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So I was told to bring this to this sub-forum. Anyways, I'm going DJ and mix, and I'm not too sure if I want to do vinyl or CD's. I think vinyl will be fun, but im worried about breaking it or something I dont know, or having it be too hard for a very beginning dj, so thats why I might be cd, but really I dont know. Which do you guys think is better for a starting DJ. Getting Access to Vinyl isn't a problem, and I already have hundreds of blank CD's.

well if u have an idea of how to do the basics, ie: beatmatching then i would point u in the direction of vinyl. u wont regret it. also, they are not as delicate as u seem to think.

if u havent really got a clue wot u are doing i think u would be better to give c's a try cos even if u cant beatmatch for shit u will usually have loads of kool features to have fun with while trying, ie: loops/fx/genrally quicker to cue/etc (tho not all cd decks have the above features, many have at least 2 of them)

if u plan on just doing this as a hobby and never likely to leave ur bedroom, for now i would say cd... if u r thinking that once u get to grips with everything that u would want to play in clubs then i would say vinyl.

CD vs Vinyl is a never ending debate.
But a few facts stand.

• Buying tracks digitally and on CDs is a much cheaper option than buying vinyl, which leaves a lot more money for some sweet ass equipment.
  
• Taking a box of vinyl to a club is a bitch! CDs are much more portable.
  
• Getting tracks when you want them then and there is much easier with CD
  
• With CDs it is easier to have backups of all your tracks
  
• Vinyl for many though, is a lot more fun
  
• And just because... Many 'big' DJs use CDs
  

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Originally posted by T-Soma # Getting tracks when you want them then and there is much easier with CD

While I agree with most of the things said, I'd just like to point out that for the most part...hard to find tracks and exclusives are much easier to get (especially ahead of time) on vinyl than digitally. I find that a vast number of rarities and hard-to-find or exclusive tracks are easily available weeks or even sometimes months before their digital releases, on vinyl.

Most likely a tactic to help keep the vinyl market alive but I just wanted to point this out.

and to go back to the topic...it's been discussed to death.

start on vinyl

you'll be happy with yourself in the future


you'll have to use your ears more and pick tracks more carefully, which will make you a better dj

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Originally posted by nefardec start on vinyl you'll be happy with yourself in the future you'll have to use your ears more and pick tracks more carefully, which will make you a better dj

Right on man! I've said it before, but if you can mix on vinyl, you can mix on anything.

I represent a store that specializes in vinyl and I will be the first to admit that I often use CD's. But in an industry where you need to differentiate yourself from other DJ's by having a unique track selection, vinyl presents much more opportunity. I see so many mixes (even by top DJ's) that are all tracks from the beatport top 100. You can always find some really great, unique, rare tracks on vinyl that are not released for digital distribution. You can also find white label and bootleg mixes that you won't find released digitally.

Just my two cents.

yeah once I Get the hang of things, I do plan to leave my bedroom and go out to DJ. From what I have read, I'm going vinyl, because yes I do know the basics, how to beatmatch, count back to one and other things. Can any of you point me in the general direct of some turntables and a mixer that are good, because honestly I dont have the lightest clue.

that's awesome. you'll find you never liked music more than when you start buying records.

the key though regardless of medium is to find what it is you like because you like it. listen to many things and eventually you will start devloping a sound. if you go to the record stores and just buy whatever is on display as popular or new, you will just be another guy playing popular records

i play with cds mostly now, but I still go to the record store and buy vinyl records as well. Nothing is more fun than pulling off a great mix live on vinyl

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Originally posted by Oreoh142 Can any of you point me in the general direct of some turntables and a mixer that are good, because honestly I dont have the lightest clue.

The absolute most important thing in getting a pair of turntables is that they are Direct Drive. If there were an industry standard, it would be the Technics 1200 MK2's. Numark, Vestax, and Stanton make some good ones too.

I know i sound like a broken record (pun intended), but i recommend using Craigslist b/c you can get some great high-end stuff for a great price if it's used.

One other thing you might want to check is (fairly) new starter-kit that Stanton put together. It is a fantastic price for what you get and it looks hot. Here's a link:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/prod...Pack?sku=804028

Three years ago I wouldn't have said this, but vinyl is dead. Three years ago half the venues I was in didn't have CDJs now half the venues I'm at don't have turntables.

there a millions of options for u, it all depends on ur budget

TTs are classic but, from an investment point of view, get cdjs.

I voted for CD's and instantly regretted it.



Vinyl is so fucking sex, and I really can't describe what it felt like for me (and I'm sure for others) once I felt ultra confident beatmatching on it. But economic realities and a desire to be able to play the music I wanted to play led me to choose to ditch wax for CD's.

For new jocks, I recommend CD's solely because of the economics of the situation, and how difficult (and pricey) it can be to keep a vinyl bag stocked with relevant jams.

But I still say if you really want to get some satisfaction out of the learning process, vinyl is the way to go. I'm not saying it can't happen on CD decks, I'm saying the feeling is different.

Fuck, on thinking of it, maybe try SSL to start.

serato is actually a good call because then you can stock up on digital tracks as well

but the problem with serato is you can beatmatch with your eyes

I went for Serato because you still get to use vinyl but can get tracks cheaply. Can't find that old track on digital but have it on vinyl? No problem, just record it through Serato as well. Plus Serato WORKS!

As far as being able to Beatmatch with your eyes, it's only a problem if you RELY on it only and don't train your ears. In my case it really helped me learn to HEAR things and indentify what was going on. It actually helped my ear develop very rapidly so that now I don't use teh screen. If people say that someone is less talented because they learn differently, they are just small minded and insecure. Don't pay any attention, use what makes sense for you and have fun!

i used serato for a year


but not everyone has the desire to learn if they can do it easily and make money

So I'm getting http://www.musiciansfriend.com/prod...Pack?sku=804028
but my only question is, the mixer looks so simple and what not from others that I have seen, is that really a big deal?

as long as u have faders and eq's


just learn the basics first

dont need anything to distract u when ur starting out

I started with CDs and I didn't regret it. But it could've been either way. Vinyl is more difficult, so I guess starting with that might make it easier to switch to CDs later on (rather than going the opposite route). You won't be doing any of the complex CDJ-only stuff at first anyways.

Definitely CDs because of the money. They are cheaper and easier to buy. Plus there is no delivery time.

You can easily get some vinyl decks later on. They aren't even that expensive anymore.

even though i mix on cdj's now, i did learn on vinyl and dont regret it. its good for learning the "art" of djing. and it will develop your ears more...

then you can get serato

and then cdj's

and then ableton lol

another beginner pack... everything u'll need to start, minus speakers (i have mine connected to my hifi)

http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/pr...l_sku=101663375

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Originally posted by Spoonz another beginner pack... everything u'll need to start, minus speakers (i have mine connected to my hifi) http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/pr...l_sku=101663375

I started with a Numark pack back in the day. IMO, for the same price, I'd go for the Stanton kit. Looks solid.

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Originally posted by SPAWNmaster While I agree with most of the things said, I'd just like to point out that for the most part...hard to find tracks and exclusives are much easier to get (especially ahead of time) on vinyl than digitally. I find that a vast number of rarities and hard-to-find or exclusive tracks are easily available weeks or even sometimes months before their digital releases, on vinyl. Most likely a tactic to help keep the vinyl market alive but I just wanted to point this out. and to go back to the topic...it's been discussed to death.

well for me u could buy the track from people who ripped the tracks from vinyls into MP3's track with respect to the leagel copyrights u will get as fast as the vinyl

i don't know if anybody has said this before but just get rane serato scratch, final scratch, or torq. You can then use two vinyl turntable or cdjs depending on what the setup the club has...never will you worry about being unprepared...

and if you decide to get rane or whatever, then i would grab two turntables and a cdj-100. that way you have two turntables to get a feel of how they work...and then a cdj-100 so you understand how to use the cue system in a cd player...two quality turntables is a lot cheaper than two quality cd players...hence why i suggest this option.

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