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Posted by drizzt81 on Apr-12-2002 01:33:

In light of recent 'Cheese' threads

Can trance without vocals be cheese?

I think not, since you need the 'cheesy' vocals to go with your 'lalalalala' song... (see ATC)


Posted by speedracer_mec on Apr-12-2002 01:36:

Talking ummm

i think everything by pulsedriver is cheese....IMO..


Posted by Damo on Apr-12-2002 01:37:

Re: In light of recent 'Cheese' threads

quote:
Originally posted by drizzt81
Can trance without vocals be cheese?


guy, one obvious word






SANDSTORM


Posted by elena on Apr-12-2002 01:37:

darude - sandstorm


Posted by drizzt81 on Apr-12-2002 01:43:

/me slaps self in head -REPEATEDLY

i guess that says

CASE CLOSED


Posted by tranceDJ on Apr-12-2002 01:43:

quote:
Originally posted by miss_e
darude - sandstorm


Sandstorm became cheese, it was not it originally. PvD spun Sandstorm when it came out and he's pretty damn anti-cheese judging from his comments on ATB. If you had never heard sandstorm and heard it today for the first time you would think it's pretty good. It was overplayed and Darude became a bit of sellout making remixes and other songs sounding just like 'sandstorm' in order to make money.


Posted by TranceSeeker on Apr-12-2002 01:44:

quote:
Originally posted by drizzt81
/me slaps self in head -REPEATEDLY

i guess that says

CASE CLOSED


hey mate is that u in your avatar, u look like a nice and funny guy!


Posted by speedracer_mec on Apr-12-2002 01:45:

Talking lol

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSeeker


hey mate is that u in your avatar, u look like a nice and funny guy!
oh oh.....i smell love in the air...lol


Posted by Damo on Apr-12-2002 01:47:

it sounded decent, nothing that blew my mind, it's just the fact that mainstream america embraced the song, and little shithead kiddies used to go around thinking they were 1337 R@V0RS because they listened to darude over and over. i heard it on MTV Video Awards show for christ sake, case closed indeed.


Posted by drizzt81 on Apr-12-2002 01:51:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSeeker


hey mate is that u in your avatar, u look like a nice and funny guy!


yup that is me.. the avatar was done by DevanteS based on a pic from the PvD show at Sound Factory NYC 3-29-02

thanks for the compliment


Posted by Ste on Apr-12-2002 02:01:

Re: In light of recent 'Cheese' threads

quote:
Originally posted by drizzt81
Can trance without vocals be cheese?

I think not, since you need the 'cheesy' vocals to go with your 'lalalalala' song... (see ATC)


i did my cheese definations in a thread a long whiel ago. let me find them...

i cudnt fin them so here a minimalist version of the rules of cheese:

1) catchy gimmicky sample with no overall quality to the rest of the tune?, eg darude, resurection.

2)totally commerical feel to it designed to be in the charts, which must have vocals in that are cheesy. eg. fragma, castles in the sky.

2) sounds like its been made by sum1 with a really crap sampler of on Ejay. ie sounds tinny and jabby like a cheap piece of tack. eg, castles in the sky, lasgo.


they are the three laws of cheese


Posted by tranceDJ on Apr-12-2002 02:07:

I know most people won't admit to it but a lot of the cheese songs are likable once they're being pounded on a loud system at a club and everyone's dancing. I saw a club go nuts to 'ATB - Hold You' and I admit I was enjoying the moment. Cheese is not so bad unless you get horribly cheesy stuff that just makes your ears bleed.


Posted by Damo on Apr-12-2002 02:13:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceDJ
I know most people won't admit to it but a lot of the cheese songs are likable once they're being pounded on a loud system at a club and everyone's dancing. I saw a club go nuts to 'ATB - Hold You' and I admit I was enjoying the moment. Cheese is not so bad unless you get horribly cheesy stuff that just makes your ears bleed.


that can be true in some cases, the songs aren't that horrible. I think for most people it's just the fact that the songs so popular.


Posted by torontotrance on Apr-12-2002 03:39:

Smile

I'm lactose intolerant......i can't stand cheese.....i makes my stomach sick.....kinda like listening to cheese.


Posted by SportTrance on Apr-12-2002 03:40:

Re: lol

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
oh oh.....i smell love in the air...lol


lol......


Posted by speedracer_mec on Apr-12-2002 03:57:

Talking

cheese makes me hallucinate...its sort of a kind of drug...it can KILLLLL U!....beware of cheese...


Posted by torontotrance on Apr-12-2002 04:05:

Smile

damnit...where is my cheese grater


Posted by Tsunami One on Apr-12-2002 04:23:

I think Green Velvet - La La Land is a prime example of taking the $$$ and running. The song would be nothing without the sample , ppl are gonna like not because of the beats but because of the sample.


Posted by Damo on Apr-12-2002 04:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Tsunami One
I think Green Velvet - La La Land is a prime example of taking the $$$ and running. The song would be nothing without the sample and i dislike it cause ppl are gonna like not because of the beats but because of the sample.


uh, yeah. it's a funny song. I wouldn't download it or anything, but I heard it in a car one time after hitting B's and it was the funniest shit ever. We were all singing along.


Posted by Nightmonger on Apr-12-2002 04:32:

Well, a cheesy song in a while can be tolerated (as long as it's WELL made) but hey, what's the feelin in listenin for the first time to a brand new storming TRANCE tune you didn't heard of ? GREAT!


Posted by Tukan on Apr-12-2002 06:13:

I don't think vocals are necessary for a song to be 'cheesy' except the non-vocal songs that are cheesy are usually so bad that they don't even get played on the radio (wow that must be bad) - one exception is ppk - resurrection (this is ok on a chillout cd I have but those bells/xylophone notes (whatever they are) just piss me off in the middle of a break).

PS. That ATC song isn't cheesy - those 'lalalalala's have deep emotional meanings to me..


Posted by Verona^My on Apr-12-2002 07:16:

Yes instrumental music can be cheesy.

And vocals are cheesy if they sound anything like the following :
Britney Spears, Aqua, Vengaboys, DMX, Pink, Eiffel65, Eminem, DBA (dont ask), Spice Girls...........


Posted by Verona^My on Apr-12-2002 07:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Tukan
I don't think vocals are necessary for a song to be 'cheesy' except the non-vocal songs that are cheesy are usually so bad that they don't even get played on the radio (wow that must be bad) - one exception is ppk - resurrection (this is ok on a chillout cd I have but those bells/xylophone notes (whatever they are) just piss me off in the middle of a break).

PS. That ATC song isn't cheesy - those 'lalalalala's have deep emotional meanings to me..


That's ATC's only good song.

the music and vocals are quite nice in fact, unlike Rollergirl's


Posted by failsafe on Apr-12-2002 07:29:

non vocal cheese - ATB

any alice dj dub mixes if they exist (=


Posted by patticus on Apr-12-2002 07:30:

here's a cheese favorite of mine.

dee mark - moonwalker

the ONLY fromage on my hard drive!

well maybe excluding some matt darey, lost witness


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