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China Gaining in Military Might The Chinese Foreign Ministry reacted angrily yesterday to a report published by the U.S. Defense Department on the growing military power of China. Beijing's harsh reaction is in part due to the obstacle the report presents to China's renewal of relations with NATO and its efforts to end a European weapons embargo against it. China also suspects that the report will be used as justification for the placement of an antiballistic system along its eastern shore, including in Taiwan. Beijing sees Moscow as a natural ally in its efforts to counteract the United States. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Jiang Yu said that "The U.S. Defense Department's report exaggerates China's military expenditures out of ulterior motives and continues to disseminate the China threat' theory.� That 50-page document was presented by Pentagon chief Robert Gates on Friday. It is the seventh annual report prepared by the U.S. Defense Department. It criticizes China mainly for the growth of defense spending there. A 17.8-percent increase in military spending was approved this year in China and Beijing is officially spending $46 billion on it army this year. The real sum of expenditures on the army may by two or three times greater than the official budget. Last year's report emphasized Chinese imports of Russian weapons. This year, new developments in the Chinese military-industrial complex are mentioned. China tested an anti-satellite missile in January and has developed mobile nuclear missiles and a new class of Jin submarine with nuclear missiles that are capable of threatening targets in the U.S. The timing of the report is particularly bad for China since it and NATO renewed a dialog last week, for the first time since 1999, when the Chinese embassy in Belgrade was bombed. NATO took the initiative in restoring those relations, and its offer was quickly accepted. China acknowledges that relations with NATO are a necessary step in overcoming a European embargo on arms sales to the country imposed after the events on Tiananmen Square in 1989. Russia has sold China mainly weapons based on Soviet models, and not the most modern technology. Therefore, removal of the European embargo is a primary goal for China.

China Gaining in Military Might


It's so funny to see the US trying to stick their nose into everything that has a hole inside.

Too bad, they don't have any leverage on China, 'cause they are so dependand on them. That's why they prefer to keep their mouth shut.

(I just compare the attitude they have towards Russia to one they have to China)

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Originally posted by star-traveller China Gaining in Military Might It's so funny to see the US trying to stick their nose into everything that has a hole inside. Too bad, they don't have any leverage on China, 'cause they are so dependand on them. That's why they prefer to keep their mouth shut. (I just compare the attitude they have towards Russia to one they have to China)

I am worried for you.. you need to seek help or this obsesion with your anti-US POVs will eat your heart up...

I will pray for you commrad...

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Originally posted by LazFX I am worried for you.. you need to seek help or this obsesion with your anti-US POVs will eat your heart up... I will pray for you commrad...

Than explain me please, why the US uses such a polite tone to talk about any problems in China and such a harsh scream (for example criticts by Cock Cheney) when something is happening in Russia?

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Originally posted by star-traveller Than explain me please, why the US uses such a polite tone to talk about any problems in China and such a harsh scream (for example criticts by Cock Cheney) when something is happening in Russia?

cause children are to be seen and not heard......

and who is cock cheney, is that the same as big hairy puss_y putin??

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Originally posted by star-traveller Than explain me please, why the US uses such a polite tone to talk about any problems in China and such a harsh scream (for example criticts by Cock Cheney) when something is happening in Russia?

we talk politely with China because we are fighting a new cold war with them. we have been for years. it's something not a lot of people talk about or even aware of but it's happening as we speak.

we have made pledges and they have made pledges regarding the welfare of Taiwan. thats not to say things won't blow up over there, but we have made certain obligations and react to what they [China] are doing militarily.

when have we screamed about Russia in a manner that we don't about China?

Current US invasions of several countries in recent past has obviously lead to new arms race.. every country wants to protect itself from US direct or indirect invasion.

That's correct. With a new US intention to place interceptor missles in Eastern Europe, they're sparking a new arms race.

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Russia tests long-range missile Russia has test-launched a new intercontinental ballistic missile, Russian military officials say. The launch took place at the Plesetsk cosmodrome in northern Russia at 1420 (1020 GMT) on Tuesday. The missile, called RS-24, can be armed with up to 10 warheads and was designed to evade missile defence systems, the Russian defence ministry says. Russia has complained that US plans to base parts of an anti-missile system in central Europe threaten its security. The Americans maintain that their system is not directed at the Russians. The US wants to deploy interceptor rockets in Poland and a radar base in the Czech Republic to counter what it describes as a potential threat from "rogue states" such as Iran and North Korea. The Russian test missile successfully struck its target 5,500km (3,400 miles) away on the far eastern Kamchatka peninsula, the Russian Strategic Missile Forces said. The statement said the missile would replace two ageing ICBM systems - the RS-18 and RS-20, known in the West as the SS-19 Stiletto and SS-18 Satan, respectively. Modernising arsenal Our world affairs correspondent Paul Reynolds says the Russian missile test has more to do with Russia's plans to modernise its nuclear force than its complaints about the proposed US missile defence shield in Europe, which US officials say could not intercept Russian missiles. Of particular concern to Russia is the treaty between the US and the then Soviet Union that banned intermediate range nuclear weapons, he writes. This treaty is still in force and applies only to the US and Russia. Russian First Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov, quoted by Reuters on Tuesday, said the deployment of medium- and short-range missiles by Russia's neighbours to the east and south now posed a "real threat". "The Soviet-American treaty (on intermediate nuclear forces) is not effective because since (its signature) scores of countries have appeared that have such missiles, while Russia and the United States are not allowed to have them," he told a military-industrial commission in the southern city of Znamensk. "In these conditions, it is necessary to provide our troops with modern, high-precision weapons."

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How many times do I have to say this?

In order to be considered a super-power you must at least be able to provide food for half of your population. Russia can't do this. so regardless of whatever missles they are making. It means nothing as long as their people are poor and starving. Which the majority are both.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid How many times do I have to say this? In order to be considered a super-power you must at least be able to provide food for half of your population. Russia can't do this. so regardless of whatever missles they are making. It means nothing as long as their people are poor and starving. Which the majority are both.

You must be jAWking. Russia is providing food for more than half of its own population.


Here is one example for you:

http://www.agroru.com/cgi-bin/news_show.pl?article=5667

It's in Russian.

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Originally posted by star-traveller You must be jAWking. Russia is providing food for more than half of its own population. Here is one example for you: http://www.agroru.com/cgi-bin/news_show.pl?article=5667 It's in Russian.

Than start translating it.

But than it still has a long way to go to making it's people rich.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Than start translating it.

I'm not in a response for your ganch.

You said something I provided you with a proof that it's a bullshit.

Until you can proof otherwise I'll be calling you a Gossiping Nanny.

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Originally posted by star-traveller I'm not in a response for your ganch. You said something I provided you with a proof that it's a bullshit. Until that I'll call you a Gossiping Nanny.

Well sweatheart. The days are over when Russia was considered important. It isn't and never will be. China is the power the US is concerned with most because they pose a greater threat than you drunken robbing Russians.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Well sweatheart. The days are over when Russia was considered important. It isn't and never will be. China is the power the US is concerned with most because they pose a greater threat than you drunken robbing Russians.

Tell it to the guys who build rockets that fly 10.000km and are immune to any missle defence system.

Gossiping Nany.

ps.
I bet you can swallow a basketball ball with your mouth.

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Originally posted by star-traveller Tell it to the guys who build rockets that fly 10.000km and are immune to any missle defence system. Gossiping Nany. ps. I bet you can swallow a basketball ball with your mouth.

Well at least I can't swallor an entire building like you can.

china has the largest army in the world, they could beat us with sticks and stones if they charged all at once.

Their military is much more fearsome now that they've armed all EMS workers..

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Originally posted by Marc Summers china has the largest army in the world, they could beat us with sticks and stones if they charged all at once.

BS.

We have metalstorm.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers china has the largest army in the world, they could beat us with sticks and stones if they charged all at once.

I guess the number doesn't really matter. 99% of it might die after a single nuclear blast. Otherwise they would have already conquered the world twice.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid BS. We have metalstorm.

Since when Mexico has any sophisticated weapon technology?

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Originally posted by star-traveller China Gaining in Military Might It's so funny to see the US trying to stick their nose into everything that has a hole inside. Too bad, they don't have any leverage on China, 'cause they are so dependand on them. That's why they prefer to keep their mouth shut. (I just compare the attitude they have towards Russia to one they have to China)

Uhh, China is just as dependant on us as we are of them. Both countries have billions upon billions invested in each others country. Each one has leverage in the other. That is why we had a meeting to discuss the TRADE DEFICIT. I wouldn't call that keeping our mouths shut.

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Originally posted by Krypton Uhh, China is just as dependant on us as we are of them. Both countries have billions upon billions invested in each others country. Each one has leverage in the other. That is why we had a meeting to discuss the TRADE DEFICIT. I wouldn't call that keeping our mouths shut.

I don't think so. China owns most of the US debt. China produces a lot of the products the US imports. China produces a lot of the products US based companies export. Star-traveller has a point, China has past the point were the US has any influence on it. Sure it has some dependence on the US, as any other country. I would not, however, characterize the dependence as symmetrical though.

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I would. Both countries would be strongly affected if either one stopped trading

China does need that trade surplus with US to fuel its war machine.

In a way, China needs US more than US needs China. US can turn to other nations for products.

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