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Posted by soupastah on Jun-27-2007 00:53:

surrogate mothers

i'm all for the test tube baby

next question: the surrogate mother process is relatively expensive about $10,000. now say the surrogate mother has a miscarriage, should you be entitled to get your money back?


Posted by FunkyCrew on Jun-27-2007 01:25:

Re: surrogate mothers

quote:
Originally posted by soupastah
i'm all for the test tube baby

next question: the surrogate mother process is relatively expensive about $10,000. now say the surrogate mother has a miscarriage, should you be entitled to get your money back?


i say they have attempt #2 for free

as a whole I think it's a great idea, for couples who are incapable of bearing children, as long as those mothers don't run off with the money and the kid


Posted by Zentac_75 on Jun-27-2007 02:47:

Why pay domestic prices when you can go international and pay half price !!!!


$5000 in India...

But seriously, read the article, it should answer a question or two, while raising new ones.

And I've read elsewhere these transactions are COD.


Wombs for Rent


Posted by lopi on Jun-27-2007 03:02:

I would never consider being a surrogate mother, however, if I had the money, I would seriously consider paying for one.


Posted by bourgeois on Jun-27-2007 20:08:

First off...this is Alex...I should seriously get my on account so I can stop using Carl's...but you know how it goes.

Anyhow, I couldn't resist because I was acutally thinking about this the other day...so here's my question:

Who gets the maternity leave from work? The mother who's now caring for the child, or the mother recovering from physically carrying it for 9 months? And I guess that brings up the argument of what the maternity leave is actually for...recovery for an exhausted body? or familiarising yourself with a new life all around?

In adoption for instance...you only get 9 months of mat leave as opposed to the regular 12. Does it make sense?

It's a tough one...I can't figure it out.


Posted by Abercrombie on Jun-27-2007 21:58:

I've offered to help my lesbian friend (since my teens) that if she and her longtime girlfriend of many years wanted a child, I'd help with that... with a solid no-responsibility contract of course.


Posted by soupastah on Jun-27-2007 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Zentac_75

Wombs for Rent


LOVED IT

this is what i'm saying, help the poor and your wife at the same time. the poll should have been would you USE a surrogate mother, would have been more interesting...
think of all the advantages, you don't have to go through labor (u simply get someone else to do it for you) you still get your mat leave if you want it and I don't have to watch my wife GO through labor because i figure it would suck more than it would be funny, you don't have to drop your life for nine months, in fact you can make them the craziest what KNOWing your kid is coming, don't lose out on your back or your career, i don't have dim down the sex life for 6 months, and ofcourse no stretch marks. why make your wife go through that crap if you don't have to, i mean if you have the $$$$$$$ right?

win win win win win win win win win win win win

i think instead of getting your money back there should be a bonus, succesful birth = and extra 2grand.
kid makes it to harvard and extra 5


Posted by FunkyCrew on Jun-27-2007 22:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
I've offered to help my lesbian friend (since my teens) that if she and her longtime girlfriend of many years wanted a child, I'd help with that... with a solid no-responsibility contract of course.


make sure you guys actually sign some sort of an agreement, you never know how things can turn out later

re: maternity leave - that's a hard question tbh... I always thought the 1 year leave is actually for the woman to recover physically and emotionally, as well as to get closer with the baby, rather then the other way around


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jun-27-2007 22:15:

If it was only about 'recovering' then maternity leave wouldnt allow either parent to take it, mother or father.

i think at first, yeah, there's a recovery time being factored in so ur not losing pay.

After that, its all about support for that first 9 months or year, so either parents can be close w/ teh client, not paying a baby sitter or day care (too young for either... most day cares wont take kids till they are atleast 2 years old anyways), and to bound with the parents.

edit: yeah, and the whole frequent feeding factor too comes up too.


I am very glad that fathers have the ability to take the maternity as well. All, or a portion. My buddy Johnny, his wife took the first half from her job, and he took the 1/2 half of the alloted time from his job. It was great.

Whos the say that mother only should have that time off. Baby should be bonding with both parents equally, ideally, IMO.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Jun-27-2007 22:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
I am very glad that fathers have the ability to take the maternity as well. All, or a portion. My buddy Johnny, his wife took the first half from her job, and he took the 1/2 half of the alloted time from his job. It was great.

Whos the say that mother only should have that time off. Baby should be bonding with both parents equally, ideally, IMO.


I concur, that's the best way, 50/50 maternity leave
Something I'd suggest to my future husband for sure, when the future baby(ies) arrive(s)


Posted by Al on Jun-28-2007 02:39:

it would be an act of desperation when 2 run out of options. . . but don't really care, it's there for those who wanna use it.

I couldn't live with the idea of raising kids with genes other than mine .
and the50/50 maternity thing, it's pretty nifty, gives both parents time to bond with their newborn.


Posted by Zentac_75 on Jun-28-2007 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by jeeper_095
it would be an act of desperation when 2 run out of options. . . but don't really care, it's there for those who wanna use it.

I couldn't live with the idea of raising kids with genes other than mine .
and the50/50 maternity thing, it's pretty nifty, gives both parents time to bond with their newborn.


The kids would have only your genes. An embryo created from your sperm and your wifes eggs is transplanted into the surrogate mother for the duration of the gestation period.

It is 100% your DNA, it just spends the first 8 1/2 months of its exsistance in the 'rent a womb'.

I also agree that maternity leave is vital to the babies development as it has missed out on the bonding that happens with its natural mother while still in the womb.


Posted by Yohan on Jun-28-2007 20:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Zentac_75
I also agree that maternity leave is vital to the babies development as it has missed out on the bonding that happens with its natural mother while still in the womb.

Well, since the baby doesn't 'feel' the bond while in a woman's womb, so the maternity would be just for the mom's benefit?


Posted by rabbitjoker on Jun-28-2007 20:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
I am very glad that fathers have the ability to take the maternity


Fathers take PATERNITY leave.


Posted by Zentac_75 on Jun-28-2007 20:41:

During the surrogate pregnancy, the child is bonding with the rent - a-womb, her habits, her voice, her diet etc. Then once born, the baby has to re-bond with the natural (but new) mother.

The comfort of a mother's voice is not as effective if the baby has never heard the mother's voice before.

It's all a rich tapestry I'm sure. ANYway, cudos to people with the financial means to raise a child getting one, and cudos to the woman who have fertile wombs putting them to good use.

Aside from how odd it may seem, I think surrogate mothers are a great idea. Though I acknowledge I am grossly unaware of the psychological effects this may have on the woman/children involved.


Posted by Yohan on Jun-28-2007 20:47:

Well, does it really matter when parenthood is more of a 'conditioning' than biological?

I've seen adopted kids have way better parents than biological ones, if you understand what I'm trying to get at


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jun-28-2007 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Fathers take PATERNITY leave.

Oh yeah.


Posted by Zentac_75 on Jun-29-2007 03:39:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
Well, does it really matter when parenthood is more of a 'conditioning' than biological?

I've seen adopted kids have way better parents than biological ones, if you understand what I'm trying to get at


I absolutely do. That's why I am all for surrogate mothers. Let the people with the financial means and honest desire to raise children get them.


Posted by soupastah on Jun-30-2007 01:07:

there's really such thing as paternity leave??

i'm looking for a wife tomorrow, and a surrogate mother the day after


Posted by FunkyCrew on Jun-30-2007 17:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Zentac_75
Let the people with the financial means and honest desire to raise children get them.


absolutely
I would also like to point out that the sex of both parents seeking surrogate mother shouldn't be an issue too



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