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90's Trance

Well I was listening to Oakie in Ibiza back in 99, and it is a great set. I didn't get into edm until 2002, and I haven't listen to all of these "great 90's trance sets". Do you have any recommendations? preferably with download links

You should check out this thread: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...402&forumid=12&
There's alot of good sets in there, you should definitely listen to the goa mix from Oakenfold in 1994, it's in that thread.

90's trance was pretty dope, no vst's existed, it was all analogue and it had soul and warmth and phatness

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Originally posted by Andr�meda 90's trance was pretty dope, no vst's existed, it was all analogue and it had soul and warmth and phatness

Haha, you're a tool.

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Originally posted by Andr�meda 90's trance was pretty dope, no vst's existed, it was all analogue and it had soul and warmth and phatness

No. Producers used samplers and digital synthesis as well, like Yamaha DX-series, Korg Wavestation, Roland JV-series etc. For example, Gerald Becker aka Virtual Symmetry used only Ensoniq ASR-10 sampler. But yeah, no vst existed before 1997 and trance had soul. It was originally subgenre of techno, that's why it was more underground and wasn't that formulaic than now

Essential Mix 4 - Pete Tong // Paul Oakenfold (1996).

Fantastic stuff. Still have the cassettes actually!

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Originally posted by humilis No. Producers used samplers and digital synthesis as well, like Yamaha DX-series, Korg Wavestation, Roland JV-series etc. For example, Gerald Becker aka Virtual Symmetry used only Ensoniq ASR-10 sampler. But yeah, no vst existed before 1997 and trance had soul. It was originally subgenre of techno, that's why it was more underground and wasn't that formulaic than now

well usually the samples that where in those samplers came from analog sources becuase vsts didn't exist, and yes i have the yamaha DX7 and it sounds way better than any vst i have and their both digital. Plus not everyone who made trance had a dx7, it varies, kthanx.

and the samples from the JV series had to come from analog source cuz vsts didn't exist in the 80's ooh double snapper

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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex Haha, you're a tool.

your a newb

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Originally posted by Andr�meda well usually the samples that where in those samplers came from analog sources becuase vsts didn't exist, and yes i have the yamaha DX7 and it sounds way better than any vst i have and their both digital. Plus not everyone who made trance had a dx7, it varies, kthanx. and the samples from the JV series had to come from analog source cuz vsts didn't exist in the 80's ooh double snapper

Yeah, people should use samples more than vst these days, if they haven't got any analog hardware. Vst generated "analog" sound is shitty compared to real analog. I agree trance was mostly based on samples from analog sources in 90s, so it sounded better in most cases than any new trance generated by vst "anaglog" synths. But if you ask new producers to use samples instead of vsts, you will get an answer "you can do anything with software if you know how". Those fucking amateur producers haven't heard any hardware ever

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Originally posted by humilis Yeah, people should use samples more than vst these days, if they haven't got any analog hardware. Vst generated "analog" sound is shitty compared to real analog. I agree trance was mostly based on samples from analog sources in 90s, so it sounded better in most cases than any new trance generated by vst "anaglog" synths. But if you ask new producers to use samples instead of vsts, you will get an answer "you can do anything with software if you know how". Those fucking amateur producers haven't heard any hardware ever

exactly everyone says that, its just a word of mouth.

here i'll do a comparison, Analog Bassline Vs Vst Style Bassline

Pulser-My Religion Vs 8 Wonders-Sex On The Beach

Now they are both talented and i bet they can ahieve the same theoritcal results portrayed by the ta amatuers in TA productions page when trying to ahieve the richness and quality of an analogue synth using a vst.

and yes the pulser track has more soul, you can see why

Look for the Jason Porter mixes posted a couple of months ago. Otherwise you can look also for the old essential mixes or the clubnight sets.

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Originally posted by Andr�meda your a newb

Because the definition of a newb is someone who's been producing for five years, someone who spent much of his free time in that period reading about synthesis everywhere he could find it. That's totally what a newb is. It's certainly not someone who doesn't know the difference between you're and your.

And no, and I can't see why the Pulser track has more soul. I think you're just convincing yourself of something you already believe.

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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex Because the definition of a newb is someone who's been producing for five years, someone who spent much of his free time in that period reading about synthesis everywhere he could find it. That's totally what a newb is. It's certainly not someone who doesn't know the difference between you're and your. And no, and I can't see why the Pulser track has more soul. I think you're just convincing yourself of something you already believe.

well all those years were a waste if you can't tell the difference between those 2 songs, and if you can't see why the pusler has more soul, thats your problem.

you just admitted your quantum newb like act

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Originally posted by Andr�meda well all those years were a waste if you can't tell the difference between those 2 songs, and if you can't see why the pusler has more soul, thats your problem. you just admitted your quantum newb like act

Wow. You're right. These two tracks aren't intentionally produced in different styles as my newb mind previously thought. The difference is not in the actual processing of the sound, but is inherent in the instrument used, thus relinquishing the producer of any need for skill whatsoever. If one wants to acheive the malaproprism known as soul, one needs only possess an analog synth. Soul doesn't come from the artist at all, it comes from the instrument. It makes so much sense.

And drawing the link between your own bias and my judgment based on years of, obviously worthless, self-education, thus proving that I am, indeed, a newb was a stroke of genious. Your logic is flawless. Furthermore, since you know what quantum means and I don't, you must obviously be far beyond my level in knowledge and intelligence. I submit to your boundless wisdom, and hereby quit forever the pursuit of producing music. Obviously I have devoted myself to the wrong hobby, and now you have shown me the light.

Or maybe I could just go buy an analog synth, and my music will have soul!

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Originally posted by Andr�meda well all those years were a waste if you can't tell the difference between those 2 songs, and if you can't see why the pusler has more soul, thats your problem. you just admitted your quantum newb like act

Define "soul".

This argument comes up all the time. Analog vs digital, decks vs ableton, cds vs vinyl, old vs new, etc.

Its just different ways of doing the same thing. Personally if you want to go back and learn how to use decks instead of software or you want all your shit on vinyl, or whatever then more power to you. But at the same time you shouldn't have to go learn how to ride a horse before you can learn to drive a car if you don't want to.

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Originally posted by XaNaX But at the same time you shouldn't have to go learn how to ride a horse before you can learn to drive a car if you don't want to.

But cars don't have soul.

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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex But cars don't have soul.

What if the car is actually a Transformer?

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Originally posted by Sykonee What if the car is actually a Transformer?

Lmao yea so at the theater i work at. . . we picked the masterlock to open up the Transformers movie thats comming out tomorrow (well it only took about 3 hrs and 10000 different number combinations). . . and watched it tonight. . . AWESOME

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Originally posted by jessbabi5zero Lmao yea so at the theater i work at. . . we picked the masterlock to open up the Transformers movie thats comming out tomorrow (well it only took about 3 hrs and 10000 different number combinations). . . and watched it tonight. . . AWESOME

I have a job for you. Copy this to a disk, and give it to the Chinese bootleggers. I want to see this movie on the shelves at the local Wu Mei by the fifth at least, or it's you head.

That movie's coming out on the 11th here in China. The 11th.

Re: 90's Trance

While the classic analog junos, the drum machines, the 303s still had their place in production after the mid 90s most trance was made mostly on virtual analog synths (that just means DSP digital) such as the jp-8000, the virus, the clavia e.c.t.
These synths DO sound better that vsts but they also cost a lot more.
VSTS back then sounded like software. When certain programs came out that sounded good enough it gave a lot more producers the opportunity to get into the game.
While vsts still have a way to go before they can sonically compete with hardware maybe in ten years the industry will be software only and the software will be able to mach the quality of their hardware cousins.

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