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Posted by kush paintings on Jun-25-2007 23:56:

James Holden @ Rex Club, Paris 2/17/2007 WTF!

I listened to this set yesterday and today, and I am so torn. I'm like many others who were ready to worship Holden after Balance 005. However, also like many others, I was disappointed at the direction he went after the release.

The first 28 minutes is great stuff, really hard and high paced. When I first heard this, I was beginning to think Holden was about to become my favorite dj again. However, at about the 31 minute mark the pace and the mix loses its wheels and goes to shit. After the diversion into a really strange place (especially given the very consistent and clear sound he was going for in the first half) the mix never seems to recover. The pacing is mediocre at best, and there really is no consistent atmosphere or mood he seems to be going for. Granted, good tracks are spotted about, but the total absence of mood and a consistent atmosphere left me scratching my head.

For those of you that have heard this mix, can you speak to these issues. I would be really interested to hear from those who still love Holden and what you think of this, or hopefully direct me toward better recent sets of his.

[[ LINK REMOVED ]]


Posted by shaw on Jun-26-2007 00:04:

I would download it, but apparently I'm not good enough at reading wingdings or whatever the fuck this is:





now I have to wait to try again


Posted by shaw on Jun-26-2007 00:06:

first one was not 0GXC

that's what I put

I put Y for the 2nd one


Posted by shaw on Jun-26-2007 00:10:

OMG I WON!



I guess that makes that first one a 6. When the hell did they go to this nonsense?


Posted by kush paintings on Jun-26-2007 01:21:

Agreed, retarded. But anyways...


Posted by Domesticated on Jun-26-2007 05:54:

I was singularly unimpressed by Holden's technical skills when I saw him in 2005. There were train wrecks, and an out of time acapella that played for a full minute.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jun-26-2007 07:39:

It was already posted in the Tracklists forum.

James Holden Live @ The End, London (10.02.2007)

1. ID 00:00 � 05:59
2. Cobblestone Jazz - Dump Truck / Peace offering 06:00 � 07:59
3. James Holden � Idiot Calypso 08:00 � 10:31
4. Misstress Barbara � Barcelona 10:32 � 18:49
5. Pier Bucci � Instinct 18:50 � 21:54
6. ID (brilliant!! also played @ Petrol) 21:55 � 26:14
7. ID (absolutely MF brilliant!! New BC?) 26:15 - 30:30
8. ID 30:31 � 33:39
9. Kotai - Sucker DJ
10. ID 39:10 � 42:34
11. DJ Koze vs Sid LeRock - keep it simple stupid
12. ID 48:48 � 52:29
13. Petter - Left Turned 52:30 � 56:29
14. Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom - Rise (DFA mix) 56:30 � 60:37
15. Pan-Tone � Thrill Ho 60:38 � 65:33


Posted by Nik Novo on Jun-26-2007 08:09:

I'm recently at minute 26 and so far it's really crappy. Nothing compared to when I saw him 2 years ago


Posted by transcende on Jun-26-2007 10:20:

quote:
Originally posted by paulandrews
It was already posted in the Tracklists forum.

James Holden Live @ The End, London (10.02.2007)

1. ID 00:00 � 05:59
2. Cobblestone Jazz - Dump Truck / Peace offering 06:00 � 07:59
3. James Holden � Idiot Calypso 08:00 � 10:31
4. Misstress Barbara � Barcelona 10:32 � 18:49
5. Pier Bucci � Instinct 18:50 � 21:54
6. ID (brilliant!! also played @ Petrol) 21:55 � 26:14
7. ID (absolutely MF brilliant!! New BC?) 26:15 - 30:30
8. ID 30:31 � 33:39
9. Kotai - Sucker DJ
10. ID 39:10 � 42:34
11. DJ Koze vs Sid LeRock - keep it simple stupid
12. ID 48:48 � 52:29
13. Petter - Left Turned 52:30 � 56:29
14. Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom - Rise (DFA mix) 56:30 � 60:37
15. Pan-Tone � Thrill Ho 60:38 � 65:33



No, this is the wrong tracklist.


Posted by transcende on Jun-26-2007 10:31:

01 Holden - idiot clapsolo
02 Cobblestone jazz - dumptruck
03 ID
04 Julien Jewell - Air conditionne
05 ID
06 ID (known)
07 ID
08 ID
09 Holden - Lump
10 ID
11 ID
12 ID (some depeche mode rmx????)
13 Moby - Go (rmx)
14 ID
15 Nathan Fake - Charlies House (Apparat rmx)


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jun-26-2007 10:34:

I am also confused about the thread title (gig in Paris) and the name of the file (gig at The End, London). I listened to the London set and I'm sure the correct tracklist was the one I posted.


Posted by transcende on Jun-26-2007 10:46:

Ah I see, its indeed the correct tracklist for the set @ The End


Posted by basvh on Jun-26-2007 13:04:

Saw him at Timewarp few months back and it was crazy. He closed down the party. Timeslot: 12h till 14h in the afternoon.

What a set, mimimal, some electro influences here and there and a lot of neo-trance. One of the best sets I heard since a long time


Posted by Jansa on Jun-26-2007 13:06:

I actually thought the second part was better.


Posted by chesco on Jun-26-2007 13:43:

Still playing lump?


Posted by Dj_Es-Dva on Jun-26-2007 14:35:

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
Still playing lump?

its one of the most original tunes in recent times thats for sure, but still playing Left Turned what the hell???


Posted by kush paintings on Jun-26-2007 15:47:

Hey guys, thanks for reviving the thread. I might be wrong, but I don't feel like Im in the minority of people who are like wtf is he doing. I hate to keep going back to this, but after Balance came out there was so much hype about him and the potential he had. To me, it seems like he hasn't even come close to living up to that potential. Sure, like someone pointed out he has produced a handful of really interesting tracks since then, but I have yet to hear a set from him in the past 2 years that I give repeat listens.


Posted by Az on Jun-28-2007 04:30:

his set at sonar was better than balance 005


Posted by Domesticated on Jun-28-2007 04:53:

quote:
Originally posted by basvh
Saw him at Timewarp few months back and it was crazy. He closed down the party. Timeslot: 12h till 14h in the afternoon.

What a set, mimimal, some electro influences here and there and a lot of neo-trance. One of the best sets I heard since a long time


What is Neo-Trance? Cite some specific tracks as examples.

Never even heard of the genre before.


Posted by kush paintings on Jun-28-2007 04:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
his set at sonar was better than balance 005


Sorry, what set at sonar are you talking about and do you have a link?


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jun-28-2007 07:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Beat Blog
What is Neo-Trance? Cite some specific tracks as examples.

Never even heard of the genre before.


http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF264996-01-01-01.mp3
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF271410-01-01-01.mp3
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF263646-01-01-01.mp3
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF272464-01-01-08.mp3

http://www.emusic.com/features/spot...281_200703.html


Posted by Az on Jun-28-2007 15:23:

quote:
Originally posted by kush paintings
Sorry, what set at sonar are you talking about and do you have a link?

he played on the opening day of the sonar festival in barcelona this month
not sure if there's links but it was genuinely Holden fulfilling his potential
as for tracklists, no fucking idea, i recognised one tune in 2 hours


Posted by kush paintings on Jun-28-2007 17:39:

cool, Ill try to hunt that one down. Now when you say 'genuinely living up to his potential', would you agree that over the past couple of years he really hasn't (at least not consistently)?


Posted by ibizzzaaa on Jun-28-2007 22:50:

When it comes to studio work - productions, remixes, mix compilations - Holden is the shit! But when he spins live, he is not that great. It doesn't seem like dj'ing in a club is really his thing.


Posted by luisjb82 on Jun-28-2007 23:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
his set at sonar was better than balance 005


My goodness, someone else told me pretty much the same thing about his set... just gold. Been searching that set like madman, still no luck.


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