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Posted by shanny on Jun-29-2007 03:11:

Making the wrong decision

So often in life there are those times when a person will come to a crossroads.

I am not speaking of a literal intersection that they just pass on their way to work everyday, but I am talking about the dreaded "fork in the road".

Here...
this is what one looks like in case you are still unfamiliar with this abstract idea that I'm referring to.




Throughout history, there have been many instances in famous stories, when some of the world's great heroes have had to make the dreaded decision of which side of the fork to take.

There are quite literal examples such as the Wayne Knight (Newman) character in the epic and splendid Jurassic Park, where he is forced to turn one way or the next, just before the moment where he is eaten in a ferocious attack by the Spitt-a-sourus.



There are also of course, the metaphorical times when a person is not literally at a "fork in the road", but never the less needs to make an all important decision that involves doing one thing, and not another.

It is these pivotal moments where people's lives will change for the better or the worse. Where the Joes separate themselves from the Blows.

Everyone has the right to make whatever decision they want. Everyone has the right to make the wrong decision if they want to.

Why would you make the wrong decision though? Indecision is no help either. Look at Newman. He was eaten in his car while deciding which way the dock was, poor bastard.

There are times when it is right to exercise your rights simply because you have them and want to prove a point. There are other times when the consequences of making the bad decision are just to dire to take that chance.

So I ask all of you, when you come to a fork in the road and need to make that decision, ask yourself, "Is this the wrong decision?"

Then ask yourself, "why am I making this wrong decision?"


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jun-29-2007 03:13:

No decision is "wrong" if you come out of it having learned from your "mistake".

Personal growth, yaddayaddablahblahblah.


Posted by shanny on Jun-29-2007 03:17:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
No decision is "wrong" if you come out of it having learned from your "mistake".

Personal growth, yaddayaddablahblahblah.


That's just something people tell themselves to make them feel better about where things could have been.


Posted by Cro_Addict on Jun-29-2007 03:17:

Dood you are freakin' me out man...


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jun-29-2007 03:19:

quote:
Originally posted by shanny
That's just something people tell themselves to make them feel better about where things could have been.





Maybe people who aren't willing to be accountable for their life.


Posted by kotsy on Jun-29-2007 03:19:

I recently made what some people would call a 'wrong' decision. I left the club I was currently dj'n at for a new one that opened in town. It closed down within a month and now I'm not spinning anywhere. You learn from your mistakes, that's what makes you who you are.


"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jun-29-2007 03:22:

Dammit, I do not know why I keep opening your threads. I have to stop this.


Posted by shanny on Jun-29-2007 03:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Cro_Addict
Dood you are freakin' me out man...


Wasn't meant to be a freak out discussion, but more of a motivating one, to avoid making bad decisions.

Think of it like the start to a bad decision avoidance support group.

Sort of like how people who believe in fairies have their chant, "I do believe in fairies, I DO BELIEVE IN FAIRIES"...

...we can yell at one another saying for example...

"Hey Jennypie, way to go on wearing a bra to this year's sunset set, I'm happy that you made the right choice"


Posted by exstasie on Jun-29-2007 03:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Dammit, I do not know why I keep opening your threads. I have to stop this.


He made me want to watch Jurassic Park Right now


Posted by shanny on Jun-29-2007 03:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Dammit, I do not know why I keep opening your threads. I have to stop this.


You're just not giving them a chance, join our making the right decisions club and watch how your life turns for the better.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jun-29-2007 03:26:

quote:
Originally posted by shanny


"Hey Jennypie, way to go on wearing a bra to this year's sunset set, I'm happy that you made the right choice"





BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YET!! OMG I'M FREAKING OUT HERE!!


Posted by exstasie on Jun-29-2007 03:27:

quote:
Originally posted by shanny

"Hey Jennypie, way to go on wearing a bra to this year's sunset set, I'm happy that you made the right choice"


"HEY JENNIPIE, WAY TO GO ON WEARING A BRA TO THIS YEAR'S SUNSET SET, I'M HAPPY THAT YOU MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE"


Posted by shanny on Jun-29-2007 03:30:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
"HEY JENNIPIE, WAY TO GO ON WEARING A BRA TO THIS YEAR'S SUNSET SET, I'M HAPPY THAT YOU MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE"


Now you're getting the hang of it!!

Before long we'll be writing self help books for the masses.

"HEY JENNIPIE, WAY TO GO ON WEARING A BRA TO THIS YEAR'S SUNSET SET, I'M HAPPY THAT YOU MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE"


Posted by Zentac_75 on Jun-29-2007 03:30:

A decision can only be labeled 'right' or 'wrong' if you confine the action/reaction to a speicfic period.

If at the end of the day, one evaluates each decision and coinciding result that occurd that day, one may feel they were right or wrong.

However there are those who believe evaluating decisions over a lifetime is more appropriate. Then it is much more difficult to accurately determine whether the 'right' or 'wrong decision was made.

Furthermore, can one believe that making the 'wrong' thing to do if it results positive result ???

ie. I got drunk, was not allowed to board a flight....lost my ticket and vacation etc.... but the plane crashed and now I'm alive.

I made the wrong decision...why??? because maybe I have a drinking problem...or maybe I made the decision or self-preservation without consciously knowing about it.

I have often asked myself "why am I making this choice" because I feel that it is the wrong one.
Is it because I want to complicate my life ?
Is it a pattern I am unable to break ?
Or does it not matter what decision I make, because regardless of what I do I will feel it is the wrong decision ?

Am I a pesimist for thinking I made the wrong choices ???
Of am I an optimist for hoping that these decisions may still yield positive results in the future?

hmmmm....thought provoking thread.


Posted by eRRaTiK on Jun-29-2007 03:34:

quote:
Originally posted by kotsy
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain


Q4T.

the word "things" is interchangeable with "people"


Posted by jon jon on Jun-29-2007 03:37:

Re: Making the wrong decision

quote:
Originally posted by shanny
Look at Newman. He was eaten in his car while deciding which way the dock was, poor bastard.


lol

Good thread Shanny, it made me think.

ps. take risks


Posted by Yohan on Jun-29-2007 03:56:

Re: Re: Making the wrong decision

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
ps. take risks

+1

Even if it doesn't work out for you.

Whatever doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.


Posted by mnemonic. on Jun-29-2007 04:06:



okay there david.


Posted by Abercrombie on Jun-29-2007 04:25:

I trust my insights.

Have you read The Celestine Prophecy?


Posted by Omega_M on Jun-29-2007 04:32:

The Road Not Taken

TWO roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I�
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

-Robert Frost


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Jun-29-2007 05:11:

Re: Making the wrong decision

quote:
Originally posted by shanny
So I ask all of you, when you come to a fork in the road and need to make that decision, ask yourself, "Is this the wrong decision?"

Then ask yourself, "why am I making this wrong decision?"


(I wanted to address this issue very briefly b/c I studied it intensely last year in a few of my philosophy courses)

If anyone is seriously interested in looking at the question of whether one can choose to make the 'wrong' decision while knowing it to be wrong (as Shanny's statements seem to suggest) then I suggest you read 1) Plato's Gorgias where the claim that everybody seeks their own good ("it�s for the sake of what�s good that those who do all...things do them") is investigated, 2) Plato's Protagoras where the assertion that nobody does wrong willingly ("Now, no one goes wrong willingly toward the bad or what he believes to be bad; neither is it in human nature, so it seems, to want to go toward what one believes to be bad instead of the good") is examined, 3) Plato's Republic (chpt 4) where the case of Leontius is provided as supposed evidence for the claim that one can indeed do what one believes one ought not to, and (most of all) 4) Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics (Book VII) which features what is likely the most in-depth analysis of this issue that has ever been provided.


/end nerd post.


Posted by Swamper on Jun-29-2007 05:33:

Using the same fork in the road scenario -- often, you'll reflect on your past choices based on where you are at NOW - therein lies the assumption that had you made an alternate choice you would be 'better off' than you are NOW.

Ok, now, think back when you made the original choice - you likely weighed your options and chose the one that made sense at the time. So, why assume now that the other option(s) would have been better for you NOW? The factors/experiences you gained from your original choice have placed you in a different mindset than where you were when first presented with the fork scenario.

So, rather than re-evaluating past decisions - focus instead on your current situation and the 'forks' that lie ahead and where you predict those to lead.


Posted by girllovingtvibe on Jun-29-2007 13:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
I trust my insights.


agreed!


Posted by shanny on Jun-29-2007 14:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Using the same fork in the road scenario -- often, you'll reflect on your past choices based on where you are at NOW - therein lies the assumption that had you made an alternate choice you would be 'better off' than you are NOW.

Ok, now, think back when you made the original choice - you likely weighed your options and chose the one that made sense at the time. So, why assume now that the other option(s) would have been better for you NOW? The factors/experiences you gained from your original choice have placed you in a different mindset than where you were when first presented with the fork scenario.

So, rather than re-evaluating past decisions - focus instead on your current situation and the 'forks' that lie ahead and where you predict those to lead.


I see what your point is and it is a good one...

My original intention was to in fact make the right decision at the moment when it needs to be made, then to not need to worry about it later.

There is all kinds or potential problems with this theory because it involves looking into the past, whether you think the decision was right or wrong, and there is of course no way to know which one was better for certain for the exact reasons you have just discussed.

What I was trying to get at was live with no regrets.


Posted by The Highroller on Jun-29-2007 14:46:

I'm still not going to Lawler lol.


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