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GOA and PSY trance are different
I always figure there is and i know there is some controversy over this.But from what i understand GOA feels more organic and PSY more metallic.I'm looking for GOA influenced tracks that have been released lately.Any suggestions?
check out Ricky M - Bongladesh
http://www.discogs.com/label/Suntrip+Records
Re: GOA and PSY trance are different
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| Originally posted by Surfmorworkless I always figure there is and i know there is some controversy over this.But from what i understand GOA feels more organic and PSY more metallic.I'm looking for GOA influenced tracks that have been released lately.Any suggestions? |
Goa trance is coming from India,its have specific sound,influenced with their national music,or so..i m not so good in english.
Goa trance come from island Goa...
Goa trance artists:
Filteria
KhetzaL
Ypsilon 5
Lost Buddha
Goa trance label: Suntrip Records is what you're looking for.
Goa's a hippy vacation spot in India where this type of music sort of crawled out of a few electronic musical influences as a genre in of itself at the raves there at Goa and the artists came from all over the place.
It's not so much the actual melody and structure of a Goa track and a more contemporary Psy track are all that much different, both are fairly fast paced, hypnotic and very rarely vox based apart from a couple of samples once in awhile.
What is different is the technology.
All the Goa stuff is made on early 1990's gear, some of it analogue, some digital-analogue and fairly much all of it hardware based.
Come the late 90s when Psy sort of evolved from that Goa sound you're getting a lot more into software based music construction and away from the studio hardware which lends itself to creating a different sound. I mean you just have to look at the technology curve, in 1992 the computers where still 8 or 16bit and come around late 90's, most of the IBM and Mac stuff is all 32 or more. So samples sound clearer, broader range of sound and technological capability to do a lot more with it. It's not so much the music has changed, the way it's made has changed.
Well that's my (probably open to being wrong) interpretation of it.
i think of some psy trance as being reliant on sounding trippy and out there for the sake of it and using the same old samples from sci fi movies and speeches about drugs whereas goa seems to have a bigger focus on melodies? i dunno thats just my take.
I've been told, and tell people.
Goa = melody influenced, with less kick/bassline influence than psytrance and more emphasis on a clever melody, maybe a nice acid line, and so forth. examples of which include MWNN, Doof & so on.
Psytrance has more the samey kick/bassline and tries to use tricks in many cases, sometimes it works, often it doesn't, to twist and turn around your head. While there are good melodies, they're not as much at the forefront of the tracks like in goa.
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| Originally posted by RebeL9 check out Ricky M - Bongladesh |
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| Originally posted by Philby i think of some psy trance as being reliant on sounding trippy and out there for the sake of it and using the same old samples from sci fi movies and speeches about drugs whereas goa seems to have a bigger focus on melodies? i dunno thats just my take. |
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| Originally posted by Lilith Goa's a hippy vacation spot in India where this type of music sort of crawled out of a few electronic musical influences as a genre in of itself at the raves there at Goa and the artists came from all over the place. It's not so much the actual melody and structure of a Goa track and a more contemporary Psy track are all that much different, both are fairly fast paced, hypnotic and very rarely vox based apart from a couple of samples once in awhile. What is different is the technology. All the Goa stuff is made on early 1990's gear, some of it analogue, some digital-analogue and fairly much all of it hardware based. Come the late 90s when Psy sort of evolved from that Goa sound you're getting a lot more into software based music construction and away from the studio hardware which lends itself to creating a different sound. I mean you just have to look at the technology curve, in 1992 the computers where still 8 or 16bit and come around late 90's, most of the IBM and Mac stuff is all 32 or more. So samples sound clearer, broader range of sound and technological capability to do a lot more with it. It's not so much the music has changed, the way it's made has changed. Well that's my (probably open to being wrong) interpretation of it. |
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| Originally posted by Hrvoje i m not so good in english. Goa trance come from island Goa... |
Goa = Hippies + acid + drum machines + synths
ex. Astral Projection - Mahadeva
Psytrance = Robots on LSD with drum machines and synths
ex. Bizarre Contact
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| Originally posted by Philby i think of some psy trance as being reliant on sounding trippy and out there for the sake of it and using the same old samples from sci fi movies and speeches about drugs whereas goa seems to have a bigger focus on melodies? i dunno thats just my take. |
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| Originally posted by Beat Blog I'm very, very new to Goa and Psy, but I tend to agree with this. To me, Goa seems to be far more melody based, with a slightly softer sound and less emphasis on kick drums, but melodies that you can lose yourself in. On the other hand, psy seems to be much harder, with bigger emphasis on kick drums, and those deep acidic basslines. The melodies seem to be an enhancement to psy-trance tracks, not the focus as in Goa. Organic vs artificial isn't too badder way to look at it either; I think this is a good way to explain it. On another note: Domestic - Non Human. Great track. |
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| Originally posted by SMC You're completely leaving out the aspect of composition, in which the key characterstics of goa trance lie. It's not like people stopped writing melodies in the modes associated with goa trance just because they got a new computer. |
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| Originally posted by PETRAN I don't see how goa and psy are composed in different ways. I'm still 1000% sure that there are NO, or at least to be more accurate, there WERE NO differences between these two names in the 90s (yeah i know same argument again but its fun lol). It was just a different way to refer to the one and same thing, in much the same way that today's people call melodic trance in different ways such as uplifting, epic, melodic, euphoric, anthem or whatever. It is just that there were so many stuff coming out from the Psy/Goa genre, that people struggled to find actual differences, trying to perceive and categorize the two imaginary genres as different, whereas in reality there weren't any actual differences at all. In Ishkur's words "hell, there are too many good stuff to fit just under one genre!" The only broad difference i could find of back in the day was betwen the European "dark" or "night" genre and the Israeli "melodic" or "morning" genre. But these were not absolute and there were definitelly interchangeable. The difficulty in distinquishing between the two genres can be viewed in the fact that each person can have a completely different conception of what is categorised and/or perceived as psy and what is categorised and/or perceived as goa. Some would insist that goa is an old genre that doesn't exist anymore referring to stuff such as juno Reactor and Transwave as goa, but i'm sure that i've seen these names in countless 90s psy compilations and i don't think that these projects would have a problem to categorize themselves as psy. Some others would say that whilst such a distinction was actually absent in the past, it is not anymore. But yeah anyway i'm not going for this endless argument again! |
The question we should be asking: What do they have in common?
1)
psy trance = awesome when tripping
goa trance = awesome when tripping
2) They both have three letters in their names.
3) Teisto sucks arse.
TIC
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| Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_ The question we should be asking: What do they have in common? 1) psy trance = awesome when tripping goa trance = awesome when tripping 2) They both have three letters in their names. 3) Teisto sucks arse. |
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| Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_ The question we should be asking: What do they have in common? 1) psy trance = awesome when tripping goa trance = awesome when tripping 2) They both have three letters in their names. 3) Teisto sucks arse. |
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| Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_ The question we should be asking: What do they have in common? 1) psy trance = awesome when tripping goa trance = awesome when tripping 2) They both have three letters in their names. 3) Teisto sucks arse. |
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| Originally posted by Darkarbiter How about they are both just awesome? |
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| Originally posted by Allied Nations That would be a lie |
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| Originally posted by SMC http://www.discogs.com/label/Suntrip+Records |
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