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Equalize gain during transitions (post production)

Recently I ve noticed gain fluctuations during my transitions (gain droping). The point of this thread is not so much to discuss my mixing technique (explained later) but to find out if there is a good standard way to equilize the gain through out my set, once its recorded.

I use sound forge for post recording. Therefor if anyone can recommend a solution geared towards this application it'd be great.

Now as far as my mixing technique is concerned (I will post my latest demo when I get back home tonight) this is what I've been doing since I first beatmatched:

As opposed to the majority I dont ever touch the volume controllers.
With the cross fader on the playing side, I lower the incoming tracks lows to 9AM, mids from 6 to 11am (depending on the tracks) and the highs to around 9-10AM. While moving the crossfader away from the live track I simultaneously lower the lows and highs until I reach the middle. I then adjust the eqs accordingly to the tracks.

This has worked great for me the past years and I like to think my beatmatches are very close to perfect every time. I just recently started to notice those fluctuations (always on the low end). I guess his isnt that noticeable live, as no one ever mentioned it to me (djs, promoters or dancers). But within soundforge I clearly see a dropout and I hear the difference while listening with good monitors.

Ill post my set tonight. I'm looking forward to reading your suggestions.

I think you just need to learn how to adjust your gains when you're mixing live so your volume is consistent throughout your set.

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Originally posted by RJT I think you just need to learn how to adjust your gains when you're mixing live so your volume is consistent throughout your set.

+1

it's a simple case of volume control

there's no way to equalize the gain of the entire set?

Not with a simple plugin no... you COULD for example increase/decrease the gain/bass/mid/treble of EACH track with computer softwares... i've tried it before and i suck at it... pain in the ass kinda

personally i just monitor both tracks in the headphone, compare and adjust the gain.

Two words mate......Platinum Notes

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Originally posted by gorex there's no way to equalize the gain of the entire set?

To be honest, why wouldn't you want to improve your skills as a DJ and just learn how to do it while you're mixing?



If you have any intention of ever playing out, or using sets for promotional material, you really need to learn how to control your volume.

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Originally posted by RJT To be honest, why wouldn't you want to improve your skills as a DJ and just learn how to do it while you're mixing? If you have any intention of ever playing out, or using sets for promotional material, you really need to learn how to control your volume.

he has a good point

when you're finished recording, your set shouldn't be full of peaks and valleys (loud tracks and quiet tracks), it should be relatively uniform

it is possible to go through and fix it all, but that takes a little more effort than just watching your levels throughout recording

anytime i record a promo mix i watch the levels like a hawk, makes post production a lot easier and quicker

really, you should only have to normalize your mix in post production

the tunes themselves have already been compressed everywhere and mastered

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Originally posted by jacques Two words mate......Platinum Notes

wow, thank you. I will give this a try

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Originally posted by Tony Morello he has a good point when you're finished recording, your set shouldn't be full of peaks and valleys (loud tracks and quiet tracks), it should be relatively uniform it is possible to go through and fix it all, but that takes a little more effort than just watching your levels throughout recording anytime i record a promo mix i watch the levels like a hawk, makes post production a lot easier and quicker really, you should only have to normalize your mix in post production the tunes themselves have already been compressed everywhere and mastered

yeah I see where you're coming from.

the transitions in question are only a fraction of db different. It is hard to tell yet existent.

Regardless, I will definatly seek to improve this area of my mixing. If anyone has any suggestions or tricks for that matter please post.

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Originally posted by gorex yeah I see where you're coming from. the transitions in question are only a fraction of db different. It is hard to tell yet existent. Regardless, I will definatly seek to improve this area of my mixing. If anyone has any suggestions or tricks for that matter please post.

use your ears, the vu meters on your mixer and stop using the crossfader.

It really depends on how much the volume drops. In my experience the best thing (after mixing it well to begin with) is to use a hard limiter in post production. Adobe Audition has a great one.

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