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Posted by Omega_M on Jun-13-2007 17:27:

Red face w3bsite building 101

I'm supposed to build a website for our research group, and I have no clue where to start

HALP !!!11!1!


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jun-13-2007 17:35:

I hear you can make really good websites with this:



Posted by pvdAngel on Jun-13-2007 17:36:

I have n00b knowledge on how to do web design/making a website.

You're best starting off by planning a storyboard and navigation plan (how your pages will link with each other) and also make a note on what your aims are for it. Depending on how simple/complex you want it to be depends how much preparation you need to do before making it.

Once you're happy with your ideas and layouts, do some tutorials or a short course on how to build a website, depending on the knowledge you already have on the subject.

Once you're happy with that, start making it!


Posted by Omega_M on Jun-13-2007 17:44:

Oh it's gotta be a simple website. It must provide information about the advisor, research assistants and the type of research being conducted by our group. I can look up Publisher and see how to use it. I just don't want to spend time learning something like Dreamweaver


Posted by AnomalyConcept on Jun-13-2007 17:49:

If you value your life, don't start with Microsoft Word.

If it needs to be simple, you can look at anywhere that has pre-made themes/templates/whatever. Be advised, though, that they are pretty common, and won't be unique.

Hmm. There weren't any replies when I started writing this, but Publisher I think is geared toward desktop publishing, eg. print, and it may or may not be able to do web stuff. The Microsoft offering in the web department is Frontpage, which is actually very similar to Dreamweaver. It's actually fairly easy to use (graphical editor) and is WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get), so it's like using a word processor.

In any case, there's always Google Pages (http://www.googlepages.com). Last time I checked, it had a pretty intuitive interface (web-based) for creating webpages.


Posted by Inertia on Jun-13-2007 17:52:

http://www.htmlgoodies.com/

get to reading.


Posted by Omega_M on Jun-13-2007 17:57:

much appreciated I will start looking this stuff. I once tried to build a personal website using MS Frontpage. But there were so many issues (me being a n00b at it) that I dropped the idea altogether.

Keep the advice coming in plz.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Jun-13-2007 18:07:

haha just use frontpage. dont use publisher.


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Jun-13-2007 18:11:

pay a korean guy $5. he'll make it for you


Posted by Orbax on Jun-13-2007 18:17:

html
head /head

body

P info you want /p

a href="site you want to link" text to display /a

/body
/html

ops screwed up lolol


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jun-13-2007 18:52:

-use a lot of iframes with the width and height being 1.
-use a lot of HTML tags with css styles being "visibility:hidden" and "display:none".
-make a whole bunch of links to some random executables out on the web.
-use scripting to use the FileSystemObject class to drop some files on the user's computer.

do these and you are guaranteed the job with the research group for life. you will easily get recommendations.


Posted by Sunsnail on Jun-13-2007 21:11:

don't use a colorful background...


Posted by idoru on Jun-13-2007 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
html
head /head

body

P info you want /p

a href="site you want to link" text to display /a

/body
/html

ops screwed up lolol


End of thread, really.


Posted by AnomalyConcept on Jun-13-2007 22:28:

quote:
Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
do these and you are guaranteed the job with the research group for life.


Not to mention badly tiled animated gifs for backgrounds, the 'lime green, lion yellow, bright red' triad, and the obligatory comic sans.

As LeopoldStotch said, they will guarantee your job with the research group...

...just not in web design.


Posted by Boomer187 on Jun-14-2007 00:26:

seriously, just get a template from a template site like template monster and work off it from a program like dreamweaver or maybe frontpage.



easy peasy.


Posted by GeminiZ on Jun-14-2007 00:27:

go buy this book: web design in a nut shell.. it will help trust me... ive been designing web for like 3.5 years now...dreamweaver and bbedit are the way to go, but you can use flash 8 if u want too


Posted by Omega_M on Jun-14-2007 01:44:

thank you guys for all your responses.


Posted by Lira on Jun-14-2007 02:32:

Step 1: Learn (X)HTML

In order to build a website, you need to know the language used to structure them. Orbax already posted the basics, and it doesn't get much harder than that.

Recommended Links:
http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp
http://www.sitepoint.com/subcat/html

Step 2: Learn CSS

So, you found out how to tell the browser where paragraphs begin, and what should be a link. Probably, you now want to make your website look nice, changing the colour scheme, using different fonts, and putting things on their place.

Recommended Links:
http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp
http://www.sitepoint.com/subcat/css

Step 3: The big bad surprise

I've got to tell you one thing - not all browsers interpret their CSS and HTML the same way. You should consider resetting your CSS before doing anything else, and testing your website in as many different browsers as possible.



Edit: Oh, if you need any piece of software, I recommend PSPad.


Posted by Omega_M on Jun-14-2007 03:07:

Thanks Lira, I'll check out those links and stuff


Posted by Orbax on Jun-14-2007 03:51:

damn lira hes making a site for his classroom. XML and CSS might be over the top lol. Hes not doing webservices!!


Posted by mezzir on Jun-14-2007 04:14:

notepad
i'm hardcore damnit


Posted by chris harrington on Jun-14-2007 04:54:

just make a myspace profile for it and ur done


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jun-14-2007 05:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp


this site is ftw. i refer to this site a lot to flip through some JS object members i tend to forget at times.


Posted by Pheobius on Jun-14-2007 09:34:

If you got cash, and the site you want is simple, I could do with the money


Posted by Lira on Jun-14-2007 13:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
damn lira hes making a site for his classroom. XML and CSS might be over the top lol. Hes not doing webservices!!

Maybe I shouldn't have added the X in XHTML, but CSS is not difficult if you speak English.

I mean...

h1 {
font-family: Arial, Sans-Serif;
}

p {
font-family: Times New Roman, Serif;
text-indent: 20px;
}

... this is not really that hard, is it?


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