credits now?: http://www.environmental-finance.co...ews/0510mur.htm I wonder if all that criticism on Faux News will be going after their owner now?: http://mediamatters.org/items/200705150007

Who knows. Maybe he's trying to polish his image to push through his attempted purchase of Dow Jones (which will very unlikely ever happen). Maybe he just feels too guilty about how he rolls!

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Originally posted by Lira I don't think I've posted anything lengthy about this global warming debate, but this is getting out of hand already. Does any of you really know how climate changes work? Have you studied anything about climate in general (prior to global warming), or are you trusting basing your opinion on documentaries and articles about this specific phenomenon? Even if human interaction isn't the major cause, pumping co2 into the atmosphere is certainly not going to help. This is the main issue.

Most people are basing their opinions on articles and documentaries anyway, at least give them an alternate view point.

That was another thing addressed in this documentary... Even if global warming isn't happening then whats wrong with just being on the safe side?

Bets are you didn't watch the entire thing if any.

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Originally posted by everett Most people are basing their opinions on articles and documentaries anyway, at least give them an alternate view point.

I don't see what good an alternate point of view would make, and that's exactly my whole point: things are messed up no matter what the causes were, and we'd better do something about it. Why another thread?

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Originally posted by everett That was another thing addressed in this documentary... Even if global warming isn't happening then whats wrong with just being on the safe side? Bets are you didn't watch the entire thing if any.

Indeed, it was taking forever to load and I accessed their website as you supplied no summary whatsoever. There, they claimed that "[t]he film argues that rises in atmospheric carbon dioxide have nothing to do with climate change. Further, the present single-minded focus on reducing carbon emissions may have the unintended consequence of stifling development in the third world, prolonging endemic poverty and disease". Well, I do happen to live in "the 3rd world", and we're doing quite well tackling this problem (at least Brazil is).

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Originally posted by Lira I don't see what good an alternate point of view would make, and that's exactly my whole point: things are messed up no matter what the causes were, and we'd better do something about it. Why another thread? Indeed, it was taking forever to load and I accessed their website as you supplied no summary whatsoever. There, they claimed that "[t]he film argues that rises in atmospheric carbon dioxide have nothing to do with climate change. Further, the present single-minded focus on reducing carbon emissions may have the unintended consequence of stifling development in the third world, prolonging endemic poverty and disease". Well, I do happen to live in "the 3rd world", and we're doing quite well tackling this problem (at least Brazil is).

There are countries A LOT worse off than Brazil.

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Originally posted by everett There are countries A LOT worse off than Brazil.

But are they among the world's greatest polluters? I really don't think so.

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Originally posted by Lira But are they among the world's greatest polluters? I really don't think so.

China anyone?

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r China anyone?

Is China A LOT worse off than Brazil?

edit: By "worse off", he means economically, right? Because China is not that bad, at all, economically...

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Originally posted by Lira Is China A LOT worse off than Brazil? edit: By "worse off", he means economically, right? Because China is not that bad, at all, economically...

I agree, China is not bad off economically and industrially. I'm talking more along the lines of most African countries, Yemen in the middle east, etc.

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Originally posted by Lira Is China A LOT worse off than Brazil? edit: By "worse off", he means economically, right? Because China is not that bad, at all, economically...

Sorry, I thought you meant pollution-wise...

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Sorry, I thought you meant pollution-wise...

Nah talking about developing nations and why they are hindered due to the global warming debate.

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Originally posted by everett Nah talking about developing nations and why they are hindered due to the global warming debate.

Then I would still say, "China"?

They're the world's manufacturer and I doubt they have any serious laws curtailing their carbon footprint...

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