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Posted by washout on May-15-2007 12:34:

digital releases

as far as releases are concerned, usually we see them in CD or VINYL format.
i've been seeing WEB releases around, obviously composed of mp3 files, though i understand they can be ogg files.
are these legit?
i used discogs.com to see if something is legit.
if its not on discogs.com, i generally avoid it.
i will also check the artists website but have not found much on their "WEB" releases.
of course this assumes discogs.com is accurate, which is another subject.
anyhoo, this is discogs.com policy on digital releases ...

quote:

Due to the recent emergence of digital labels and the variety of those labels, we cannot establish firm guidelines on which digital releases will be accepted and which will not be accepted. However, below is a list of criteria which can prove the validity of a digital release. The more criteria that your release satisfies, the more likely it will be accepted into Discogs.

The existence of the release can be proven with a hyperlink.
The release has to be on a well known MP3 label. Tracks on mp3.com or other online-music portals are not accepted.
The release has to be listed with a catalog number.
The release is not available on any physical medium (it has to be MP3-exclusive).
The artist also has physical releases which are appropriate for Discogs.
The release does not consist of one single track, and the tracks have to be explicitly linked together as one release.
The release has its own layout that can be printed and used for self-made CDr versions of that release.
Discogs does not accept downloadable gimmicks from artist pages (Example: remixes, live-versions, etc.) or self-made music that someone has uploaded to his/her webspace.


so my question, how do i know if a release i see on a digital purchase website labeled WEB or MP3 release is legit?
is this WEB release starting a new format of releases that will become more common ??
anyone know anything on this shit ??


Posted by Pjotr G on May-15-2007 12:45:

if you but the digital releases from a legit webstore, you know it's legit.


Posted by david.michael on May-15-2007 13:15:

Just buy from well known, trusted sources. Beatport, AudioJelly, etc.


Posted by washout on May-15-2007 13:28:

to give an example, i was on beatport looking at an above & beyond release.
i think it was can't sleep.
it had it available for purchase/download for that particular release, defined by its tracks, was no where to be found on discogs or a&b site, or anjunabeats site.
i understand if its available for purchase/download it should be considered legit.
but why is it not recognized on other sites ??
and whats the difference between these and WEB releases ??
or are they the same.


Posted by Pjotr G on May-15-2007 14:07:

releases only appear on discogs because some member adds them.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on May-15-2007 14:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Pjotr G
releases only appear on discogs because some member adds them.

...which seems to be damn near impossible now that they changed the system.


Posted by washout on May-15-2007 14:19:

and like i said, i rely on discogs for "legitness."
hahaha.
it seems the single most organized, and usually accurate, source of information for artist/track information.
is there another place you guys use ??
dont get me wrong, i've seen mistakes and errors on discogs.


Posted by Djeebie on May-15-2007 14:30:

Why go to sites to check if they're legit If Beatport or any other download store sells tracks they are legit. And the fact some releases aren't mentioned on the label's website is due to not updating the site.

Anyway digital tracks are replacing vinyl and even cd more and more.


Posted by washout on May-15-2007 14:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Djeebie
Why go to sites to check if they're legit If Beatport or any other download store sells tracks they are legit. And the fact some releases aren't mentioned on the label's website is due to not updating the site.


good question.
i am an orginzed freak.

quote:
Originally posted by Djeebie
Anyway digital tracks are replacing vinyl and even cd more and more.


how come artists are so slow to recognize their digital releases on their sites ??
it makes me wonder how legit it is.


Posted by stan229 on May-15-2007 15:11:

when you say WEB release that is linked to only illegitimate/pirate music.. so i dont think this would be the best place to talk about that stuff

just get your music from beatport/aj/vonyc/trackitdown/djdownloads/cdjshop/label's website and youre guaranteed to have music in the most legimate and in perfect download quality (sometimes wave, but it wouldnt be a shitty reencode 320 either)


Posted by washout on May-15-2007 15:22:

quote:
Originally posted by stan229
when you say WEB release that is linked to only illegitimate/pirate music.. so i dont think this would be the best place to talk about that stuff

just get your music from beatport/aj/vonyc/trackitdown/djdownloads/cdjshop/label's website and youre guaranteed to have music in the most legimate and in perfect download quality (sometimes wave, but it wouldnt be a shitty reencode 320 either)


ok im glad you said that.
anything labeled WEB is not legit.
dont see why this is the wrong place to talk about it.
i now know to avoid it, and so do others who read it here.
with that said, why doesnt artist sites or discogs, recognize digital releases commonly found on beatport/aj/vonyc/trackitdown/djdownloads/cdjshop.
see my point ??
WEB releases are considered not legit.
what makes them different from the stuff available for purch/download.
whose to say the purch/download releases are legit ??
where does the source of legitimacy come from ??
my head hurts.


Posted by david.michael on May-15-2007 15:34:

WEB release does not mean it isn't legit. "Web Release" and "Digital Release" are synonymous.

Stick with major sites and don't buy from shoddy-ass ones, I don't see what's so difficult...


Posted by stan229 on May-15-2007 15:39:

the WEB im referring to is usually linked with "scene" releases as PROMO_CDS/Vinyl/PROMO_CDM which are just ripped songs

Better be safe than sorry and just buy it off the main retailers where you know that there wont be any problems with the mp3/wav and if there is they can give you a refund


Posted by washout on May-15-2007 15:44:

since no one can really give a clear answer, ill abide by these.

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
Stick with major sites and don't buy from shoddy-ass ones, I don't see what's so difficult...


quote:
Originally posted by stan229
Better be safe than sorry and just buy it off the main retailers where you know that there wont be any problems


still, ive come across releases on the major sites that are not recognized/listed on the artist site (or discogs)??
are webmasters for these artist sites collectively lazy ??


Posted by stan229 on May-15-2007 15:50:

Oh in that case yes
for example
Thomas Bronzwaer - Constellation came on vonyc before it was on vandit.com and it was a vandit release


Posted by Djeebie on May-15-2007 17:35:

quote:
Originally posted by washout still, ive come across releases on the major sites that are not recognized/listed on the artist site (or discogs)??
are webmasters for these artist sites collectively lazy ??


Yes they are. I'm writing reviews and always check both the label and artist sites for extra info. Most of the time the releases I have to review aren't mentioned on these sites. Right now for example I'm writing a review for Composure Records release 025, but their site shows a discography that has 019 as the last one However, artists tend to update their myspace more often than their original site.


Posted by erdega on May-15-2007 18:06:

Web release is a scene release bought from online shops, not ripped from cd or vinyl



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