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Posted by R.j. on Jun-07-2007 04:25:

Importance in DJ'ing

So, as a DJ, what do you feel is the most important aspect of it all?


- pleasing the crowd?
- smooth mixing?
- track selection?
- advanced dj'ing (looping, effects, etc.)?
- anything else I obviously missed

I don't if this makes any sense, but if it did, I'd have to choose 'pleasing the crowd' first and fore-most.


Posted by chris harrington on Jun-07-2007 04:42:

Re: Importance in DJ'ing

quote:
Originally posted by R.j.

- track selection



i think is the most important


Posted by theognis1002 on Jun-07-2007 04:49:

making the crowd dance


which can encompass all of those :-P


Posted by Freqnasty on Jun-07-2007 05:02:

you need to have a good look at the crowd and capture them (Spiritualy) in the palm of your hands and apply your wisdom in the decks, technicaly everything should come to play


Posted by dark_Omens on Jun-07-2007 05:06:

Re: Importance in DJ'ing

quote:
Originally posted by R.j.
- pleasing the crowd?


If the crowd is happy, the chances are that you have been playing decent tracks, and been mixing smoothly (or there is a drink special that night )


Posted by Zild on Jun-07-2007 05:29:

Most of the time the crowd sucks so fuck em. But I guess that has more to do with picking your gigs wisely.

I always say track selection, track selection, track selection.


Posted by Allayla on Jun-07-2007 06:25:

Re: Importance in DJ'ing

quote:
Originally posted by R.j.
- smooth mixing
- track selection


Posted by Transfusion on Jun-07-2007 07:34:

Doing a Jesus pose must be a part of each dj's set.


Posted by Spoonz on Jun-07-2007 07:53:

track selection

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playing tracks u know will work well together, hopefully will bring smooth mixing naturally and "rock the crowd" at the same time


Posted by DjWoody on Jun-07-2007 08:57:

Pleasing the crowd.


Posted by montana on Jun-07-2007 09:39:

i have said this plenty of times but i'm saying it again, track selection goes before mixing.

you can have the smoothest mixing skills ever (even to a digweed level) but if your trackselection is bad, your mixing isn't going help you one bit.


Posted by the_gamemaster on Jun-07-2007 14:08:

Pleasing the crowd is the most important by far, and make it look like your'e enjoying yourself, don't just stand there mixing with your head down the whole time ignoring the crowd.

After that comes track selection, which is important for pleasing the crowd. Don't try to educate them by playing progressive or minimal tracks if all the crowd want to do is shout 'choon!' and wave their hands in the air, because it won't work.
Your mixing doesn't need to be smooth, as long as it sounds good and keeps the crowd dancing, its a good mix.


Posted by Allied Nations on Jun-07-2007 14:09:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
i have said this plenty of times but i'm saying it again, track selection goes before mixing.

you can have the smoothest mixing skills ever (even to a digweed level) but if your trackselection is bad, your mixing isn't going help you one bit.


yep.


Posted by Alex on Jun-07-2007 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
i have said this plenty of times but i'm saying it again, track selection goes before mixing.

you can have the smoothest mixing skills ever (even to a digweed level) but if your trackselection is bad, your mixing isn't going help you one bit.


I agree.

On the other hand it's an insult to the people there if you show up and fuck up your mixing cause you don't give a shit about it.


Posted by DjWoody on Jun-07-2007 19:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Alex
I agree.

On the other hand it's an insult to the people there if you show up and fuck up your mixing cause you don't give a shit about it.


Not if you're Oakenfold. Shit, if you're him, you can eject the song in the middle of your mix and no one will care. They will cheer!!!




Posted by I_Am_Vince on Jun-07-2007 19:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Transfusion
Doing a Jesus pose must be a part of each dj's set.


I couldn't agree more, DJ's like Tiesto, Armin, etc. have became successful due to this act alone lol.


Posted by jupiterone on Jun-07-2007 20:06:

Pleasing the crowd/track selection basically goes hand in hand


Posted by Boomer187 on Jun-07-2007 20:16:

Re: Importance in DJ'ing

quote:
Originally posted by R.j.

- pleasing the crowd? - 55%
- smooth mixing? - 23%
- track selection? - 20%
- advanced dj'ing (looping, effects, etc.)? - 2%




maybe????


I think pleasing the crowd is #1, but you gotta have smooth / semi-smooth mixing to keep it going, and dead tracks just kill the vibe.


Posted by Yohan on Jun-07-2007 20:25:

track selection which to me also incls reading the crowd. adjust your track selection according to what the crowd is feeling


Posted by montana on Jun-07-2007 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Alex
I agree.

On the other hand it's an insult to the people there if you show up and fuck up your mixing cause you don't give a shit about it.


well, fatboy slim & nick warren are terrible at mixing, but are where they are today because they have good trackselection.


Posted by Project-K on Jun-07-2007 20:40:

track selection 100%, everything else is just bonus. I'd rather hear a DJ who plays good tracks and doesn't mix them at all than one who mixes flawlessly and plays crap.


Posted by Freqnasty on Jun-07-2007 21:34:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
well, fatboy slim & nick warren are terrible at mixing, but are where they are today because they have good trackselection.


Nonsense, fatboy slim has more remixes than the artists mentioned in this thread. Their works in the studio got them more popularity then their dj sets, for example if you have a track then send it to the labels, it gets signed hence your famous.

quote:
Originally posted by montana
i have said this plenty of times but i'm saying it again, track selection goes before mixing.

you can have the smoothest mixing skills ever (even to a digweed level) but if your trackselection is bad, your mixing isn't going help you one bit.


Wrong, if you have a great track selection but you can't mix if ur life depended on it, what good is the beasty tracklist?

quote:
Originally posted by the_gamemaster
Pleasing the crowd is the most important by far, and make it look like your'e enjoying yourself, don't just stand there mixing with your head down the whole time ignoring the crowd.

After that comes track selection, which is important for pleasing the crowd. Don't try to educate them by playing progressive or minimal tracks if all the crowd want to do is shout 'choon!' and wave their hands in the air, because it won't work.
Your mixing doesn't need to be smooth, as long as it sounds good and keeps the crowd dancing, its a good mix.


pleasing the crowd comes first which includes introduction, then you educate them with your sound and diversity.


Posted by nefardec on Jun-08-2007 01:27:

breaking records/track selection

a deejay doesn't play records, he transforms them in the mix and in the order in which they are played, and based on crowd vibes, etc

there's really no one thing that is the most important - everything is an essential skill that adds to the night. for instance, sometimes smooth mixing is needed to keep people dancing and energy levels high. other times a cut or a jarring moment can be exactly what is needed. but at all times it's the record bag which makes the dj. i don't even listen to mixes if i recognize too many things, it's no fun. although it is fun when a DJ takes a well known track and makes it his own.

pleasing the crowd is a result of a dj's skill, not necessarily a dj's responsibility.

i saw francois k play with theo parish at deep space nyc the other day and it was one of the most incredible dj performances i've ever seen. he manages to weave experimental jazz, psychedelic rock, underground disco, deep house, tribal house, hard techno, and acid into this monster of a set which writhes and wriggles and carries you up and down on a massive deep trip. it would be acid trax on one minute and literally the next was downtempo jazz or even trip hop. fucking insane. he had the crowd the entire night


Posted by R.j. on Jun-08-2007 01:37:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
breaking records/track selection

a deejay doesn't play records, he transforms them in the mix and in the order in which they are played, and based on crowd vibes, etc

there's really no one thing that is the most important - everything is an essential skill that adds to the night. for instance, sometimes smooth mixing is needed to keep people dancing and energy levels high. other times a cut or a jarring moment can be exactly what is needed. but at all times it's the record bag which makes the dj. i don't even listen to mixes if i recognize too many things, it's no fun. although it is fun when a DJ takes a well known track and makes it his own.

pleasing the crowd is a result of a dj's skill, not necessarily a dj's responsibility.

i saw francois k play with theo parish at deep space nyc the other day and it was one of the most incredible dj performances i've ever seen. he manages to weave experimental jazz, psychedelic rock, underground disco, deep house, tribal house, hard techno, and acid into this monster of a set which writhes and wriggles and carries you up and down on a massive deep trip. it would be acid trax on one minute and literally the next was downtempo jazz or even trip hop. fucking insane. he had the crowd the entire night


that francois k mix wouldn't happen to be up for download would it? if not, any idea where i could get some of his mixes.... i really enjoy them


Posted by nefardec on Jun-08-2007 01:39:

that particular (june 4th) one unfortunately is not but you can stream other mixes here. the most recent is from a month ago.

juan atkins will be playing with fk on july 2nd which should be crazed too gonna be BIG FUN


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