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Posted by eon on Jun-08-2007 00:14:

Trance Producer for hire

Greetings TA's,

I've been making trance music for longer than you have, but I'm still not very good at it! So I am looking to "hire" a trance producer to help me with mixing, programming drums and making solid basslines. This position requires working knowledge of The Thrillseekers, Ferry Corsten, Chicane, and optionally Gabriel & Dresden. Applicants must possess a degree in Sidechain Compression from the U of Prydz and/or The Benassi Pumphonia Institute. The ideal candidate is pursuing a masters at BT's Nu School of Breakbeats.

Responsibilities include making basslines, putting effects on my synths, and making my drums not suck, usually by replacing them with your own. Sometimes I'll just want you to help me make whatever I'm working on sound like Carte Blanche. It would be helpful (but not necessary) if you use some of the same gear as me (list below)

This would be kinda like a collaboration except I will pay you "whatever you're worth" until "my money runs out" or "you stop sending me cool shit" (terms are entirely flexible/in advance/paypal) If you're interested PM me on TA with the following and I will let you know right away

- your sequencer
- matching gear list (see below)
- URL to your website


Gear List
Sonar 6
JP8080 (Presets Vengeance Xplorations 1+2, Xplorations 3)
SuperNova II (Presets: Vengenace Blue)
NI Battery 3
CamelSpace 1.4
dBlue Glitch
AutoTune 4
Antares Filter
*ReFX Nexus (Expansions: Vengeance)
*Waves Diamond Bundle 4
*V-Station (Presets: Vengeance)
*FabFilter Timeless


Posted by ASFSE on Jun-08-2007 02:37:

wow not funny.


Posted by ralpheeee on Jun-08-2007 02:53:

wow, you're a real comic talent there ASFSE, that dry wit of yours just never gets old.

I laughed

But are you serious or is this a joke.


Posted by ASFSE on Jun-08-2007 02:56:

lol i wasnt trying to be funny...


Posted by B_man on Jun-08-2007 04:26:

Re: Trance Producer for hire

quote:
Originally posted by eon
So I am looking to "hire" a trance producer to help me with mixing, programming drums and making solid basslines.


So basically... do all of your work...

quote:
Originally posted by eon
Responsibilities include making basslines, putting effects on my synths, and making my drums not suck, usually by replacing them with your own.


What!? That's the most enjoyable part of making the track -- choosing the drum sounds, making bassline, and making love to my synths via the mixer.


Dooood... just admit that you can't produce and go back to playing WoW.


Posted by eon on Jun-08-2007 05:07:

quote:
Originally posted by ralpheeee

But are you serious or is this a joke.


No I'm fairly serious. The commission offer is to attract a bigger talent than the people I normally work with.


quote:
Originally posted by B_man
So basically... do all of your work...

Exactly.

quote:
Originally posted by B_man What!? That's the most enjoyable part of making the track -- choosing the drum sounds, making bassline, and making love to my synths via the mixer.

Personally I enjoy writing the lyrics/vocal melody, recording & comping the vocal parts, writing the hook, building the song structure, laying down some acoustic guitar or piano, adding harmonies and backing tracks, choosing instrumentation, programming the synths and automating their params then my favorite is automating sends to RGs and delays.

quote:
Originally posted by B_man
Dooood... just admit that you can't produce and go back to playing WoW.

Did you miss the thread title?


Posted by echosystm on Jun-08-2007 05:27:

rofl @ B_man replying seriously


Posted by skot_e on Jun-08-2007 07:41:

ROFL @ me for even bothering to read this let alone any replies.


Posted by echosystm on Jun-08-2007 07:59:

quote:
Originally posted by skot_e
ROFL @ me for even bothering to read this let alone any replies.


Yeah...
rofl @ you... weirdo


Posted by Fledz on Jun-08-2007 11:15:

lol

/moderate fail


Posted by Storyteller on Jun-08-2007 11:58:

Nice...

Some people don't realise many (big) names/producers have their sound designers and helping hands for a few $$$.

It's very common actually. Don't know why people are laughing about that.


Posted by Drik on Jun-08-2007 12:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
Nice...

Some people don't realise many (big) names/producers have their sound designers and helping hands for a few $$$.

It's very common actually. Don't know why people are laughing about that.


Of course
We operate similarly at times at our work, we do the overall design for something, we hire someone else to do all the tech stuff and content, same thing as this..


Posted by XvN on Jun-08-2007 12:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
Nice...

Some people don't realise many (big) names/producers have their sound designers and helping hands for a few $$$.


yep, exactly

I don't know about "many", but some do, for sure.


Posted by Subtle on Jun-08-2007 13:02:

Ask for a collab instead, looks better.


Posted by eon on Jun-08-2007 15:36:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
how much money u got?

Enough. If I posted my budget for everyone to see, then I wouldn't have much power to negotiate in the future, now would I?

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...2&forumid=48&s=


I'm not looking for somebody who advertises their services. That's what commercial sample CDs are for.


Posted by beats and beeps on Jun-08-2007 16:25:

Re: Trance Producer for hire

quote:
Originally posted by eon
Greetings TA's,

I've been making trance music for longer than you have, but I'm still not very good at it! So I am looking to "hire" a trance producer to help me with mixing, programming drums and making solid basslines. This position requires working knowledge of The Thrillseekers, Ferry Corsten, Chicane, and optionally Gabriel & Dresden. Applicants must possess a degree in Sidechain Compression from the U of Prydz and/or The Benassi Pumphonia Institute. The ideal candidate is pursuing a masters at BT's Nu School of Breakbeats.

Responsibilities include making basslines, putting effects on my synths, and making my drums not suck, usually by replacing them with your own. Sometimes I'll just want you to help me make whatever I'm working on sound like Carte Blanche. It would be helpful (but not necessary) if you use some of the same gear as me (list below)

This would be kinda like a collaboration except I will pay you "whatever you're worth" until "my money runs out" or "you stop sending me cool shit" (terms are entirely flexible/in advance/paypal) If you're interested PM me on TA with the following and I will let you know right away

- your sequencer
- matching gear list (see below)
- URL to your website


Gear List
Sonar 6
JP8080 (Presets Vengeance Xplorations 1+2, Xplorations 3)
SuperNova II (Presets: Vengenace Blue)
NI Battery 3
CamelSpace 1.4
dBlue Glitch
AutoTune 4
Antares Filter
*ReFX Nexus (Expansions: Vengeance)
*Waves Diamond Bundle 4
*V-Station (Presets: Vengeance)
*FabFilter Timeless

how big is your dick?


Posted by A1C on Jun-08-2007 16:49:

Satan (eek!)






Posted by eon on Jun-08-2007 16:58:

Re: Re: Trance Producer for hire

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
how big is your dick?


What I lack in length, I make up for in girth. WAIT HMMMM...she also said my basslines were good


Posted by godsendxd on Jun-08-2007 17:45:

Evil1

lmao learn yourself you dont need anybody to teach you how do you think people get better lolz .


Posted by DigiNut on Jun-08-2007 18:39:

So what exactly do you bring to the table?

I'm just curious why a good producer would choose to take chump change for their hard work from somebody they've never met or heard of as opposed to finding a label to work with.

Also, in the "sorta like a collaboration" paragraph, I think you left out the no credit or royalties part.

You say you won't post your budget because you want to leave room to negotiate, but you'd have to be offering something pretty generous for anyone to take the offer seriously. Sentences like "whatever you're worth" and "until my money runs out" hardly inspire much trust or confidence in that area. I can just imagine asking about compensation during or after a job interview and getting that response. I think my reply would be, "Hmm, well it looks like my time has just run out, but that's okay, because you've received as much of it as you're worth anyway."


Posted by antronx on Jun-08-2007 19:05:

Ppl, this dude is fucking with you all. I saw this few minutes after he posted it, and did not even want to be a smart ass and reply.


Posted by fr0st on Jun-08-2007 20:38:

PM I work with people here in NYC. I use logic/ableton


Posted by eon on Jun-08-2007 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I'm just curious why a good producer would choose to take chump change for their hard work from somebody they've never met or heard of as opposed to finding a label to work with.


Because a good producer knows that he can't sit on a solid gold nugget and shit out another one at the same time.

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut

I think my reply would be, "Hmm, well it looks like my time has just run out, but that's okay, because you've received as much of it as you're worth anyway."


Perhaps the employer would apologize for his lack of tact and discuss with you the compensation terms, probably based on your past earnings and experience with bonus milestones for meating target objectives.


Posted by zodiac9 on Jun-09-2007 00:06:

Re: Trance Producer for hire

quote:
Originally posted by eon
Greetings TA's,

Applicants must possess a degree in Sidechain Compression from the U of Prydz and/or The Benassi Pumphonia Institute. The ideal candidate is pursuing a masters at BT's Nu School of Breakbeats.



Huh? For a second there I thought maybe Benassi ran a little production Institute. Then I realized this was all a clever attempt at clarifying the qualifications needed.

Yes, I'm thinking a colab might be what you are looking for. Since you can do vocals and write lyrics, you should get plenty of replies. Maybe not so many though, because half the people here think this is a joke. I tend think you're serious though. I'm sure that if you know where to look, there are producers that do this kind of thing all the time. Hiring themselves out as a co-producer I mean. Perhaps there's even a recording studio in your area that could help you out.

I would consider collabing with a vocalist/producer, but going into a "for hire" situation sounds complicated. What if the working relationship erodes, then what? All that work down the drain, LOL!


Posted by Fledz on Jun-09-2007 01:17:

It's an alt ffs


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