So the competition was a massive failure... for rea

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Posted by Beatflux on May-20-2007 15:48:

So the competition was a massive failure... for rea

I think there are just too many issues with a defined play list. One issue is the cost of entering, another one comes down to preference.

A typically mix whatever the hell you want sort of competition featuring trance as the first genre is what I thought might attract enough participants.

One crazy idea I had was to have a MP3 vs CD vs Vinyl competition. Or even forum vs forum...lol

Practically nobody participated in the event, so I'd like to hear from DJs what kind of competition they would like to participate in.

After Nick messaged me, I realized that competitions are really a great way to listening to other DJs and pick up new techniques, or just spark up new ideas of your own. So I hope that we can create a new and improved competition.

Thanks.

Posted by Allayla on May-20-2007 17:33:

House, including any sub genres, one half hour, no rules.. thats just an idea

Posted by idoru on May-20-2007 17:52:

One of the main reasons I didn't participate was because of the terrible selection of tunes we were given. Don't get me wrong, most of them were great tunes, but they're overplayed (see: every "classic" compilation), everybody's heard them, and there's not much new that can be done with them.

Also, the cost of entering shouldn't be worried about. Since the mixes will be submitted to judges at a slightly low bitrate, there's really no way to tell whether or not someone bought or illegally obtained their tunes. The result is that people who are unable to afford to enter are still able to do so.

If this is to be done again then you'll need to select a group of four or five people to sit down and discuss how it will be done as opposed to letting the whole forum in on it, because at that point it gets tough trying to decide on one thing. Also, I don't think that there is a way to successfully entice everyone to enter the same competition.

Posted by chris harrington on May-21-2007 06:20:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
One of the main reasons I didn't participate was because of the terrible selection of tunes we were given. Don't get me wrong, most of them were great tunes, but they're overplayed (see: every "classic" compilation), everybody's heard them, and there's not much new that can be done with them.

Also, the cost of entering shouldn't be worried about. Since the mixes will be submitted to judges at a slightly low bitrate, there's really no way to tell whether or not someone bought or illegally obtained their tunes. The result is that people who are unable to afford to enter are still able to do so.

If this is to be done again then you'll need to select a group of four or five people to sit down and discuss how it will be done as opposed to letting the whole forum in on it, because at that point it gets tough trying to decide on one thing. Also, I don't think that there is a way to successfully entice everyone to enter the same competition.

+1 to all of that. i would have entered if i had 2 cdjs but i only have one right now when i get my second one probably in june i will be able to enter this sorta thing

Posted by bamski on May-21-2007 06:44:

Totally agree with Idoru on this. I'm really sad it didn't work out..
I would have loved to participate but the track selection / genre just wasn't for me.. It's a great idea to have maybe 4-6 guys sit down and try to plan a new comp.. It would be sweet.
And if possible the competition could be (for example) three different genres.. Maybe..

Trance
Electro & Tech-house
Ambient (?)

And to each genre different guy's to select the tracks..?
I know for a fact that we'd have TA's that could make a track selection that everyone (well most of us) could relate to..

Posted by RJT on May-21-2007 13:55:

No one is suprised it was a failure, right?

Terrible choice of tracks that were anything but relevant to the majority of DJ's who post in here - beyond which, the whole thing just felt rushed and hastily put together.

A little bit of thought and deliberation goes a long ways - I'm with Jake, leaving it up to a whole forum to figure out is asking for disorder and apathy.

Posted by Brandon H. on May-21-2007 17:07:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
No one is suprised it was a failure, right?

Terrible choice of tracks that were anything but relevant to the majority of DJ's who post in here - beyond which, the whole thing just felt rushed and hastily put together.

A little bit of thought and deliberation goes a long ways - I'm with Jake, leaving it up to a whole forum to figure out is asking for disorder and apathy.

+1

Posted by bamski on May-22-2007 04:53:

Posted by idoru on May-22-2007 05:45:

quote:
Originally posted by DuBam
..But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try again.. Right?

No, it doesn't. It just means getting together a small (see: three or four) group to take their time and decide on how the competition is going to run. The group should also understand that there's no way that the competition will be one that allows for all members of the forum to enter unless it's just a general mix competition (even then, lots of people will have a problem with that).

Posted by Tangil on May-23-2007 12:10:

How about giving the competition some focus like make the best mix you can for a different environment?

eg. make a warm up set
a peak time set
a closing set
a summer set
a set for studying
a set to introduce your friends to edm
a set which consists of tunes that only came out in 2004-2005...

Posted by Ted Promo on May-23-2007 12:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Tangil
How about giving the competition some focus like make the best mix you can for a different environment?

eg. make a warm up set
a peak time set
a closing set
a summer set
a set for studying
a set to introduce your friends to edm
a set which consists of tunes that only came out in 2004-2005...

a set to listen to while clipping toe nails
a set for backing out of the driveway
a set for when you're searching for a set to put on
a lawn mowing set

you know

Posted by Tangil on May-23-2007 13:02:

Nah

Posted by Ted Promo on May-23-2007 13:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Tangil
Nah

Oh. Lose :/

Posted by Tangil on May-23-2007 13:56:

Posted by RJT on May-23-2007 14:00:

I've always kind of laughed at "DJ competitions" like these.

Sure, turntablism competitions are a fucking blast, but let's be honest here - the kind of mixing we're talking about for something like this is usually going to heavily rely on subjective experience and taste when individuals are passing judgment on the entries.

Picking an objective "winner" of such a competition seems like a bit of a joke to me; it just doesn't really seem possible.

Posted by Tangil on May-23-2007 14:18:

True, however that's where voting comes in - the set with the most votes wins. And then, there's not necessarily an 'objective winner', more just which is more popular.