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Tech 12s that go BACKWARDS!

cool..

I hope this link works.. http://datrecords.com/cgi-bin/Virtu...isplayNumber=10

ehh......its nuthing new.....vinyl touch has been out for years


personally i wouldnt do that to my tables

Hmm sounds interesting but I wouldn't like my records to spin backwards and I think the blue illum will only hinder your concentration and reading the dot pitches.

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Originally posted by Great Outdoors Hmm sounds interesting but I wouldn't like my records to spin backwards and I think the blue illum will only hinder your concentration and reading the dot pitches.

blue lights = awesome.. and no they work just as well as the reds for reading the dots.. which.. i've never done.. but.. hell.. i dunno anything

Well, My Stantons Have Blue LEDs And THey Look Quite Nice.

You can actually get your Techies to go backwards without using the Vinyl touch kit. All it needs is an adjustment of the brake sensitivity inside the unit.

Yeah but that's not a constant backwards motion.

The blue leds modification has been a trend since Vinyl touch appeared, and now that trend is everywhere (pc casemodding community loves blue leds). Imho if you start with blue leds at this moment, you aren't really original, as sometimes I think there are more TT's with blue leds than normal ones.
It's pretty easy to change your leds on Techies, 1 rectangular one for the pitch, 2 round ones for the 33/45 rpm buttons and 4 for the strobe. Just requires soldering skills.

The vinyl touch comes in two variants

- the reverse kit, user installable, it's just a little box you plug in

- the full modding kit (blue leds) which should be installed by an official dealer.

The reverse works pretty simple, just tap the start button twice and it starts spinning in reverse, with pitch functionality.
But it's more a gadget you'll use a couple of times when you get it new, and forget about it pretty quick. If you ask me, I prefer the manual method (motor off, and spin backwards with finger). Takes some skill, but you have more control.

Cd's can do that now..
though iw ouldnt trust it in my TT's.. i heard that it can slow or even stuff your motor up!

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Originally posted by Dj Thy Yeah but that's not a constant backwards motion. The reverse works pretty simple, just tap the start button twice and it starts spinning in reverse, with pitch functionality. But it's more a gadget you'll use a couple of times when you get it new, and forget about it pretty quick. If you ask me, I prefer the manual method (motor off, and spin backwards with finger). Takes some skill, but you have more control.

well, what i want it for is spinning songs backwards. backwards kick drums have an awesome sound, a whoomp, whoomp, whoomp..

some tracks have that sample in them, but to actualy be able to mix in a track like that would be sweet.. keeping it perfect on beat using your finger is pretty tough, and doesn't leave your hands and mind free to adjust levels.

i thought of another application for backwards spinning decks too(besides the obvious, listening to your sabbath records for satanic messages)

you could find the place you want to drop a track, then cue it backwards from there, in the headphones. start from a pre determined cue point on the other record (the live one).

this would allow you to tell exactly where to start the second one later. i did a crappy job of explaining it, but maybe you got what i meant anyway?

basically, for tracks that have messed up or beatless intros, you could figure out where to drop the track so it lines up.

Take my advice, learn to do it manually. It takes practice but
1) you'll be proud you can do that
2) adds something to your showmanship

well ya, beat juggling and all that, would be nice to learn.

but, if i could have the table do it, then i could focus on other things.. i digress.

i want a table that spins backwards, that's all there is to it.

i think that is a waste...your never going to use it playing live or otherwise. things like that and those korg khaos effect pads are just dumb because any time spent between songs should be beat matching or playing with the eqs, not fucking up the song with a over powerful flange effect(unless it comes with your mixer like the djm 600)...well im going off on a tangent now, must stop

Don't some turntables have this feature already built in, specifically the top of the range Vestax? I'm not entirely sure as I haven�t used them before but I seem to remember reading somewhere that they do. Ah well, it could just be my overactive imagination and failing memory

Most recent top of the range TT's have that feature yeah.

yep.. pretty much all of the top end decks besides technics all have reverse, the Stantons, Vestax, even numark and gemini i think.

but still techs are beter. i would like decks that go backwards, it would be nice to have, and i think i would use it live. BUT, i am still going to pay twice the price for technics, even though they don't go backwards. just because techs are the standard, and so reliable and tested.

and as much as i want backward techs, i don't think i would bother installing a kit to do it, to much trouble, could fuck up my decks, and would probably void my warranty too.

BUT

if technics came out with new decks, with reverse, digital output, increased pitch control range, and maybe even key lock, then i would be into paying a lot more for them. probably $1000 canadian each although somehow i think they'd be more than that even.

i think it's time for technics to bring out a new deck, and i think that they probably will, will all the new competition.

digital outs? I think that would be more trouble to implement that it would do good.

Ever heard of the RIAA curve? The phono signal needs to be pre-amped as everybody knows, but it also has to run thru a specific Equalizer curve (which it runs thru when pluggin into a phono in). The record as it is has almost no low frequencies in it, they are very very soft. The high end on the other hand are much more dominant. This is because if they would press the signal on line-level-style frequencies on the vinyl the grooves would become so broad that you couldn't fit 2 minutes on a record.

Soo if they were gonna make a digital out, they would have to make sure the signal from the needle first runs thru this RIAA curve, otherwise it would sound just like running a turntable not thru a phono in, but thru a line in, and then amplified (or thru a mic pre-amp).

If you run the turntable thru a line in and amplify it, you will hear what i talked about, almost no low, lost of high.

yes, i know all about the phono, line level, RIAA curve and stuff.

still, what i mean by digital out is an optical link, like on high quality CD players.

that would be awesome for PERFECT vinyl ripping to an archival format.

it could also be simply a line out, like on a CD player, so that you wouldn't HAVE to run it throught a phono preamp to get sound, and you could plug it directly into a MD player or something.

i know that some decks have this.

by converting the signal to digital at the source, you would avoid any distortion caused by transfer across a wire first, or in the A->D conversion (which in a computer can be really noisy due to all the hardware, the fan etc.)

although, i'm not sure, would the spinning motor and magnet interfere with the A->D conversion?

maybe a breakout box like on high end soundcards would be best.

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