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Palestinians descend into civil war.
I like how one side is trying to draw Israel into the fighting.......
This is the time when the World needs to step up and stop this crap. How can peace between Israel and the Palastinians occur when they are killing each other?? But then again this ties into the Whole Micky Mouse Thread too..... can peace be found when so much hate breeds like fruit flies in this area??
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| GAZA CITY (AP) -- Hamas gunmen fatally shot six bodyguards from the rival Fatah movement and fired a barrage of rockets at southern Israel on Wednesday, apparently attempting to draw Israel into the fierce Palestinian infighting as Gaza slid further into chaos. The streets of central Gaza City echoed with the rattle of machine gun fire and were empty except for gunmen in black ski masks. Terrified residents huddled in dark homes after electricity to some downtown neighborhoods was cut off by a downed power line. A nurse traveling in an ambulance was shot in the head and killed after being caught in the crossfire, hospital officials said. Fighting raged close to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' heavily guarded compound, which also was targeted by Hamas mortar fire overnight. Abbas, a moderate from Fatah, was not present. Early Wednesday, Hamas gunmen fired mortars and pipe bombs at the home of Fatah security chief Rashid Abu Shbak, before storming inside and killing six bodyguards, Palestinian security and medical officials said. Abu Shbak and his family were not home at the time of the attack, but the house was guarded by at least a dozen of his bodyguards. Dozens of reinforcements from the Preventive Security organization, which Abu Shbak used to head, were sent in to join the fighting. Abdel Hakim Awad, a Fatah spokesman, angrily accused Hamas' leadership of the attack on Abu Shbak's house. "All (Hamas) are killers from top to bottom, all are implicated," he said, charging that the Islamist group "wanted to turn Gaza into a new Somalia or Darfur." Rockets fired into Israel Hamas officials said the organization's men launched eight rockets at Israel on Wednesday, following a barrage of around 20 rockets a day earlier. That salvo at the Israeli town of Sderot, just outside Gaza, wounded 21 Israelis, one seriously -- a woman whose house took a direct hit, said Yerucham Mendola, spokesman for the Red Star of David, the Israeli equivalent of the Red Cross. There were no casualties Wednesday morning, but school was canceled in Sderot and residents huddled in bomb shelters. Hamas said its rockets were retaliation for Israeli violence, but the barrage also could have been an attempt to draw Israel into the fighting as a way of uniting the Palestinians against a common foe. Israeli Defense Minister Amir Peretz summoned army commanders for late-night consultations to consider Israel's next move. Israeli security officials said there would be no large-scale military response to the rocket fire so as not to play into Hamas' hands. "Israel is not going to be dragged into the Gaza Strip the way that Hamas wants. We will choose the time, the place to respond and we will protect our citizens," said Israeli government spokeswoman Miri Eisin. Wednesday's violence in Gaza followed a stunning Hamas attack the previous day on a group of Fatah-affiliated policemen at the coastal strip's only cargo crossing. In that attack, Hamas gunmen surrounded a Fatah police jeep and riddled its passengers with bullets at close range, killing eight. An Egyptian mediator said a truce was reached late Tuesday -- the third in as many nights. But like the previous agreements, Tuesday's agreement collapsed within hours. Peace hopes weakened Gaza's turmoil further weakened hopes for a resumption of Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, despite SOURCE |
relax
Rising the escalation of the crises
is one of the main goals by outer and insider players
Ok if u want the reality start of all of this
Here's the start of the conflict
cut from the Al-Ahram's interview with Robert Fisk
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| Fingerprints of history Gamal Nkrumah and Mohamed El-Sayed gauge the state of the world's most troubled region -- the Middle East -- with eminent author Robert Fisk Palestine is a different kettle of fish altogether. "The Islamic Movement Hamas didn't succeed because we (Western governments) didn't want them to succeed. We didn't want to talk to them. And they were under sanctions because the Western governments believe that those pesky Palestinians elected the wrong people. Western governments do not want democracy in the Middle East. We are quite happy to have dictators if they are obedient to us. We like them when they invade Iran, but not when they invade Kuwait. We liked Egypt until it nationalised the Suez Canal. Then we bombed Port Said, Ismailia and Suez. Because we have ideological as well as oil interests, we try constantly to refashion the fa�ade that allows us to support various regimes." Fisk continues: "Western governments want peoples [of the region] to elect political forces these governments like. The Palestinians didn't vote for an Islamic republic, rather they were sick of corruption. The way [Western governments] dealt with Arafat's regime made it bound to be corrupt. If the Palestinians had elected people Western governments had wanted they would have praised this democracy. Western governments and the European Union didn't want to give money to Hamas. They were used to giving it to a Palestinian Authority that was squandering it." Fisk concludes: "From the very beginning I said Oslo would be a tragedy." What about the new government of national unity bringing Fatah and Hamas together? "Should Hamas recognise the State of Israel? If Israel really wants peace, why don't they sit with Hamas and have a serious, mature discussion to agree on a formula that would work? The question is: Do we want peace or not? Why don't we refer back to UN Security Council Resolution 242 stating that Israel should withdraw from all the territories occupied in 1967?" |
well, just think how much worse things would be if they werent bound by their religion of peace!
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN well, just think how much worse things would be if they werent bound by their religion of peace! |
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| Originally posted by M.Johan relax Rising the escalation of the crises is one of the main goals by outer and insider players Ok if u want the reality start of all of this Here's the start of the conflict cut from the Al-Ahram's interview with Robert Fisk The Source |
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| Originally posted by Yoepus Right of course. The problem is always something external. Its never the Palestinian. It must be the West, or America, or Jews, or free trade, or some global conspiracy. Never the Palestinians. Never the local players. Right on. |
take some responsibility for fucksake.
************, who caused it. Not at all good.
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN exactly. i saw one of hamas' leaders last night, saying something about the violence being part of the "american plan" take some responsibility for fucksake. |
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| Originally posted by Yoepus Right of course. The problem is always something external. Its never the Palestinian. It must be the West, or America, or Jews, or free trade, or some global conspiracy. Never the Palestinians. Never the local players. Right on. |
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| Israeli war planes carry out three strikes in Gaza; five Palestinians killed Five Palestinians were killed on Friday morning when Israeli planes attacked several locations in Gaza city. Friday May 18, 2007 10:48 by Ghassan Bannoura - IMEMC& Agencies  Palestinian sources stated that the jets targeted a group gathered in the Al Zaiton neighborhood, east of Gaza city. A Hamas-affiliated site,www.palestine-info.info, reported that those killed were members of the Al Qassam brigades, the armed wing of Hamas. Sources in the Palestinian Ministry of Health in Gaza reported that among the dead were Ahmad Siam, 23, Ahmad Saleh, 24, Saleh Juha, 24, Hatem Al Jabareen, 25, and Waleed Al Hijen, 25. Doctors stated that all five bodies were severely burned and mutilated. The same sources also reported scores of injured people, with at least five currently lying in a critical condition. For their part, Palestinian resistance groups continued to fire homemade Qassam shells at Israeli targets in the Negev and the nearby Israeli town of Siderot. Israeli sources reported damage to some buildings but no injuries. On Thursday evening, two Israelis were injured when a Qassam shell hit a synagogue in Siderot. |
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| Three Palestinian children injured as army invades Tulkarem city Friday May 18, 2007 11:23 by Ghassan Bannoura - IMEMC News Palestinian sources reported that three Palestinian children were injured by Israeli army fire as the latter invaded the northern West Bank city of Tulkarem on Thursday night and Friday morning.  Eyewitnesses reported that after storming the eastern side of Tulkarem late on Thursday late night, soldiers attacked and searched scores of homes, forced families to leave, firing sound bombs and damaging houses. In the early hours of Friday morning, clashes erupted between stone-throwing children and the invading troops. Medical sources stated that the soldiers fired live rounds and rubber bullets at the boys, injuring three. The Israeli army stated that the operation aimed to apprehend so-called �Wanted Palestinians�. Local sources in the city reported that the army left after capturing no one. |
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| Israeli army kills a Palestinian child near Bethlehem Friday May 18, 2007 11:31 by Ghassan Bannoura - IMEMC& Agencies Palestinian sources reported on Friday that a Palestinian child died in Beit Jala public hospital, located in the southern West Bank city of Bethlehem, after being shot by Israeli soldiers late on Thursday night. (image:not permitted) A group of Israeli soldiers attacked homes in the village of Beit Fajar, located to the south of Bethlehem city. During the attack, soldiers randomly opened fire on a group of children playing in front of their homes, critically injuring Ziad Takatka, 16. The boy was moved to Bethlehem public hospital, but later died from his wounds. Also early on Friday, an Israeli force invaded the village of Obadiyah, east of Bethlehem city. Soldiers searched a number of homes and kidnapped two Palestinian civilians in the incursion. |
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| Originally posted by Lilith ************, who caused it. Not at all good. |
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| Originally posted by LazFX Typical, well at least of late; when dealing with anything related to Islamic Believers.... its always everyone else...never the muslim |
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| Originally posted by Lilith ************, who caused it. Not at all good. |
Who is to blame?
The Palestinians for voting in Hamas?
or
The international community for cutting off aid?
The funny thing is, Palestinians still believe shooting rockets into Israel is going to help them with their statehood. That's evident in the fact they voted in the primary rocket launchers.
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