TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Political Discussion / Debate
-- American spy terror war on Iran
American spy terror war on Iran
| quote: |
| Bush okayed 'soft revolution' in Iran May. 26, 2007 8:24 | Updated May. 26, 2007 11:38 By JPOST.COM STAFF The US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) received presidential approval for a covert operation in Iran aimed at destabilizing the Islamic Republic by "non-lethal" means, ABC news reported early Saturday morning. According to the report, the plan includes several non-military measures by which the US could deeply harm the Iranian economy through global measures while simultaneously undermining the regime on a local political level by distributing propaganda and building on an already existing lack of support for the regime among Iranians. Global economic measures would include manipulating currencies and making large-scale monetary transactions which would damage Iranian companies. A commentator pointed "ferment among the students and the intellectuals" of Iran as fertile ground from which propaganda and encouragement towards the local population to overthrow the government could bear fruit. Another avenue explored by the CIA, according to the report, was supporting the Jundullah militia which operates from the Pakistan-Iran border. Jundullah (Army of God in Farsi) is a militant Islamic organization based in Waziristan. The organization, reportedly affiliated with Al-Qaida, is part of the Baloch insurgency in Pakistan as well as in Iran's Sistan and Baluchistan Province. The group claims to represent all Sunnis in Iran, regardless of ethnicity. Jundullah carried out attacks on Iranian forces in the past. The measure of US contact with and support of the Jundullah militia remains unknown. The US administration reportedly approved the 'soft revolution' plan after deeming the overall risks and potential losses involved in overt military action to be greater than the potential gains to be made from such an endeavor. |
| quote: |
| "The enemy of my enemy is my friend," said terrorism expert Neil Livingstone at a news conference in Washington |
| quote: |
| Another organization that carries out cross-border attacks on Iranian villages is the Party for a Free Life in Kurdistan (PJAK), which is supported with equipment and training by Israeli Special Forces. This group receives its �lists of targets inside Iran� from U.S. intelligence services. |
Notice how not only America, but the entire world condemns Iran's regime and their nuclear weapons program. Even the people of Iran themselves are fed up. All you have to do is talk to the numerous Iranian immigrants.
Iran escalates the situation by announcing just a few days ago that they will not stop enrichment but will continue development. Iran is also subverting the US effort to stabilize Iraq. I call that a GROSS escalation. Meanwhile, trying to empower the Iranian people to take freedom for themselves is a bad thing?
I'm glad we sent an additional aircraft carrier now to the Persian Gulf. The US should flex its muscle, and the easiest way to do that is by sea. Iran is playing games, if you havn't seen that already. They say one thing, and do something else. When the US signs a treaty, or makes a declaration, they aren't bullshitting. Iran is doing nothing but bullshitting, not just at the US, but to the world. Showing off US military power shows them that the US is not playing games, and they need to come to their senses.
Now I hope that is the truth about why we even sent an additional aircraft carrier. The alternative would be Bush just wants Iranian oil for Halliburton right
?
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Krypton Notice how not only America, but the entire world condemns Iran's regime and their nuclear weapons program. Even the people of Iran themselves are fed up. All you have to do is talk to the numerous Iranian immigrants. Iran escalates the situation by announcing just a few days ago that they will not stop enrichment but will continue development. Iran is also subverting the US effort to stabilize Iraq. I call that a GROSS escalation. Meanwhile, trying to empower the Iranian people to take freedom for themselves is a bad thing? I'm glad we sent an additional aircraft carrier now to the Persian Gulf. The US should flex its muscle, and the easiest way to do that is by sea. Iran is playing games, if you havn't seen that already. They say one thing, and do something else. When the US signs a treaty, or makes a declaration, they aren't bullshitting. Iran is doing nothing but bullshitting, not just at the US, but to the world. Showing off US military power shows them that the US is not playing games, and they need to come to their senses. Now I hope that is the truth about why we even sent an additional aircraft carrier. The alternative would be Bush just wants Iranian oil for Halliburton right ? |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by hardcore trancer Just exactly how will distabilizing Iran could possibly make any positive influence in the regionthe regin or in your case Iraq? If this is all true,the U.S is creating nothing but more chaos and instability in the region and infact actions like these will make the mullahs wanting to get nukes even more. |
How about this little snippet?
| quote: |
| Iran protests purported U.S. spying Updated 17h 34m ago TEHRAN, Iran (AP) � Iran summoned the Swiss ambassador Sunday to protest U.S. espionage networks recently uncovered in the country, state television reported. The broadcast said Ahmad Sobhani, head of American affairs for the Iranian Foreign Ministry, met with Swiss Ambassador Philippe Welti and demanded "necessary explanation" of U.S. espionage networks Iran announced it had uncovered Saturday. "Recently, several espionage networks were identified that were active, under guidance of the U.S. intelligence apparatus, to commit infiltration and sabotage in western, central and southwestern areas of the country," the television quoted Sobhani as saying during the meeting. The Swiss embassy has been working as the U.S. interest section in Iran ever since Washington broke its diplomatic ties with the country in 1979 when Iranian militant students stormed its embassy in Tehran. The diplomatic protest came a day before an ambassador-level meeting between the U.S. and Iran in Baghdad to discuss the security situation in Iraq. Monday's talks, which both sides say will focus solely on Iraq, are the first of their kind and a small sign that Washington thinks rapprochement is possible after nearly three decades of animosity. Iranian state televison reported Saturday that the country's Intelligence Ministry had "succeeded in identifying and striking blows at several spy networks comprised of infiltrating elements from the Iraqi occupiers in western, southwestern and central Iran," using shorthand for U.S and its allies. The White House said Saturday that it does not confirm or deny allegations about intelligence matters. "We urge Iran to play a positive role in Iraq ... and stop blaming everyone else for problems they are only bringing on themselves," White House deputy press secretary Dana Perino said. Since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, Iran has often accused the United States and Britain of trying to undermine the security of the Islamic Republic. |
you just have to love the US.
nowhere else on this earth would the very covert and clandestine operations be covered ahead of time by the country's press,
both thwarting their efforts and killing those who are currently attempting such operations.

| quote: |
| Originally posted by VAR you just have to love the US. nowhere else on this earth would the very covert and clandestine operations be covered ahead of time by the country's press, both thwarting their efforts and killing those who are currently attempting such operations. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Krypton Bush just wants Iranian oil for Halliburton |
I think journalists should be punished if they publish anything top secret or covert. These missions are obviously covert.
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Krypton I think journalists should be punished if they publish anything top secret or covert. These missions are obviously covert. |
| quote: |
| Originally posted by Krypton Notice how not only America, but the entire world condemns Iran's regime and their nuclear weapons program. Even the people of Iran themselves are fed up. All you have to do is talk to the numerous Iranian immigrants. Iran escalates the situation by announcing just a few days ago that they will not stop enrichment but will continue development. Iran is also subverting the US effort to stabilize Iraq. I call that a GROSS escalation. Meanwhile, trying to empower the Iranian people to take freedom for themselves is a bad thing? I'm glad we sent an additional aircraft carrier now to the Persian Gulf. The US should flex its muscle, and the easiest way to do that is by sea. Iran is playing games, if you havn't seen that already. They say one thing, and do something else. When the US signs a treaty, or makes a declaration, they aren't bullshitting. Iran is doing nothing but bullshitting, not just at the US, but to the world. Showing off US military power shows them that the US is not playing games, and they need to come to their senses. Now I hope that is the truth about why we even sent an additional aircraft carrier. The alternative would be Bush just wants Iranian oil for Halliburton right ? |

| quote: |
| The UN nuclear chief IAEA Mohamed ElBaradei says that Iran should be allowed to keep some uranium enrichment, diplomats have said. |
| quote: |
| Iranians celebrate anniversary of Islamic revolution Sunday, February 11, 2007 by AFP TEHRAN, Feb 11, 2007 (AFP) - Proclaiming "nuclear energy is our natural right" and "death to America," hundreds of thousands of Iranians took to the streets of Tehran Sunday in a show of support for the Islamic revolution. The annual event always sees an outpouring of revolutionary and anti-Western slogans, but with Iran under mounting international pressure over its nuclear programme, this year's celebration took on a distinctively atomic tinge. The demonstrators, ranging from toddlers in push-chairs to pensioners with walking sticks, carried placards and posters to celebrate both the 28th anniversary of the Islamic revolution and Iran's nuclear technology. Iranian postal services took a creative approach to issue, handing out blank aerogrammes which the faithful were to fill in and then hand back for free postage to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon in New York as part of a mass petition. "Equal rights of all nations in using and implementing peaceful nuclear energy," was the slogan at the foot of the aerogramme which demonstrators and the faithful were urged to complete. "Achieving indigenous nuclear science is an epoch-making and civilization building move," was another slogan on a placard bearing the face of supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei that was handed out to the crowds. The words on a billboard showing President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad read: "The Iranian nation will defend its nuclear right with all its power." There was a festive spirit at the event, with children clutching balloons emblazoned with the slogan of the revolution "freedom, independence and Islamic republic." There was also a display of kite-flying and many youths waved toys inscribed with the now familiar phrase: "Nuclear energy is our undeniable right." A 22,000 strong Iranian Basij (volunteer militia) students chorus gathered in Tehran's main Azadi (freedom) square and sang the revolutionary hymn "My Country" before the keynote speech by Ahmadinejad. Many of the demonstrators were school-age children or elderly civil servants but there was also a strong family presence as well. Tehran's conservative-dominated municipality distributed "cultural material" ranging from children's story books telling the story of the 1979 revolution to caricatures of US President George W. Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and British Prime Minister Tony Blair. Homemade effigies of Bush, Uncle Sam and the Statue of Liberty were very popular and ranged from those made with an impressive degree of artistry to less sophisticated efforts. Similar rallies in support of the revolution were taking place up and down the country and state television showed thousands crowding the streets in other major cities like Mashhad, Isfahan and Hamedan. Iran has refused to give in to international demands that it suspend sensitive uranium enrichment activities, which the West fears could be used to make a nuclear bomb. The Islamic republic insists that its nuclear drive is solely aimed at generating energy and it has every right to the full nuclear fuel cycle. |
| quote: |
| US funds terror groups to sow chaos in Iran By William Lowther in Washington DC and Colin Freeman, Sunday Telegraph Last Updated: 12:30am GMT 25/02/2007 America is secretly funding militant ethnic separatist groups in Iran in an attempt to pile pressure on the Islamic regime to give up its nuclear programme. In a move that reflects Washington's growing concern with the failure of diplomatic initiatives, CIA officials are understood to be helping opposition militias among the numerous ethnic minority groups clustered in Iran's border regions. The operations are controversial because they involve dealing with movements that resort to terrorist methods in pursuit of their grievances against the Iranian regime. In the past year there has been a wave of unrest in ethnic minority border areas of Iran, with bombing and assassination campaigns against soldiers and government officials. Such incidents have been carried out by the Kurds in the west, the Azeris in the north-west, the Ahwazi Arabs in the south-west, and the Baluchis in the south-east. Non-Persians make up nearly 40 per cent of Iran's 69 million population, with around 16 million Azeris, seven million Kurds, five million Ahwazis and one million Baluchis. Most Baluchis live over the border in Pakistan. Funding for their separatist causes comes directly from the CIA's classified budget but is now "no great secret", according to one former high-ranking CIA official in Washington who spoke anonymously to The Sunday Telegraph. His claims were backed by Fred Burton, a former US state department counter-terrorism agent, who said: "The latest attacks inside Iran fall in line with US efforts to supply and train Iran's ethnic minorities to destabilise the Iranian regime." Although Washington officially denies involvement in such activity, Teheran has long claimed to detect the hand of both America and Britain in attacks by guerrilla groups on its internal security forces. Last Monday, Iran publicly hanged a man, Nasrollah Shanbe Zehi, for his involvement in a bomb attack that killed 11 Revolutionary Guards in the city of Zahedan in Sistan-Baluchistan. An unnamed local official told the semi-official Fars news agency that weapons used in the attack were British and US-made. Yesterday, Iranian forces also claimed to have killed 17 rebels described as "mercenary elements" in clashes near the Turkish border, which is a stronghold of the Pejak, a Kurdish militant party linked to Turkey's outlawed PKK Kurdistan Workers' Party. John Pike, the head of the influential Global Security think tank in Washington, said: "The activities of the ethnic groups have hotted up over the last two years and it would be a scandal if that was not at least in part the result of CIA activity." Such a policy is fraught with risk, however. Many of the groups share little common cause with Washington other than their opposition to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose regime they accuse of stepping up repression of minority rights and culture. The Baluchistan-based Brigade of God group, which last year kidnapped and killed eight Iranian soldiers, is a volatile Sunni organisation that many fear could easily turn against Washington after taking its money. A row has also broken out in Washington over whether to "unleash" the military wing of the Mujahedeen-e Khalq (MEK), an Iraq-based Iranian opposition group with a long and bloody history of armed opposition to the Iranian regime. The group is currently listed by the US state department as terrorist organisation, but Mr Pike said: "A faction in the Defence Department wants to unleash them. They could never overthrow the current Iranian regime but they might cause a lot of damage." At present, none of the opposition groups are much more than irritants to Teheran, but US analysts believe that they could become emboldened if the regime was attacked by America or Israel. Such a prospect began to look more likely last week, as the UN Security Council deadline passed for Iran to stop its uranium enrichment programme, and a second American aircraft carrier joined the build up of US naval power off Iran's southern coastal waters. The US has also moved six heavy bombers from a British base on the Pacific island of Diego Garcia to the Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar, which could allow them to carry out strikes on Iran without seeking permission from Downing Street. While Tony Blair reiterated last week that Britain still wanted a diplomatic solution to the crisis, US Vice-President Dick Cheney yesterday insisted that military force was a real possibility. "It would be a serious mistake if a nation like Iran were to become a nuclear power," Mr Cheney warned during a visit to Australia. "All options are still on the table." The five permanent members of the UN Security Council plus Germany will meet in London tomorrow to discuss further punitive measures against Iran. Sanctions barring the transfer of nuclear technology and know-how were imposed in December. Additional penalties might include a travel ban on senior Iranian officials and restrictions on non-nuclear business. Additional reporting by Gethin Chamberlain. |
| quote: |
| Swiss told to stay out of Iran nuclear crisis May 20, 2007 - 1:58 PM The former American ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton, has called the so-called "Swiss plan" to end the Iranian nuclear standoff "farcical". Bolton warned that Switzerland would be better off keeping its nose out of the current crisis between Tehran and the West over Iran's enrichment of uranium. In an interview with the "Sonntagszeitung" newspaper, he said the Swiss proposal � which has never been confirmed by the foreign ministry � was nothing more than an illusion. The plan, according to media reports and diplomatic sources, calls for a simultaneous suspension of Iran's uranium enrichment programme and international sanctions. This would then allow for proper negotiations between Tehran and the five permanent members of the UN Security Council as well as Germany. But many observers said this might not happen. International sanctions have already been slapped on Iran by many countries, including Switzerland, for breaching the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and failed to dent the Islamic Republic's resolve. Bolton reckoned that if the Iranians had any interest in a plan, it would only be to buy some time by negotiating. The biggest fear for many observers is that Iran will use its nuclear programme to develop its own atomic bomb. Some specialists say that the Iranians have mastered the technology for uranium enrichment and could produce enough fissile material needed for a nuclear warhead by next year. Old plan Bolton, a leading neo-conservative figure of the Bush administration, said the Swiss plan had already been peddled for some time by the former Swiss ambassador in Teheran, Tim Guldimann. Bolton added that Guldimann had demonstrated so much anti-American prejudice that Washington had seriously considered asking another country to represent its interests in Iran. Switzerland has represented the US in Tehran since 1979, and Guldimann was there between 1999 and 2004. The former American diplomat said that he hoped the proposal was not a Swiss government project. There have been a number of meetings between Swiss and Iranian officials in recent months. Earlier this month, the head of the foreign ministry's Middle East division, Livia Leu Agosti met the Iranian foreign minister, Manouchehr Mottaki, on the sidelines of an international conference in the Egyptian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh. Swiss secretary of state Michael Amb�hl also travelled to Teheran in February for talks, a few days after his boss, Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey, discussed the crisis in Bern with Ali Larijani, Iran's chief nuclear negotiator. Officially, there has been no discussion of a Swiss plan, only that Switzerland has reminded Tehran that it would prefer a diplomatic outcome to the crisis. But according to Iranian media reports, Mottaki did show some interest in a Swiss proposal before rejecting the idea this month. |
Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.