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Can someone please post a list with some techno essentials? I mean just like with trance, techno will also have some really 'classic tunes'. I know this is a trance forum, but I also know that there's some techno lovers out here. And because there are very few great trance tracks released at the moment I want to expand my horizons a little and also try some techno. A few songs I really like are listed here, so you'll get an idea of what techno music I listen to right now:

Chris Liebing - Analogon EP
Devilfish - Man Alive
Elektrochemie LK - Schall (Thomas Schumacher Remix)
Mauro Picotto - Bug
Mauro Picotto - Baguette
Mauro Picotto - Awesome!!!
Plastikman - Spastik
Slam - Lifetimes (I just can't believe this is called techno!)
Speedy J - Electric Deluxe
Speedy J - Kreck
The Hacker - Nothing Lasts (Oxia Remix)
Thomas Schumacher - Ficken (IMO this is a classic!)
Thomas Schumacher - When I Rock (this one definitely rocks)
Toneking - Pneu
Umek - Gatex

Check these thread's:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=37339

en

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...=&threadid=3119

Thanks man! Haven't seen those threads.
(Zitten idd vette nummertjes tussen, bedankt!)

Crystal method - Now is the time (don't know what you'd call classic though) I really like...if I'm getting the wrong definition of 'techno' just tell me and I'll try to come up with different suggestions

Go find these two albums (even if you don't like detroit techno)

Kenny Larkin - Metaphor
Kenny Larkin - Azimuth

Other required

Luke Slater @ Berlin Loveparade 2001
Jeff Mills and Laurent Garnier - I Love Techno 1999
Misstress Barbara - Essential Mix (27/01/02)
Carl Cox @ DanceValley 2001
Ben Sims - Hipertension @ R3 (unknown date)
Sven Vath @ Mayday 2001
DJ Bellie @ Shockers (or most recent set)

asd

tta: date of ben sims set is 03-06-2001

Ben Sims - Live at HiperTension R3 (03-06-2001)


greetz

Thanks for the help guys. Really appreciate it. BTW Kirby, with 'classic tunes' I mean tunes that are spun even years after their release. Such as CJ Bolland's The Prophet or Delerium's Silence (and then ofcourse the Ti�sto Remix). Some techno classic tunes are e.g. Speedy J - Pull Over (??? Remix) or Thomas Schumacher - When I Rock.

The first insanely nice techno track I ever heard was Prodigy - Firestarter.

I think that's definatly a classic. More mainstream, but still classic techno.

Prodigy ain't THAT mainstream... I luv em anyways...
What genre would you describe them?

Anyways...
While you're at it, I wud luv it if people would list as many sub-genres to Techno and give an example or 2 for each sub, to emphasize the difference...

you can ad fabio mc - klaube, that's the first track that mauro @ innercity 2001 played (and finally identified ), i just love it.

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Originally posted by Nook you can ad fabio mc - klaube, that's the first track that mauro @ innercity 2001 played (and finally identified ), i just love it.

Identified by me by the way

and it's not klaube - it's klaude

I really like the idea oDrori mentioned about making a list of sub-genres with examples. By this it's easier to post 'techno essentials' within a particular techno-genre. Kirby posted Crystal Method - Now Is The Time as one of his favourite tracks, but I really don't like that kind of techno. I'm more into the harder techno sound like Mauro Picotto spins. And producers like Thomas Schumacher, Chris Liebing, Speedy J. I definitely don't like the 'slowdown' techno. (BTW I downloaded Fabio MC - Percutor today and I really love it, so I will try Klaube as well. Thanks for the tip Nook).

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Re: Techno Essentials

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Originally posted by Djeebie Chris Liebing - Analogon EP Devilfish - Man Alive Elektrochemie LK - Schall (Thomas Schumacher Remix) Mauro Picotto - Bug Mauro Picotto - Baguette Mauro Picotto - Awesome!!! Plastikman - Spastik Slam - Lifetimes (I just can't believe this is called techno!) Speedy J - Electric Deluxe Speedy J - Kreck The Hacker - Nothing Lasts (Oxia Remix) Thomas Schumacher - Ficken (IMO this is a classic!) Thomas Schumacher - When I Rock (this one definitely rocks) Toneking - Pneu Umek - Gatex

um: why am i missing Jeff Mills? DJ Rush completely?

I mean nothing against the amount of nice German DJ's on there.. but i think DJ Rush has some nice essential stuff that you need, as well as Mills and Sven V�th.

get some stuff by Glenn Wilson, i love his hard techno. Tunes like System copy, Nano clone, d-drive and cloaked

AG link for Cloaked, this track rocks!

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Detroit Techno - the mother subgenre of all techno music and at the same time, the most boring IMHO (yes, torontotrance it IS boring ) Even minimal techno sounds better to me

Ya know....if i was rude.....i'd completely wreck you but since i like you as a person and value your opinion.....ima leave it. Honestly ppl , don't write off detroit techno or european techno...i'd keep an open mind and yes.....jeff mills does rule and btw....someone find me a damn tracklist for that ben sims @ hipertension set eh.

Interesting.....i know it is in your opinion. Tomorrow i'll post the essential techno albums.......(made up of european and american techno)

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Originally posted by torontotrance Honestly ppl , don't write off detroit techno or european techno...i'd keep an open mind and yes.....jeff mills does rule

that is so nicely said. I am really into the 'new' style of Liebing etc. in Germany, nice and hard stuff

I fell in love with Mills after listening to his live-set from Distillery, Leipzig.. I had part 1 only for the longest time, finally i got the second one too

the new is in quotation marks, since it is more of a return to detroid style techno

howd you miss mumps - mechanisms e ???
its umek!

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Originally posted by USSR Junkie Hard Techno - no comments (i just say that this stuff mostly come from GERMANY and ENGLAND) Some *very* good examples: anything by ALEXANDER K. KATZ (Especially Envenom and Seek & Destroy), by Andreas Kr�mer (especially his Der R�cher with Thomas Pogadl), by Paul Damage, by Kay D. Smith (especially Face Smasher), by Harald Klotzberg, by Schall & Rauch, by Westwood Bros (Smith + Katz), by T. Papst... also Chris McCormack - Cracked Stomper feat. Basscar - Die Steinigung Marco Bailey - Sygno Power Planetary Assault Systems - Voodoo Lost Disciple - Drug User Ironbase - Maschine Eisenbass (Nostromo Remix) Lawrie Immersion - Late Again anything by JEFF AMADEUS on SQUAT label, by crew of Dave Preece on SUMP label... etc.

Thanks. Finally somebody have put an updated label on the techno I like. Usually when I ask for eauropean hard techno, people immediatly start suggesting schranz, which is not a subset of what you described there, right?
If you have anymore suggestions in this genre please don't hesitate to mention them.

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Originally posted by USSR Junkie Detroit Techno - the mother subgenre of all techno music and at the same time, the most boring IMHO (yes, torontotrance it IS boring ) Even minimal techno sounds better to me

Agreed

For the main point: I'll list some of the tracks I consider classics ("Pull over" was one of them), this afternoon.

For me, anything by Umek and Dave The Drummer! Oh and anything on the Hydraulix record label.

hmm

this is da pure shit :
the painintheass-techno

some hours with these songs, and you are f00ked for the rest of your life (remember 146++bpm)


Chris Liebing - The Biggest 10 Inches I've Ever Seen (Major Rush Remix) (CL-RETRY04)
Marco Cannata - Blood is Heavier than Water (Advent remix)
Glen Wilson - The Call
Chris Liebing - Ping Pong Pinapple (MASTERS003)
W. J�rg Henze - Red Book (SPIEL015)
Square - Unknown Synthetic (ATRACT005)
Chris Liebing - Next Try Remix (Chris McCormack remix) (CL-RETRY04)
Alexander Katz - Farbfilm
Leo Laker - Hard (4x4x10)
Geezer - RAW 007
Chris Liebing - Stigmata 05 (STIGMATA05)
Murat - 3rd Floor EP A2 (ER13)
Jens Zy - Radical Fear (GIGA07) [Ltd Edition]
Measure - Kilo (GIGA01) <---omFG!!!!!!
Cold Dust - Vanishing Points (Ade Fenton Rmx) (Red Seal 12)
Leo Laker - Clanking (4x4x10)
Mike Wade - Dirty Planet (Archetype 02)
Chris Liebing - Stigmata 07 B2
Julian Liberator - Clanking (4x4x9)
Julian Liberator - Hard (4x4x9)
Guy McAffer/Hendricksen - RAW 008
Heiko Laux - There is No End (U-Turn 08)
Chris Liebing - Next Try A1 (CLR08)
DJ Rush - Freaks On Hubbard (DJ Rush Remix)
++++++++++
could have made the list.....very long


greetz

The following tracks covers the periode from 93 to 2001 pretty well. Somebody will probably pick at some of them for not being real techno, however definitions change over time, yet these tracks still do it for me - big time!

Adam Beyer - Discipline
Baced - Destiny's Ass
Commander Tom - Are Am Eye?
DJ Lawless - Prophecy of X-Tasy
DJ Misjah & Dj Tim - Access
DJ Running Man - Technogate
Dogma - Dimension (Endymion Remix)
Emmanuel Top - Stress
Frost - Where is my Brain
House Pimps - Work
Johannes Heil - Die Eigene Achse (Heiko Laux Remix)
Kaylab - L�rm Macht Krank (Three O'clock Tool)
Kaylyn - Your Wildest Dreams (CJ Bollands Slick & Bass Remix)
Kenji Ogura feat. Melanie Di Tria - Kreiss�ge
Khardasia - L�rm
Lee Anderson - Fast Food
L-X-Carbo - Dance of the Crazy Pill <-- All time favourite!!
Magnetic - Your Pain
Mario Piu - Technoharmony (Library Mix)
Mario Piu & Mauro Picotto - Imperiale
Mark N-r-g - Don't Stop
Marusha - Go Ahead
Megamind - Taub
Melanie Di Tria - Noise Unit
Negative Return - Hit Hau
Plan-B - Infekt
Ricky Effe - Technotemple
Saccoman - The Recall (Picotto Answer Mix)
Sash! - La Primavera
Sharpshooter - 98 Yards
Si Begg - Welcome to the Discotheque
Space Frog - (X-Ray) Follow Me
Space Frog - The Regulator
Stomper vs. Basscar - Ba-zooka
Tesox - Funky Bassline
The 7th Plane - Satellite (The Techno Side of the Moon)
The 7th Plane - The Train
The Fly - Teckno-Logik
Tom Wilson - Techno Cat
Underworld - Born Slippy (Nuxx Mix)
V.R. Volvox - Tensor
Waldmeister - Kahlschlag (Baced Remix)
Weichei - Korrekt Nach Vorne
Wicked Wipe - Jack The Beat

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Sash! - La Primavera

Eh?

I hope you're talking about some remix of it that I haven't heard trancaholic, otherwise you're just asking for a kick in the teeth.

Anyway, just to put my perspective on things, I've been in and out of techno for about 7 years now (er kinda). When I was about 12/13, every Monday night they used to have this underground techno program on an otherwise bland radio station (102.7 I think for any Melbourne peeps who may remember it - it lasted for a while). I used to tune in almost every week, taping it half the time so I could listen to it on my walkman on the way to school or whatever. I think I was aware of what electronic music was, but this kinda sealed the deal. I first heard "Annihilating Rhythm" - one of the few respectable things that Ultrasonic ever did - on there and rushed out and bought their CD and so on. That was probably one of the points where my love for electronic music started.

Anyway, then I went missing for a while, but then Heard Lost in Love in a record store for the first time and that rekindled my passion for electronica. Remembering my love for techno music specifically (I think I knew that techno was a specific genre :-/ ), I went out and bought a couple of Techno compilation CD's. This is where I learnt about the Liberator boys (amazed at how many tracks they had a hand in), AWeX (went out and bought their album after hearing Wicked Plasticmen) and actually Ferry Corsten as well (Don't Be Afraid was on Strictly Techno 5).

Anyway, this was about the point (14ish) where I started getting into underage clubbing, and stopped listening to "real" music (i.e. eye-ball popping, banging shite) and hopped onto the teeny-bopper bandwagon. All my friends thought I was so cool when I could trainspot the occasional track (like Beachball or Meet Her at the Love Parade and stuff like that) so I started wasting all my time listening to commercial shite - just to be cool.

Anyway, we eventually outgrew uderage events, and I filled this new gap in my life with trance music (this would've been 1998) which was sparked with a trip to the UK in the September of that year. I was amazed that they were playing club music on the MTV over there - club music never got that kinda exposure over here. So yeah. I got exposed to trance over there (where it was obviously huge at the time) and also discovered Binary Finary - 1998, which is, to this day still one of my favourite tracks. I think it was the first time that I'd ever actually fell in love an electronic track, as opposed to just liking the way it sounded.

Anyway, that kicked off about 2 years of fervent trance listening. It was all I ever listened to. If it didn't have "Matt Darey Remix" or "Blank and Jones Remake" at the end of the song title, I didn't touch it. I used to chortle at anyone who listened to house music (how things have changed). I thought trance music was the only form of music I could ever like, and for about 2 years, it was.

But then towards the end of 2000 trance got stale. The true anthems became few and far between - and all the other less brilliant tracks started to sound exactly the same - and I became bored. I had read about Sasha's GU 013, and heard glowing reports from a couple of people I knew, so I decided to buy it - thinking it was going to be a thumping trance album - and was actually quite disappointed at first. Where were the huge trance rifts and massive synths? I've gotta admit, it bored me to death upon first listening. But then I was sitting in the lounge one day - studying for end of year exams I think - and I thought I'd put it on, simply because it was one of the less distracting albums I owned. Anyway, I can't remember exactly what point it was on the CD, but something just clicked - I needed to dance. So there I was, 2pm, some sunny afternoon in about September/October, dancing in front of all my shcool books in the lounge room. And I kept going.

Anyway, that was it for me. I was hooked on progressive from that moment on (even though, in hindsight, that album is probably more trancy than prog). I started downloading stuff by artists like "Cass & Slide" who, even weeks before, I would have dismissed as boring. I don't know what happened in those few weeks, but I discovered a love for a form of music I'd previously disliked - just like something had clicked on in my brain that wasn't there before. I started uploading tons of progressive stuff into lockers (to share with the people of HoM, P4Dj's and, a bit later on, the VIP peeps in this place) and spreading it around like all buggery before most people even knew what this music was (because I'm so cool and ahead of the times like that ).

Anyway, this passion for prog music continued into summer 2001/2002 when I started to get a bit bored of prog too. No particular reason, it just lost its appeal. I needed something harder - that would get me energised - without it being cheesy (no offence to any hard house fans ). Enter Luke Slater.

Bought this album on a whim really - I'd heard good things about him (he's one of Melbourne's consistently favourite international dj's) and heard good things about Fear and Loathing in particular. So I bought it and it was a similar story to the Sasha CD - I put it on the massive stereo I have with me downstairs - and I just had to get up and dance. This crazy, nasty, filtered crap just whipped me right up - I had it pumping in the car for most of the summer (nearly had an accident on NYE driving home from work with it playing - simply because I was paying more attention to the music than the road). I started downloading live sets and bought other recent techno albums like Closer to the Edit by Ritchie Hawtin (which is pure class for different reasons than the Luke Slater CD) and I was loving it. I had come full-circle in a sense - started up loving techno music, and it looked as though it was going to end that way too.

But then, cue several ecstacy fuelled prog house nights (Phil K I could kiss you ), not to mention the Dave Seaman GU 022 set, and I was back on the prog bandwagon in a big way. I forgot all about techno, and invested all my time re-igniting an old flame. I shudder to think how many prog tracks I downloaded in the second half of summer - but I loved every second of it. So is that how it ends then? No, not quite.

Then came Two Tribes in March. I was going there mainly to see all the big prog dj's - Steve Lawler, Danny Howells, Seb Fontaine etc. I went to see Danny Howells at 1am - and he was good but great. Kinda uplifting prog stuff, but I just couldn't get into the groove. Went back at 3am to meet all the others to see Tiesto, but wasn't really in the mood for trance music at that stage, so I dragged my mate off to see Steve Lawler in the other arena. We walked past the Hardware arena, off to the side, where all the techno dj's were playing in a fairly small, long room. I realised that Jeff Mills was playing so I thought it'd be worth popping in - "just to say that I'd seen him". Well, needless to say, I stepped foot in that room and didn't come out.

It was, unequivicolly, the most amazing set I have seen in my life, and I only wish I'd caught the entire three hours. Bear in mind that the guy had already been djing for 90 - 120 minutes by the time I'd gotten there, but the energy - and his technique was simply amazing. He didn't show much emotion - he just let his music do the talking. I'd been used to seeing dj's of "regular" music spin so I wasn't quite prepared for this: he was mixing new records in every 60-90 seconds (he must have used over 100 for the night) and then he'd just let them sit there.... he'd turn his back on the decks, let the records spin, turn around to his record box and shuffle around a bit, and he'd turn back a minute later and the records were still spinning in perfect sync. I was blown away: he'd start scratching one record, then tweak the other for a couple of second with his elbow, then release them and they'd be in perfect synchronisation yet again.

And don't even got me started on the slamming tunes he'd drop one after the other - absolutely relentless energy. I couldn't have stopped dancing even if I'd wanted to.

If nothing else, that night reminded me why I keep on coming back to techno music. As it stands right now, progressive is still my bitch, but one more massive techno set like that and I could be converted quite easily. I also was reminded exactly why I keep on coming back to techno - it has a sincere energy about it: nothing cheesy, nothing pretentious, just beats and loops..... pumping, filtered beats and loops. Quite the genre.

Anyway, I'm sure you get the point. Don't know why I spent the last hour writing all that, but I hope someone reads it. Just trying to get across what techno means to me, and how I keep on returning to it as it keeps on evolving.

The techno is massive.

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Originally posted by Renegade Anyway, I'm sure you get the point. Don't know why I spent the last hour writing all that, but I hope someone reads it. Just trying to get across what techno means to me, and how I keep on returning to it as it keeps on evolving. The techno is massive.

I read it - after all who would miss out on this part of The Renegade Chronicles
Your ability to reflect on own past behaviour is most commendable! I wish that my efforts in this department is equally succesful, although I doubt it

Anyway, I'm really replying to let you know that Sash! was a joke. I was wondering who/if anybody would spot it. Otherwise historians scanning Swampers harddrives in a few hundred years might have difficulties understanding what seperates techno from cheese

I like any hard music, be it hard techno, hard trance or hard house.

However, there's something about techno that doesn't seem that 'hard', the repetitiveness can be a bit too much, like progressive trance, sends you to sleep after a while if the beats aren't thumping. Hard trance is my fav, you don't get many beats that are more banging than Scot Project (if anyone knows any then DO recommend!).

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