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Posted by OhioTranceFan on Jul-09-2007 00:51:

ASCAP is flexing their muscle

> Article here <

ASCAP is seeking royalty payments from a coffee shop in FL and a few other stories are told in this article which i stole from fark.

Here's the wiki for ASCAP

With all the recent discussion on the Royalty Board's decision and copyright law in general I thought id open the floor to broad sweeping rants and thought out statements alike.

Posted by bas on Jul-09-2007 00:54:

Wow I got through the first few paragraphs and got far too upset to finish reading. They're seeking royalties from a Mom & Pop Coffee shop for COVER BANDS?!? Cover bands that play for free!?!? What the hell!!

Posted by SMC on Jul-09-2007 01:07:

Fuckin leeches.

Posted by Soonmeister on Jul-09-2007 14:46:

That article made me so fucking angry I carn`t belive they can scum large sums of cash of a coffee shop that doesn`t profit from any of the performances... greedy fucking bastards

Posted by nefardec on Jul-09-2007 14:54:

thank god maybe cover bands will break up and people will make their own music

Posted by Ian on Jul-09-2007 15:10:

edit their wiki to "are a bunch of immoral ****s" ?

Posted by all-nite-freak on Jul-09-2007 15:12:

i will hunt down those Metallica bastids and Axl Rose all over them.

seriously the music industry is just asking for more people to hate it ie:not pay for music this way....idiots

Posted by Ian on Jul-09-2007 15:16:

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Originally posted by all-nite-freak
seriously the music industry is just asking for more people to hate it ie:not pay for music this way....idiots

of course they are. They lose control with digital download sites & labels they can't all own & control in the media like radios, and cds to release like they want to/have done for years

Posted by OhioTranceFan on Jul-10-2007 05:06:

Just a bit of discussion

ASCAP, along with BMI, collect royalties for songwriters and artists. They are not affiliated with the RIAA. This money is FTMP not going to labels and distributors but to composers. These are non-profit organizations set up to ensure that those who create get their piece of the profits. It is the American equivalent of SESAC.

Most people who decry the owners of copyright and enforcers of property rights do so with a byline supporting an artist receiving their share. In this case, that is exactly what is happening; a non-profit retained by an artist is collecting royalties to distribute amongst it's members.

In this case, the coffee shop hosted a "live preformance" of an ASCAP artist's song (a cover). Similar to playing cds over a store stereo, the owner of the shop is required to license the music from ASCAP (The figures provided in the article break down to about 1.10 per day if ASCAP's fee is annual). Here is ASCAP's General FAQ

How do you perceive this action? What is wrong with the scenario and how would you fix it?

Posted by distant on Jul-10-2007 05:51:

It's the wrong way to ensure the composer gets his cut. How the fuck are you supposed to accurately run records on which songs are played where? How is that even a sane thing to do?

Posted by all-nite-freak on Jul-10-2007 14:58:

i thought that buying the record should be enough no? Like ok you can pay for this record but don't play it for anyone or its extra. Awesome.

Posted by RJT on Jul-10-2007 15:03:

The music industry contributing to it's own demise yet again, pure brilliance.

Posted by all-nite-freak on Jul-10-2007 15:08:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
The music industry contributing to it's own demise yet again, pure brilliance.

ya i feel really guilty...i showed my buddy i song last night then promptly sent 25 cents to bad boy bill via express delivery.

Posted by RJT on Jul-10-2007 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak
ya i feel really guilty...i showed my buddy i song last night then promptly sent 25 cents to bad boy bill via express delivery.

Rest assured that 25 cents was immediately used to buy a 25 cent crack rock.

Bill was said to have been a bit disappointed just 4 minutes later.

Posted by all-nite-freak on Jul-10-2007 15:13:

"last night a dj saved my life"?

Posted by meDina on Jul-10-2007 15:19:

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