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Posted by Dilmeet on Jun-16-2007 22:15:

Could you make a decent production with...

M-Audio Trigger Finger
M-Audio Midi Keyboard
Ableton
Dell Inspirion 9300
Custom PC: 64 Bit AMD, 1024
A crap load of samples/loops
?

I really really realllyyy want to get into music production, but im a student and have only minimal amounts of money =(

If not, what else would I need and how much more do I have to spend?

I do have some dj exp. (4 years)- I got 2 1200's, Vestax Mixer, Serato Scratch Live, good monitors, MDR-V700 headphones


Posted by jupiterone on Jun-16-2007 22:18:

Yep.

That's basically all you really need now. Plus Ableton is an incredible production application, can make samples sound like hundreds of different samples in a matter of minutes.


Posted by Dilmeet on Jun-16-2007 22:21:

right now im only using my laptop, not my PC. Could I get any benefits from hooking the 2 together?


Posted by 3F05Q on Jun-16-2007 22:23:

From experience dude, to start off you don't even need nearly that much. I started with a mouse and Reason 2.whatever. There's SO much to learn and get experience with before ancillaries would make improvements.

I'm sure the DJ experience will help you a lot with structure and sound. At least you'll know better what kind of goal you're trying to acheive.

Now I have Live 6, a MIDI keyboard, and some nice headphones. That's been good for me, as far as stepping up equipment with skill level.

There ARE benefits of using one machine to process software instruments and effects, but I'm guessing you won't need that, as Live does a great job of freezing tracks. (basically processing all the inst. and effects in a track so it treats it as processed audio, lighter CPU load.)

Good luck with production, and I look forward to hearing what you come up with. I'm always willing to lend my ears!


Posted by 3F05Q on Jun-16-2007 22:26:

Question.. what have you purchased thusfar? Do you have a keyboard and trigger finger yet? Axiom 49 has 8 pads built in. Might save you some dough there.


Posted by Zild on Jun-16-2007 22:28:

I could do it without any of the midi controllers.


Posted by Dilmeet on Jun-16-2007 22:37:

quote:
Originally posted by 3F05Q
Question.. what have you purchased thusfar? Do you have a keyboard and trigger finger yet? Axiom 49 has 8 pads built in. Might save you some dough there.


So far I have all of those except the Trigger Finger & Midi Keyboard, I was going to Ebay them today. I've been playing with ableton and samplepacks for about 2-3 months now, but still I'am very new to it. I can't build a decent build up, it's like I can't control the samples and synths the way I want. I just want to be in full control of the music

a studio like MSTRKRFTS is just intiminating


Posted by ASFSE on Jun-16-2007 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I could do it without any of the midi controllers.


just need a midi keyboard....makes working a lot faster.


Posted by Dilmeet on Jun-16-2007 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by 3F05Q
Question.. what have you purchased thusfar? Do you have a keyboard and trigger finger yet? Axiom 49 has 8 pads built in. Might save you some dough there.


I kinds want the pads and keyboard seperate. Any suggestions on a keyboard?


Posted by Eric J on Jun-16-2007 22:53:

Re: Could you make a decent production with...

quote:
Originally posted by Dilmeet
M-Audio Trigger Finger
M-Audio Midi Keyboard
Ableton
Dell Inspirion 9300
Custom PC: 64 Bit AMD, 1024
A crap load of samples/loops
?

I really really realllyyy want to get into music production, but im a student and have only minimal amounts of money =(

If not, what else would I need and how much more do I have to spend?

I do have some dj exp. (4 years)- I got 2 1200's, Vestax Mixer, Serato Scratch Live, good monitors, MDR-V700 headphones


Triiger Finger and Ableton also make for a very nice digital dj setup. If you're into that kind of thing.


Posted by Dilmeet on Jun-16-2007 22:55:

Re: Re: Could you make a decent production with...

quote:
Originally posted by Eric J
Triiger Finger and Ableton also make for a very nice digital dj setup. If you're into that kind of thing.


I prefer my serato.


Posted by Vizay on Jun-16-2007 23:30:

the rig you mentioned in the first post is perfectly good for creating basicly top end quality stuff

What you might want to explore and get your hands on is some good sample libraries to top it up (doesn'�t have to be expensive stuff, if you put in a max of 100$ into samples you have a really nice library in your hands )

just dive in and learn the software and learn it good and just go from there


Posted by kitphillips on Jun-17-2007 11:31:

You don't want all that gear. Ableton live and a midi keyboard is good. Pads are quite unnecesary, on the keyboard or elsewhere. you probably do want some synths though, that'll give you the control you want. You can only go so far with loops...

If you wanted to go all out you could check out native instruments komplete, or they have some other bundles I think. Try and go with bundled stuff at this stage, it works out much cheaper.


Posted by psymon.d on Jun-17-2007 16:30:

yeah honestly it doesn't take near that much to get started on things. i started on a sh*t computer with sh*t speakers using fl studio 3.0, and that's it!


Posted by barnes17 on Jun-17-2007 19:26:

You can make good music with FL studio alone. I don't see why you need to buy all that chit. A MIDI keyboard is good too, I just use my musical keyboard it has midi in/out.


Posted by DigiNut on Jun-17-2007 20:37:

You could make a decent production with some old 8-tracks, a pair of scissors, and scotch tape, if you were so inclined.

People are entitled to their preferences for tools of course, and there's no question that some improve productivity more than others, but the tools don't do the work, the producer does.


Posted by Dilmeet on Jun-19-2007 19:42:

Okay I think im going to get a synthesizer and a midi keyboard. I won't go with the pad. I read the new Absynth 4 is really good. I just can't decide on a Midi keyboard? Can someone list some good ones that are priced pretty good.

Also, do you any of you know of mediocre-intermediate Ableton lesson websites or tutorial dvds or something of that sort?


Posted by 3F05Q on Jun-19-2007 22:50:

There are tutorials built into ableton.

Ableton's Site

Ableton's Forums

YouTube

Ableton Live DJ Forum

Have fun!


Posted by godsendxd on Jun-20-2007 17:51:

You have some pretty good stuff close to what i got except the abelton .
I use fl studio .Some reason these days people choose abelton over flstudio !


Posted by charlie lloyd on Jun-21-2007 04:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Dilmeet

a studio like MSTRKRFTS is just intiminating


cant help but think "118-118"(uk ta's might get what im on about)

sorry haha



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