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My Melodies are too complex?
Thats what some people are telling me,when they hear it. I just would like my melodies to sound more melodic and uplifting.
the samples are below .
2 bar chord change Variation one key ,no progression
You realize it's not very easy for us to figure out what that's supposed to sound like by looking at a sequencer's piano roll, right? I would at least post a score or an MP3 sample.
Part of it looks like harmony problems to me. No common mode of Bb uses both a C#/Db and a D. And you never seem to sit on anything for longer than an 8th-note duration.
It's never "complexity" that's the problem, it's arrangement and mixing. I'd love to give more input but I'm not about to pencil all of those notes into my own sequencer to hear how it sounds.
Also, it's a little unusual in electronic music (and even most classical music) to be arranging 5 or 6 voices in the same instrument.
some people just like simple melodys but your dosent look too complicated.
I've seem melodys that are far more complicated than yours.
I like a decent bassline and a complicated melody,it's how it all fits together that makes it stand out.
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| all the melodies are 8 bars in the key of Bb flat and use the following progression I,VI,IV,V the first one changes chord every 2 bars. |
lol man, i agree with MJ, just use your ears
if people are saying its too "complex"... it means it's shit
Either create a basic melody and a busy bassline e.g. triplets or a complex melody and a off beat to stop each other interfering???
gotta go with mystical as well
Lets hear a clip dude and we can give an honest opinion. 
Make music your happy with an take ppl's opinion with a pinch of salt
I don't hear anything "too complex" even by trance standards. I will say that it sounds a bit circusy and unnatural. It sounds like you just picked a bunch of notes and threw them on the page. That doesn't work all that well when writing music.
yeah nothing too complex.. its just cheesey is the problem. i like the first bar of it, but when it goes into the second half it enters CheeseVille. I'd just work with the first half of it.
Lol
well the sound your using is pretty hilarious, it reminds me of one of those old merry go rounds (sp??) so NEVER USE IT AGAIN.
That aside, the actual concept isn't bad, but your just hitting notes at random and not thinking about what your doing, or listening to what it sounds like.
If you were listening you would probably be repeating stuff to actually make it coherent and definately not using such an "odd" scale(yes its not that strange but its not working here). It worked for Bach yes, but your organ's not as big as his. your on the right track though, just keep practising.
Oh yeah, and like everyone else said, listen to what your doing!
The melodies just need a better synth and a good driveing bassline to make them sound better.
It sounds cheesy becouse of the synths you have used, use a harder synth and it will sound 100% better.
Send me the midi files and i will show you what i mean 
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Eek - to be brutally honest, hearing that reminded me of some of the less-appealing tracks from Zelda II on the NES back in 1988, only not put together as well.
My advice to you is:
I don't wanna discourage you - you have some understanding of harmony and counterpoint which is a very good thing. I think you just need to be a little more cautious and self-critical and not be too anxious to put the first thing you come up with into the finished product. Most of us have to scrap or update large chunks of every track before it's ever ready for mass listening.
THe number one cure to know whether your melodies sound appropriate or not it to actually listen to music from the genre in question.
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| Originally posted by B_man THe number one cure to know whether your melodies sound appropriate or not it to actually listen to music from the genre in question. |
The first sample was bit too incoherent for me but I was actually diggin' the other two after a couple of listens. Granted the patch sounds very thin in isolation, but a tweaked version in the context of a full song wouldn't sound as awkward. I think people are being a bit too harsh here. The track has something of an old school rave sound that I find nostalgic. Perhaps people demand so much from a pure production standpoint these days that the creative aspect is overlooked when a song is not up to contemporary production standards. My advice would be to go with what YOU are satisfied with as the author of the song. There are enough artists out there trying to replicate what already exists; do what you enjoy, even if it means not having as broad of an appeal. Who knows, maybe in the context of a different time and amidst different fads, your work may be heralded as having been ahead of its time. At least you can sleep at night knowing you did not sacrifice your vision for something you don't even believe.
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| Originally posted by newtrancer and i agree with MaxC if everyone sounded like everyone else then Electronica would be very boring. |
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| Originally posted by tranceinjection The melodies just need a better synth and a good driveing bassline to make them sound better. It sounds cheesy becouse of the synths you have used, use a harder synth and it will sound 100% better. |
Yeah... share midi files to test with any other synth. 
I don't recommend the old escape of "they just criticize me because I'm unique/different". Yes, there have been a handful of brilliant people way ahead of their times who never gained mainstream acceptance in the community until after their deaths, but odds are that you aren't one of them. Neither am I. For every misunderstood genius there are a hundred more people who are simply unwilling or unable to grasp the fundamentals.
Of course we all want to make art that's different from all the other art. Different in what way - that's the important part. It only pays to break convention if you have good reason to believe that the conventions are wrong or incomplete.
hey digi that's deep yo.
I don't want to sound harsh but that sound is kinda hilarious. Seems like that standard 3x osc sound with 2 saws or something. You have to find the patience to get into the world of synth programming and FX. Try some new synths (synth1 is a free one and a very good one - find it on google and patches on my websit-) and try using reverb, equalising, chorus, pingpong or stereo delay. I can imagine this melody would sound good with a decent patch on it. You could try to change the pattern a little but the chords sound okay.
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| Originally posted by newtrancer I programmed a new patch and a different melody and you can hear the difference . |
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| Originally posted by DigiNut I don't recommend the old escape of "they just criticize me because I'm unique/different". Yes, there have been a handful of brilliant people way ahead of their times who never gained mainstream acceptance in the community until after their deaths, but odds are that you aren't one of them... For every misunderstood genius there are a hundred more people who are simply unwilling or unable to grasp the fundamentals... It only pays to break convention if you have good reason to believe that the conventions are wrong or incomplete. |
Why dont you guys post some of your samples if you are so much great at what you do.
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