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Posted by BiG MiKE on Jun-29-2007 23:03:

Kanye West - Stronger...Ripping off Daft Punk?

Seems Kanye calls himself as "Mr. West" with his new single "Stronger."

Basically he sampled Daft Punk - Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
in the background during the hook, but uses his own lyrics for this song.

Has anyone seen this video or heard the song yet? I dunno if it was a good idea to sample Daft Punk.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Jun-29-2007 23:06:

Re: Kanye West - Stronger...Ripping off Daft Punk?

quote:
Originally posted by BiG MiKE
Seems Kanye calls himself as "Mr. West" with his new single "Stronger."

Basically he sampled Daft Punk - Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
in the background during the hook, but uses his own lyrics for this song.

Has anyone seen this video or heard the song yet? I dunno if it was a good idea to sample Daft Punk.



no but a link would help us accomplish the task.


Posted by BiG MiKE on Jun-29-2007 23:09:



No actual video yet. Saw a snippet of it on MTV.


Posted by DJ Eco on Jun-29-2007 23:14:

oh god, that represents everything i hate about hip hop.... almost as bad as when i blast David Bowie's "let's dance" out my car and some bloke says "Oh!! P. Diddy!!!"...


Posted by jerZ07002 on Jun-29-2007 23:17:

Here are my favorite lyrics from the song:

"Do anybody make real shit anymore"

Man....how i hate rap music. Those lyrics were BS. I haven't like anything since Tribe.


Posted by sot on Jun-30-2007 00:23:

weak..dunno why these hip hop guys cant make there own beats.


love the daft punk song tho

wait till u guys hear the deadmau5 remix of harder, better, faster, stronger.


Posted by zachias31 on Jun-30-2007 00:27:

C'mon now, EDM takes on other songs for its own (not just remixing), i.e. Ferry's re-do of 808 State's Cubik, so let's not get down on hip hop taking other people's beats.

Though i suppose most of your objections are to the lyrics. But still...


Posted by magikb on Jun-30-2007 00:28:

nope, haven't seen or heard it.
quite frankly, I cannot stand Kanye West. He thinks he is a gift to every person who ever walked this planet.

cocky mofo.. stay the hell outta EDM.


quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
oh god, that represents everything i hate about hip hop.... almost as bad as when i blast David Bowie's "let's dance" out my car and some bloke says "Oh!! P. Diddy!!!"...


P. Diddy needs to do the same.
Too bad he is such good friends with Morillo, now we get to put up with him interupting the sets so he can ramble on the mic or do whatever the fuck he feels like. Idiot I tell ya. A very rich idiot at that though.. lol


edit: don't get me wrong, I don't mind artists sampling other genres of music and so on, but there are just some ppl that I either just don't like or don't think should attempt this. Kanye and Diddy are 2 of those artists.


Posted by Shamez214 on Jun-30-2007 01:07:



I dig it.

And I don't think theres anything I hate more than people who hate on hip hop. 99% of people who hate hip hop only go by what they hear on the radio. Think about this in terms of EDM. If you only went by what you heard on the radio, you'd hate EDM too.

Here's a better Kanye track off his new album:



quote:

i had a dream i could buy my way to heaven,
when i awoke, i spent that on a necklace.
i told god i'd be back in a second.
man, it's so hard not to act reckless.


Posted by magikb on Jun-30-2007 01:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
And I don't think theres anything I hate more than people who hate on hip hop. 99% of people who hate hip hop only go by what they hear on the radio. Think about this in terms of EDM. If you only went by what you heard on the radio, you'd hate EDM too.


I would agree with you on that statement. Although, when I speak about hip hop I don't just base it on what I hear on the radio these days. I actually have knowledge behind it all considering that was all I ever listened to before EDM came into my musical interests.

So if you wer referring to me and my comments at all. I have full reason behind and and don't hate hip hop, there are just some people in the industry that I can't stand and will make comments about. For the most part, I still really enjoy listening to it every now and again


Posted by ReenTeenTeen on Jun-30-2007 02:06:

I dun get it. I thought he was like this huge music writtin talent.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Jun-30-2007 02:26:

quote:
Originally posted by zachias31
C'mon now, EDM takes on other songs for its own (not just remixing), i.e. Ferry's re-do of 808 State's Cubik, so let's not get down on hip hop taking other people's beats.

Though i suppose most of your objections are to the lyrics. But still...


I love hip hop beats....but you're absolutely right, I hate the lyrics. Commercial or non commercial, i don't care if you're a baller, if you have girls, what you're driving, etc....

To be fair, i also don't dig for the underground stuff, but to me it's not worth it.


Posted by kadomony on Jun-30-2007 03:12:

quote:
Originally posted by sot
wait till u guys hear the deadmau5 remix of harder, better, faster, stronger.


its sooooo sikkkkk

Mark Ronson - Oh My God (Chris Lake Remix) blows it out of the water though :P


Posted by steven-neil on Jun-30-2007 03:46:

edm has been sampling and ripping off all genres of music forever...get over it...hip hop,,pop and rock is constantly getting ripped...


Posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 on Jun-30-2007 08:32:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
I love hip hop beats....but you're absolutely right, I hate the lyrics. Commercial or non commercial, i don't care if you're a baller, if you have girls, what you're driving, etc....

To be fair, i also don't dig for the underground stuff, but to me it's not worth it.


I have to say as much as i dont like Kanye West because of the fact that he is cocky, i still think some of his tracks are pretty good. But yeh i listen to real hip hop music too, there are still some out there, honestly i cant stand the music thats being played on today's radio's, although there are tons of hip hop artists who don't talk about pimps,hoes',grills in the underground world.... MC's like KRS One, Jern Eye, EL-P, Immortal Technique, Mr. Lif, Akir,etc

here are some clips:

Immortal Technique


Jern Eye


Sway & King Tech


Posted by PvDoBseSSioN on Jun-30-2007 14:23:

well daft punk has to make money somehow


even though i hate the idea and couldn't believe it when i saw it


Posted by biznology on Jul-01-2007 10:03:

prolly sampling the new Maroon 5 song, which i feel rips off DP in some way. but maybe not|


not the MTV one, one on the album...


Posted by BiG MiKE on Jul-01-2007 10:44:

quote:
Originally posted by steven-neil
edm has been sampling and ripping off all genres of music forever...get over it...hip hop,,pop and rock is constantly getting ripped...


I've understood that since I first got into EDM. Just making a thread.


Posted by DJ Eco on Jul-01-2007 13:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
And I don't think theres anything I hate more than people who hate on hip hop. 99% of people who hate hip hop only go by what they hear on the radio. Think about this in terms of EDM. If you only went by what you heard on the radio, you'd hate EDM too.



Yeah, but the general direction in ALL artists has gone commercial... I used to dig in the crates and listen to shit like Black-Eyed Peas for example when they were nobodies, it was AWESOME! Then look where their sound went, and they're not the only ones... every artist I ever liked or viewed as a diamond in the rough always takes a HUGE turn for the worst... That's why for years I don't bother digging in the crates for hip hop cos shit's all the same.. And the few underground tunes I do hear are just more gangster stories about guns and violence, something I think only very few (Ghostface and Raekwon) can actually capture my attention with..


Posted by Shamez214 on Jul-01-2007 15:57:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
Yeah, but the general direction in ALL artists has gone commercial...


I don't know. Maybe it's because my first love is hip-hop. I always have artists who aren't commercial.

Cyne

Slum Village

In-Q

Supastition

And then there are some commercial rappers, like Lil Wayne, who come very correct on their non-radio songs.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Jul-01-2007 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
Yeah, but the general direction in ALL artists has gone commercial... I used to dig in the crates and listen to shit like Black-Eyed Peas for example when they were nobodies, it was AWESOME! Then look where their sound went, and they're not the only ones... every artist I ever liked or viewed as a diamond in the rough always takes a HUGE turn for the worst... That's why for years I don't bother digging in the crates for hip hop cos shit's all the same.. And the few underground tunes I do hear are just more gangster stories about guns and violence, something I think only very few (Ghostface and Raekwon) can actually capture my attention with..


you can't hate on any artist for going commercial. Making music is their jobs and they should make as much money as they can. No one would expect you to turn down a promotion if it was offered to you.


Posted by DJ Eco on Jul-01-2007 21:10:

Well we can hate on people going commercial and we do it all the time haha... PVD letting his song play in a Motorola commercial isn't really the commercialism I'm talking about... PVD having a singer with a Pussycat Doll is the commercialism I'm talking about and I'm sure the high majority of TAs are gunna give him flack for it... Just like when I think about artists I used to like in hip hop turn totally 180 degress into making nonsense club-rap songs that SELL....

"shake that laffy taffy, what? that laffy taffy... shake that laffy taffy..."

That's one out of dozens of songs that give me the right to hate on hip hop as we know it today hahaha... not to mention Black-Eyed Peas... I guess whoever said the hip hop being bad on the radio like dance music being bad on the radio is right, and I've just lost interest in it? So he's probably right about that.


Posted by southbound24 on Jul-01-2007 22:57:

ok im gonna go for the obvious here- Big Mike ripopin on Hip Hop??????????????????????????????????????????, ummmmmmmmmmmm you do realize................



( I still love u Big Mike, dont hurt me at Armin)


Posted by jerZ07002 on Jul-02-2007 01:44:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
Well we can hate on people going commercial and we do it all the time haha... PVD letting his song play in a Motorola commercial isn't really the commercialism I'm talking about... PVD having a singer with a Pussycat Doll is the commercialism I'm talking about and I'm sure the high majority of TAs are gunna give him flack for it... Just like when I think about artists I used to like in hip hop turn totally 180 degress into making nonsense club-rap songs that SELL....

"shake that laffy taffy, what? that laffy taffy... shake that laffy taffy..."

That's one out of dozens of songs that give me the right to hate on hip hop as we know it today hahaha... not to mention Black-Eyed Peas... I guess whoever said the hip hop being bad on the radio like dance music being bad on the radio is right, and I've just lost interest in it? So he's probably right about that.


my only point is that if someone is going to criticize an artist for chasing money that person should think about their own situation. You wouldn't turn down a raise, would you???? If you're talking about shitty content, well, that's a totally different story.


Posted by Shamez214 on Jul-02-2007 02:58:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
my only point is that if someone is going to criticize an artist for chasing money that person should think about their own situation. You wouldn't turn down a raise, would you???? If you're talking about shitty content, well, that's a totally different story.


Yeah, but I mean... it's entertainment. Some artists start just for the fun and love of it, realize there's no money there, and then change their style. Only the best rappers can get away with that. Nas & Jay immediately come to mind.

In anycase, my main point was always that there is definitely good hip hop out there. First, you have to dig a little deeper than 97.1 and 105.1 to find it. Second, you have to be slightly more open minded and realize that hip hop will never again sound like it did from '93 to '98. Music evolves. That's just the way it is. If you're hoping that one day you'll hear something like '93 'til Infinity on the radio, you'll be waiting forever 'cause it isn't gonna happen. But... dig around a little bit, and you'll find stuff like this:




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