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Posted by mnemonic. on May-31-2007 05:12:

Accuracy of Mixmeister BPM Analyzer?

so i downlaoded mixmeister's free BPM analyzer from here and used a calculator and figured out what percentage i would need to adjust my CDJ 800 pitch sliders to in order to change the tempo and match the tracks, to my surprise it worked quite well, it needed a little nudge of the jog ring every 10-12 seconds or so, but if i had the 0.02 pitch increments i think that would have been reduced.

anyways, i was experimenting with it to test its accuracy myself and just wanted to ask, did anyone else who has tried this software experience the same results or same accuracy?

how accurate is it really?


Posted by RJT on May-31-2007 05:16:

It's pretty accurate.

I've occasionally used it to edit track BPM's and it's seemed sufficiently accurate to me.


Posted by Pinokio on May-31-2007 13:07:

Trust that BPM Analyzer.
I have get the BPM of over 1000 Tunes, and only 2 of them got wrong.

Accuracy = 99.9%

Good Luck
=)


Posted by agentdansmith on May-31-2007 13:15:

Is this the same BPM analyser that's used withing Mixmeister Studio?


Posted by Pinokio on May-31-2007 13:44:

quote:
Originally posted by agentdansmith
Is this the same BPM analyser that's used withing Mixmeister Studio?

I guess it's the same
if not, he can get the fully-functional trial version, which will insert a demo message into completed mixes every few minutes (buying the full version will remove these messages). That's it, if you are nto using it for mixing or recording, it will do everything you need form the software.
http://www.mixmeister.com/download_mmfus7.html


Posted by david.michael on May-31-2007 14:02:

Seems pretty accurate to me.


Posted by agentdansmith on May-31-2007 14:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Pinokio
I guess it's the same
if not, he can get the fully-functional trial version, which will insert a demo message into completed mixes every few minutes (buying the full version will remove these messages). That's it, if you are nto using it for mixing or recording, it will do everything you need form the software.
http://www.mixmeister.com/download_mmfus7.html



Nice one, I was just curious.

I only Mixmeister to get the key of my tracks.


Posted by RJT on May-31-2007 14:42:

quote:
Originally posted by agentdansmith

I only Mixmeister to get the key of my tracks.


Don't. It's wrong about 60% of the time.

Keying by hand is the best route, but if you're going to use software, Rapid Evolution is FAR more accurate (and also checks a database of keys online), and it's free.

MixMeister is really, really shit at detecting keys.


Posted by agentdansmith on May-31-2007 14:51:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Don't. It's wrong about 60% of the time.

Keying by hand is the best route, but if you're going to use software, Rapid Evolution is FAR more accurate (and also checks a database of keys online), and it's free.

MixMeister is really, really shit at detecting keys.


Don't say that now... I've labelled up about 60 tracks with the key codes

I did try Rapid first, but I didn't quite understand how it worked - it wasn't very clear as to what to do.

What about Mixed in Key - that any good?


Posted by Import on May-31-2007 14:51:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Don't. It's wrong about 60% of the time.

Keying by hand is the best route, but if you're going to use software, Rapid Evolution is FAR more accurate (and also checks a database of keys online), and it's free.

MixMeister is really, really shit at detecting keys.


Good to know, i'll check that out when i get home


Posted by RJT on May-31-2007 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by agentdansmith
Don't say that now... I've labelled up about 60 tracks with the key codes

I did try Rapid first, but I didn't quite understand how it worked - it wasn't very clear as to what to do.

What about Mixed in Key - that any good?


I think RE is the most accurate of them all, especially because it checks a database that is corrected by people.

You just drag your tracks into the main window, right click, choose "Detect" and "Key"



Not that hard to re-key!


Posted by mnemonic. on May-31-2007 15:18:

thanks for the responses guys !

at first i was thinking "why is it giving me such even numbers?" i would get results like 126.00, 125.00, 125.99 and so on...but then i thought, when a producer is making a track, dont the usually set the BPM at an even number anyways? why on earth would anyone find it necessary to begin making a track at 124.8972 BPM :P ? when i realized that then it all fell into place and i started to trust ts accuracy.


Posted by david.michael on May-31-2007 15:20:

quote:
Originally posted by MikeyN
thanks for the responses guys !

at first i was thinking "why is it giving me such even numbers?" i would get results like 126.00, 125.00, 125.99 and so on...but then i thought, when a producer is making a track, dont the usually set the BPM at an even number anyways? why on earth would anyone find it necessary to begin making a track at 124.8972 BPM :P ? when i realized that then it all fell into place and i started to trust ts accuracy.


Yes. You've gotta realize that even if the producer sets an even BPM, however, that if the file you're detecting from was ripped from vinyl, etc. that it may not be so perfect.


Posted by agentdansmith on May-31-2007 15:23:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
I think RE is the most accurate of them all, especially because it checks a database that is corrected by people.

You just drag your tracks into the main window, right click, choose "Detect" and "Key"



Not that hard to re-key!


If I remember rightly, there are two windows in RE (top and bottom). Which one is the main window?

Also, does RE catalog all our tunes with the Key clearly visible? That's something that I really like about Mixmeister.


Posted by RJT on May-31-2007 15:36:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
Yes. You've gotta realize that even if the producer sets an even BPM, however, that if the file you're detecting from was ripped from vinyl, etc. that it may not be so perfect.


Also, not every track is made in Cubase or Ableton or whatever where you're physically setting a BPM - so some tunes might actually be at 125.4321343242 - hence why you beatmatch with your ears and not your eyes.

quote:
Originally posted by agentdansmith
If I remember rightly, there are two windows in RE (top and bottom). Which one is the main window?

Also, does RE catalog all our tunes with the Key clearly visible? That's something that I really like about Mixmeister.


Mine only has one window, and it's clear that's where the tracks go...

And yeah, the BPM, the Key, and some other info are all clearly displayed.


Posted by Import on May-31-2007 15:58:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Also, not every track is made in Cubase or Ableton or whatever where you're physically setting a BPM - so some tunes might actually be at 125.4321343242 - hence why you beatmatch with your ears and not your eyes.



Mine only has one window, and it's clear that's where the tracks go...

And yeah, the BPM, the Key, and some other info are all clearly displayed.


Hows thier bpm counter compared to that of mixmiester then?


Posted by RJT on May-31-2007 16:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Import
Hows thier bpm counter compared to that of mixmiester then?


I don't know, I don't use it. Sorry m8.

The only time BPM is really of any concern to me is when I'm editing tracks, otherwise I beatmatch by ear.


Posted by Allayla on May-31-2007 16:38:

Mixmeister is indeed horrible for key detection, but good for bpm's... RE is far more acurate for keys, but every once in awhile its wrong.



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