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Why Make A Track Difficult to Mix??
Two examples:
Kris Menace: Lumberjack
Kris Menace: Fairlight
These tracks are incredibly difficult to mix because they either have an irregular/short intro or a quick fading outro or both.
Why would you produce a track like that and deliberately decrease the chances of people playing it? I can mix it - it just doesn't sound great and I'd never do it in a risky situation.
Jarv
might be a try to sound unique...not enough experience...sometimes some sequencers have timing issues...can be whatever you name...
some track just are difficult to mix...get used to it... 
Because all tracks aren't supposed to be mixed.
Re: Why Make A Track Difficult to Mix??
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| Originally posted by Jarvmeister Two examples: Kris Menace: Lumberjack Kris Menace: Fairlight These tracks are incredibly difficult to mix because they either have an irregular/short intro or a quick fading outro or both. Why would you produce a track like that and deliberately decrease the chances of people playing it? I can mix it - it just doesn't sound great and I'd never do it in a risky situation. Jarv |
This is what separates the decent dj's from the GOOD dj's. Go have a listen to some classic trance stuff. Almost none of them are really DJ friendly.
and listen to old school dj mixes and you'll see it's hardly necessary to have perfectly matching track segments for cookie cutter transitions
i have always been resentful of people who make tracks that fade out. now that i have a small studio set up, i can fix that for some songs...
to me, trance, house, techno, jungle, etc is dj music, pure and simple.
what is the point of fading out tracks anyways? i put money down on a record, i want to play it how ever i want to hear it. fading out the track at then places a restriction on that freedom. nothing kills my horny faster than using the end of track to build up the next track, then first tracks dies out (fades out) and takes that energy away with it.
someone needs to remind these jerks that fade out their tracks that every dj mixer in the world has faders, we don't need them to do it for us. i don't care about their production style... -that's up to the producer, and has nothing to do w/me... what ever they do, how ever they start, or end a track, i can deal with it... just leave the fading to me, the dj. thx
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| Originally posted by nefardec and listen to old school dj mixes and you'll see it's hardly necessary to have perfectly matching track segments for cookie cutter transitions |
Actually I don't like senseless intros and outros.
It feels like it's not part of the song.
I've been listening to a lot of Psy-trance lately and you can listen songs from the begining to the end. That is awesome, they create complete songs without the "Obvious senseless bum bum at the beginning and at the end"
I knwo the music it's supposed to be mixable, but still you are creating a song, if you wan to create a masterpiece, then you should forget about the senseless bum-bum. It should be a "song" from the beginning 'till the end.
I usually don't let much of the intro/outro play anyway. I even like cueing tracks with two breakdowns on the phrase after the first breakdown.
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| Originally posted by Pinokio I knwo the music it's supposed to be mixable, but still you are creating a song, if you wan to create a masterpiece, then you should forget about the senseless bum-bum. It should be a "song" from the beginning 'till the end. |
What a retarded question.
The guy is an artist, first and foremost artists make tracks for people to LISTEN to!
In our line of work, secondly, they make them to play/be played out by themselves and other DJs, ultimately though, to gain recognition for their track.
"Why make a track difficult to mix?"
I doubt that was the aim - it's just a by-product of wanting it to sound good if it's just played on its own, you have to be a bit more creative with the intro which then means DJs who don't know how to deal with anything other than a standard 32 bar kick & bass intro get confused.
Surely it's your job to work around the way the producer makes the track rather than the other way round?
Loads of tracks have irregular lengthed intros - just learn to work out where to position it so that it works. I remember when I used to drop Dave McCullen - 'Bitch' at the commercial house nights at our uni I'd skip forward to the point where the bassline drops in, whack the CDJ into reverse and play it backwards for 16 bars of the other tune cos that was the only way I could work out where to start it to make it drop in time lol
Re: Why Make A Track Difficult to Mix??
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| Originally posted by Jarvmeister Whay make a track difficult to mix? |
I wouldn't call "Fairlight" a very difficult track to mix into, out of IMO.
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| Originally posted by Stu Cox "Why make a track difficult to mix?" Surely it's your job to work around the way the producer makes the track rather than the other way round? |
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| Originally posted by sleepydragon yes but u still want to make a track that the big djs will want to play to give u exposure |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Because all tracks aren't supposed to be mixed. |
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| Originally posted by nefardec and listen to old school dj mixes and you'll see it's hardly necessary to have perfectly matching track segments for cookie cutter transitions |
Speaking of, what are the tracks you guys find hard to mix?
I have always found Rex The Dog's tracks to be a bitch, as well as Rui da Silva - Lixuneanos.
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| Originally posted by Beat Blog Speaking of, what are the tracks you guys find hard to mix? I have always found Rex The Dog's tracks to be a bitch, as well as Rui da Silva - Lixuneanos. |
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| Originally posted by Beat Blog Speaking of, what are the tracks you guys find hard to mix? |
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery No tracks as such, but I have a couple of bad vinyl pressings where the beats drift and they just won't stay aligned no matter what I do. |
"Why make a track difficult to mix?"
1. practise more.
2. make your own edits.
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| Originally posted by Stu Cox Loads of tracks have irregular lengthed intros - just learn to work out where to position it so that it works. I remember when I used to drop Dave McCullen - 'Bitch' at the commercial house nights at our uni I'd skip forward to the point where the bassline drops in, whack the CDJ into reverse and play it backwards for 16 bars of the other tune cos that was the only way I could work out where to start it to make it drop in time lol |
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