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Posted by shompton on Apr-12-2002 21:07:

Battle Position?

I recieved my turntables as a gift and along with them a battle coffin, so I naturally had to learn with a battle setup. I just started to realize this might actually make mixing trance harder give the fact that the pitch slider is so far away from my and I have to reach over the tone arm to get to it. Does anyone else have their tables setup this way? Do you think I should go through the hassle of reconfiguring my room and get my decks setup the "regular way"?

Posted by hapamoto on Apr-12-2002 21:42:

i learned the regular position and my coffin is set up as regular.. but when i mix live we use my friend's tables because they are newer (not that it makes a difference cos techs will never die) and they always set up in battle position but its not a big deal.. so you have to reach a little farther, this really shouldn't affect your abilities so don't worry about it

Posted by Xquisite on Apr-12-2002 23:16:

I first learned how to mix in regular position. But as I was inspired to scratch and do some hip hop.. i am too lazy to change my turntable positions when I practice trance. So i've been working with the battle position for a while. Reaching for the slider is not that big of a deal unless you're one of those few who get irked by the smallest things in the world :thumb:

Posted by Mark on Apr-12-2002 23:19:

i'm confused. what is battle position?

Posted by ingentis on Apr-12-2002 23:37:

quote:
Originally posted by M.A.R.K
i'm confused. what is battle position?

i had this same question today, its when the turn table is facing the oppisite direction, so the tone arm isnt at your right but infront of you

Posted by DJ A.i on Apr-13-2002 03:48:

yea... battle position is used for the scratch DJ's who do a lot of scratchiing!

Posted by quddha on Apr-13-2002 05:19:

i had my decks in battle position for a while, to save space in my dorm room...

the plus side is that its easy to cue up and manipulate the vinyl, because the tonearm is outta the way.

the downside is the pitch is far to reach. I have it back in conventional style, cuz I like to reach my pitch, and i have nimble hands that won't hit the tonearm. I try to teach my girlfriend how to beatmatch and stuff, and she always knocks the tonearm when she cue's up. hehe..

Posted by Bear4569 on Apr-13-2002 07:26:

Battle Position

Battle position is when the tables are sideways and the pitch fader is farthest from you. I learned in the regular position, and I find that to be the easiest, and when spinnin trance(which you should be ) it makes it much easier to have the pitch fader closet to you. But with DJing, you do it the way that makes you comfortable and works best for you.

Peas,
Bear

Posted by Scorchio on Apr-13-2002 09:58:

I think you can set them to battle position and have the pitch slider vertically instaed of the horizonally.

Posted by DJTJ on Apr-13-2002 12:55:

Errr... No you can't. By definition, battle position means the turntable is turned 90 degrees counter-clockwise, so the pitch control and tonearm are at the top, and are horizontal.

Posted by Great Outdoors on Apr-13-2002 16:31:

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Originally posted by DJTJ
Errr... No you can't. By definition, battle position means the turntable is turned 90 degrees counter-clockwise, so the pitch control and tonearm are at the top, and are horizontal.

Pitch slider on the top? Man that's going to make things so much harder than it already is already, isn't it? I mean, you will really have to be careful not to knock on the tonearm. In club conditions that could be costly..

Posted by Spin Doctor on Apr-13-2002 17:27:

Scorchio is right in a way. You can get decks that are designed to go in the battle position but have a vertical pitch slider. I believe Vestax make these decks.

Posted by Great Outdoors on Apr-13-2002 17:34:

The Numark TTXs have a variable pitch slider function. i wonder if they'll be any good when used in a battle position.

Posted by nils on Apr-13-2002 18:08:

i've learnd to DJ in battle position,
but i prefer the normal position. looks more powerful that way and
feels better

Posted by Xquisite on Apr-14-2002 01:23:

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Pitch slider on the top? Man that's going to make things so much harder than it already is already, isn't it? I mean, you will really have to be careful not to knock on the tonearm.

well instead of reaching straight for the pitch slider, u just curve your arm around the tone arm to reach for the slider. It's not really that big of a deal unless you're a midget and u cant reach that far.

Posted by sot on Apr-14-2002 02:02:

hehe yea..my turntables are in a battle position. I'm more comfortable and adjusted to it. I also have no choice b/c my coffin is a battle coffin.

Posted by shompton on Apr-14-2002 02:10:

Exactly, I spin out of my coffin so if I continue to I have to stick with the battle setup, however, after watching Judge Jules live and video of Armin and PvD, I've seen them all correct the pitch on the fly as they mix, and it's alot harder to do that with a battle setup. I just wonder if it's beneficial to do without the coffin and just use it for transport and learn to mix and adjust on the fly or not. What do you guys think?

Posted by DJ LIQUID on Apr-14-2002 04:24:

battle position =

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Posted by Great Outdoors on Apr-14-2002 10:25:

Sorry if I sound like a jerk but I can't see 2) properly, and 1), 3) and 4) look the same to me. Correct me please?