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Posted by sym on Apr-15-2002 01:53:

Starting out CD DJing

Hello all, I'm new here so try and give me a warm welcome ;P. Anyway here's what I need some help with.

I'm looking into taking the plunge and buying some equipment. I don't have a huge budget so don't want to start with vinyl. I'd like to eventually move into it, but I figure later on TT's might compliment my CD Decks. I've been looking into the Pioneer CDJ-100S.
Any comments?

Besides that, I am looking to try and do alot of small parties (Sweet 16s, Graduation Parties Etc.) to try and make some money back on the equipment I bought. Besides the Pioneers I don't know what I need. Can anyone help me out? My budget isn't huge, but its not tiny either. I'm realistic and know it's a big investment. If anyone could get back to me on what you think that would be great. Thanks in advance.


Posted by nrjizer on Apr-15-2002 06:30:

Your going to need headphones, a mixer, and of course, working speakers. Headphone wise, well, ask gluegun on that one, he knows best. Numark and Vestax make excellent budget mixers. Pick one up and you should be set!


Posted by Veldrid on Apr-15-2002 17:26:

Well if I was gonna do CD decks this is the route I would go...

DECKS: Pioneer CDJ100's - $299 each at www.123dj.com
MIXER: Vestax PCV-275 - $389 at www.123dj.com
HEADPHONES: Sennheiser HD280 (Amazing Headphones!!) - $84 www.hificoncepts.com

If the Vestax PCV-275 is a little to much in price for ya chech out the lower end PCV-175. Also www.hoolywooddj.com will beat 123dj's prices by $25 on each of these items, only thing is I hear they aren't the most reliable company. I ordered my mixer from them though.

Hope this helps some.


Posted by sym on Apr-15-2002 19:27:

Thanks for the help, I could use some more personal and real time help if it's possible... Does anyone have AIM? If so you can reach me @ SyM2oo1. Thanks alot.


Posted by Werewolf on Apr-15-2002 20:09:

u said that u dont have huge budget, ok...
why dont u buy only 1 TT and a cheap mixer. So u can start mixing with your PC and TT. In time, when u have more money, u buy second TT, and some more vinyls etc...

btw. cd decks aren't cheap either...


Posted by sym on Apr-15-2002 22:21:

but there is no need to buy vinyl ;P. If anyone has AIM who thinks they could help, Like I said AIM me @ SyM2oo1


Posted by Dj Flesch on Apr-16-2002 00:20:

I've got a pair of cdj100's and a djm-600 and I must say that they are a great buy. The mixer is very expensive (around $1200 or so USD) but it's also one of the best mixers, IMO. I'd also suggest starting out on a cheaper mixer anyway, and that way you will not only appreciate the better mixers, but if you get stuck with a crappy mixer live, you can still deal with it.


Posted by t0ast! on Apr-16-2002 00:39:

i'm actually in the same boat here...i currently use VTT and an external mixer to do my mixes, but i'd like to move to CD decks in the summer when i get some $$....i was looking at one of the gemini decks, or the numark axis series..

any info on those?

i don;t wanna drop too much on CD decks...otherwise i'd just get vinyl..and i don;t have the $$ to start buying vinyls...


Posted by DJDan-B on Apr-16-2002 03:25:

Confused

NEVER BUY NUMARK OR GEMINI CD PLAYERS, NEVER.

The main reason is bad pitch precision, after a while, the quick start can have a 1 second delay (something you really don't want) and also crappy system by itself.

If you want to keep your cd players of a while and get the best out of them, get Denon or Pioneer, the rest is ... i know, i tried around 6 Numarks and 4 gemin.. damn, stay away form them...

Headphones; you don't need the top of the line stuff, if it's for small parties, almost anything will do the job (as long as you're skilled enogh).


Posted by DJ Darchinova on Apr-16-2002 08:15:

quote:
Originally posted by DJDan-B
NEVER BUY NUMARK OR GEMINI CD PLAYERS, NEVER.

The main reason is bad pitch precision, after a while, the quick start can have a 1 second delay (something you really don't want) and also crappy system by itself.

If you want to keep your cd players of a while and get the best out of them, get Denon or Pioneer, the rest is ... i know, i tried around 6 Numarks and 4 gemin.. damn, stay away form them...

Headphones; you don't need the top of the line stuff, if it's for small parties, almost anything will do the job (as long as you're skilled enogh).


The instant start doesn't ever get slower.. that is so unlikely.. even after a few yrs..

my friend has had Gemini CD players for 2+ years now and they still start at the same speed as he got them new (0.015 sec).. they also last that long with no stuffups, etc.
probably the same deal with Numark

I dont know why you like to make bullshit up, cos u obviously haven't tried any of them in your life.. so just shut up if you dont know what your are talking about..

Anyway, get the CDJ-100's because they have the best value and resale value.

And also you will need good quality headphones.. cos small parties DO get loud and you will need heaps of noise cancelling when you are cueing up (unless you wanna go deaf). The cheapest top-quality headphones out there are the Sony MDR-V6 as you might have already figured.. they sell for around US$70-$80. But if you can't find them there are the Sony MDR7506's which are exactly the same and maybe a bit more expensive.


Posted by spectra on Apr-16-2002 21:38:

I don't know about the decks, (I have only had a brief play with some of the Pioneer CDJ's) but I can say from Glueguns recommendation that I bought the Sennheiser HD280 Pro headfones and they are awesome! I've been around all my m8s houses who mix, and none of there headfones compare to my senns, i've heard a lot of good things about the V6's tho.


Posted by DJ Darchinova on Apr-17-2002 13:23:

yeah.. the HD-280 Pro's are the best out there if you can pay the extra US$10-30 over the V6's...
definately recommended~!


Posted by DJDan-B on Apr-17-2002 19:44:

Exclamation

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Darchinova

I dont know why you like to make bullshit up, cos u obviously haven't tried any of them in your life.. so just shut up if you dont know what your are talking about..


That's a pretty agressive and mindless reply you have here...

Do you really think im talking b-sh.t here? Are you that damn sure i never tried one? How about i was working with them for couple of years?? Just because your friend had a successful product, it doesn't mean anything. I was exposed to many cd players made by Numark and some by gemini. When you say "probably same with numark", your "propably" means sh.. to me becuase it's worthless.

If you don't know for sure, do not reply. If you reply, reply correctly and watch what you saying. I do have experience with them, i do know what im talking about. I will not try to prove you what's good what's bad, if you think that numark and Gemini producing high quality and very precise cd players, them i think im loosing time by replying to you. Good luck on your next Numark, peace...


Posted by SpykeChyld on Apr-18-2002 00:28:

I can't say much about the TT's and mixers, cus I don't know alot about them, though I hopefully will soon

But headphone-wise I can persoanlly speak for the Sony MDR-V600 model.

I used to have some Koss, but when I started making music on my comp I blew them with the first nice bass beat that hit. So I got the Sony's. I love these things! They are comfortable as fuck and do a nice job cancling out the noise of parties. mine were $85, so not all that bad on the price scale, I guess. Good luck with this!


Posted by DJ Darchinova on Apr-19-2002 08:29:

quote:
Originally posted by DJDan-B


That's a pretty agressive and mindless reply you have here...

Do you really think im talking b-sh.t here? Are you that damn sure i never tried one? How about i was working with them for couple of years?? Just because your friend had a successful product, it doesn't mean anything. I was exposed to many cd players made by Numark and some by gemini. When you say "probably same with numark", your "propably" means sh.. to me becuase it's worthless.

If you don't know for sure, do not reply. If you reply, reply correctly and watch what you saying. I do have experience with them, i do know what im talking about. I will not try to prove you what's good what's bad, if you think that numark and Gemini producing high quality and very precise cd players, them i think im loosing time by replying to you. Good luck on your next Numark, peace...


Ok.. i am sorry about the agressiveness of the post but i dont appreciate unclaimed info about equipment which is 'bad.' In your post before, you didn't say anything from experience, just a bold statement. So your post was more mindless.

My friend is the managerof a DJ store, one of the largest in Perth, Australia.. and he claims that Gemini USED TO HAVE weak lasers whichlasted only a year. But with their new range of equipment and new set of laser series, the quality is going up in both CD players and mixers.

But maybe you have had experience with Gemini in the past, but when was the last time you have investigated the new line of products they have available now? I don't know much about Numark, but my friend says that the new AXIS series of CD players from them are high quality and carry similar if not better, lasers the American DJ Range (which actually do last).

So to get this straight, Gemini DID have crap lasers and quality before the turn of the century, but they now have re-established themselves with a higher quality in products than before. In other words, the CDJ-1100, CDJ-1200, CDJ-10 and older dual cd players have a chance of messing up on you. But the newer line CDJ-20 (new stock), CDJ-30, CD1800X, CD2000X, CD-400X, CDX-602, do have longer lasting and better quality lasers and specs.



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