Stereo splitting to mixer + Ableton

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Posted by BOOsTER on May-19-2007 12:53:

Stereo splitting to mixer + Ableton

Hi guys,

really a quick question.

I bought a laptop (ASUS F3H for those who would care to bash me). I am not able to buy an external soundcard for now, so I would like to use the integrated Azalia for DJing (With Ableton).

I think that if I use one of these: and then one of these: on both of the plugs, I'd be able to put these to the mixer right?

Now if I send ableton channel 1 to left and chan 2 to right (resp. Ext. Out. 1 and 2) I'd be able to have two tracks without any big problems (cept the obvious latency right?)

will that work? Thanks...I'm too lazy to try that

Posted by andydavey on May-19-2007 15:19:

That would work (assuming Ableton will let you assign output channels individually rather than in stereo pairs), just use the splitter and connect the two lefts (black plugs in your pictures) into channel 1 of your mixer and the two rights (red plugs in your pictures) into channel 2. However, you will then only get dual mono for each channel, rather than stereo. As to whether this bothers you is up to you really...

Posted by BOOsTER on May-19-2007 15:49:

the PA is mono anyway thanks mate

Posted by Andryuha on May-19-2007 18:48:

I'm pretty sure that this isn't going to work. With a splitter, you will still technically have one output, meaning that both of the outputs in the splitter will play the same thing. To achieve what you're describing - the only option is a multi-channel sound card.

Posted by BOOsTER on May-19-2007 21:24:

I would think that technically stereo are two mono channels so to say, ableton lets you send different things to each of them, so basically if you connect it right should give you two different mono outputs...I will have to wait and see when I get my hands on the mixer which will be like next week when I am playing at our club

Posted by acidasm on May-20-2007 00:59:

I would recomend using external soundcard(audio interface) with at least four outputs so u can get two decent stereo channels.

Posted by DJMikeyP on May-20-2007 01:25:

ah ok i know what you're doing wrong. You're splitting at the wrong level. That first 1/8ths inch jack splitter is only going to give you two identical copies of your stereo mix. That means both pairs of your 1/8th-to-RCA converters will be carrying the exact same signal.

If you really want to get the split working, try this... Use that 1/8th-To-RCA converter at the FIRST step, then that way you'll actually have left and right seperated, which you can probably just send one to each channel (you know, how alot of inputs are OK using 1 channel since the mixer would just interpret it as mono). If your mixer isn't ok with 1 channel, then use an RCA splitter on each.

If you're totally struggling with this concept I think I have the parts in my gig bag to make that setup so if you beg and cry and scream i'll plug the plugs together and take a photo of it for you or something.

Posted by BOOsTER on May-20-2007 08:15:

no probs, I think I understand thanks

but as andy mentioned...I think that if I would plug the two lefts to one chan and the two rights to the other it should work also, shouldn't it?

Posted by andydavey on May-20-2007 12:07:

It doesn't matter which way round you split it, you still end up with two lefts and two rights at the end of the day, you just plug them into the mixer in a way you wouldn't logically think do it (i.e. one set of red and black RCAs doesn't equal one channel).

Posted by DJMikeyP on May-20-2007 12:43:

oh yeah duh... of course it'll work the original way you had it. You get 2 copies of the stereo mix with that 1/8th splitter, then you can run 2 reds to one, and 2 blacks to the other. Should work no problem.

Posted by BOOsTER on May-20-2007 12:57:

cool shit, thanks guys

cheers

Posted by BOOsTER on May-21-2007 17:57:

yeah guys damn cool it is worked as a charm...

only thing that bothers me just a little bit is...

do I risk any damage to the equipment?

a bit late to ask that, eh?

Posted by andydavey on May-21-2007 21:33:

Nope, none at all

Posted by BOOsTER on May-22-2007 09:57:

great, thanks!