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Posted by jdat on Jul-08-2007 22:11:

ICC digital printing profiling

anyone know anything about ICC profiling for digital printing applications( uv flatbed printing, solvent inkjet based, all using CMYK cm and CMYK cmyk ( that's for light CMYK ).

I am hesitating between ICC profiling options but due to the fact they make use of the CIELAB gamut I dunno .... duller colours, lowered wow factor for the end customer etc etc

looked into various 4D type profiling options but it's hard to make out what's real and what's just commercial mumbo gumbo from companies wanting you to spend 5K on a piece of software.


if you have no clue what I'm talking about don't bother


Posted by nchs09 on Jul-08-2007 22:13:

ah yes, the good ol CMYK, i prefer the JLOK myself though.


Posted by jdat on Jul-08-2007 22:15:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
ah yes, the good ol CMYK, i prefer the JLOK myself though.



I am aiming at switching all the production at my company to a SWOP certified environnement

Fogra directives under the cover of ECI partnership seems interesting but too new and not industry widespread enough to justify the cert+workflow mod process


Posted by nchs09 on Jul-08-2007 22:17:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
I am aiming at switching all the production at my company to a SWOP certified environnement

Fogra directives under the cover of ECI partnership seems interesting but too new and not industry widespread enough to justify the cert+workflow mod process
dude wtf i just totally made up whatever i wrote in my first post

i think i fooled you :P


Posted by jdat on Jul-08-2007 22:19:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
dude wtf i just totally made up whatever i wrote in my first post

i think i fooled you :P


I knew you were talking shit


connase


Posted by nchs09 on Jul-08-2007 22:20:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
I knew you were talking shit


connase
touche


Posted by Marc Summers on Jul-08-2007 22:21:

too many acronyms, didn't read


Posted by nchs09 on Jul-08-2007 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
TMA,DR
FIXED!


Posted by jdat on Jul-08-2007 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
too many acronyms, didn't read


International Color Consortium (ICC)
General Requirements for Applications in Commercial Offset Lithography (GRACoL)
SWOP - Specifications Web Offset Publications
[Fogra Graphic Technology Research Association]

I know you care


Posted by gehzumteufel on Jul-08-2007 22:32:

my buddy is in the printing industry ill ask him what they use.

btw what's the advantage of swop over cmyk? cmyk is what my buddy uses. he's in the lfp litho business.


Posted by jdat on Jul-08-2007 22:39:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
my buddy is in the printing industry ill ask him what they use.

btw what's the advantage of swop over cmyk? cmyk is what my buddy uses. he's in the lfp litho business.



cmyk cyan magenta yellow black ... the basic printing colours

swop is just a standardized profile some companies use. If you want to run a swop certified shop you gotta do regular profiling of your machines with your various machines, and printed media.


swop is one among many. each have pros and cons.


I'm sure your friends company adheres to certain profiling specs especially in litho ...

these standards define best process practices as well as profiling and colour gamut rules.

I work in an all digital printing company but no one seems to know how to answer my question as to which standards would be best for use to adhere to.


I think the solvents are getting to me ( funny the two top machines are the biggest machines we run ... and the bottom two are the smallest ... )








I been reading, breathing working sleeping this crap non stop since the end of march ... I need to chill


Posted by gehzumteufel on Jul-08-2007 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
cmyk cyan magenta yellow black ... the basic printing colours

swop is just a standardized profile some companies use. If you want to run a swop certified shop you gotta do regular profiling of your machines with your various machines, and printed media.


swop is one among many. each have pros and cons.


I'm sure your friends company adheres to certain profiling specs especially in litho ...

these standards define best process practices as well as profiling and colour gamut rules.

I work in an all digital printing company but no one seems to know how to answer my question as to which standards would be best for use to adhere to.


I think the solvents are getting to me ( funny the two top machines are the biggest machines we run ... and the bottom two are the smallest ... )








I been reading, breathing working sleeping this crap non stop since the end of march ... I need to chill

I knew what cmyk is. I just now realized after reading your response that I mixed up cmyk with icc.

and my buddy does lots of lfp (large format printing) so they are printing huge things. the company he used to work for does the banners and stuff for apple, blizzard, E3, coke, and lots of other big names.

haha well then sounds like the new job is going well then?


Posted by RJT on Jul-09-2007 01:38:

Whatever you do, stay away from AIDS.


Posted by l�cid on Jul-09-2007 02:47:

am i a total dork for wanting custom plates that say "CMYK"?


Posted by gehzumteufel on Jul-09-2007 03:09:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
am i a total dork for wanting custom plates that say "CMYK"?

your a dork period. get plates that say "I <3 RGB" cause cmyk is gay! lol j/k


Posted by kamil on Jul-09-2007 06:49:

These are my 2 cents.


Posted by jdat on Jul-09-2007 10:43:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
am i a total dork for wanting custom plates that say "CMYK"?



that would be the sexiest thing ever!

I'd do Pdf/x 1a p0wns


Posted by jdat on Jul-09-2007 18:35:

hey peeps

If I told a girl you're the K in my CMY you think she'd be flattered?


don't forget that the K stands for Key and not just Black


Posted by pmoisse on Jul-09-2007 18:45:

I work for a large digital printing company that makes everything from server & proofing stations to large scale solvent and ink digital printers.

Feel free to pm me and I can try and hook you up with some more information. It will only be about our products, but to be honest I've only been working in this industry, and for this company since April.

But hey, if it can help you out, I'm happy to do it.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Jul-09-2007 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
hey peeps

If I told a girl you're the K in my CMY you think she'd be flattered?


don't forget that the K stands for Key and not just Black

LOL


Posted by jdat on Aug-16-2007 21:27:

bored so here's pics from work






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