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Technical computer question re processor speed

Hey I currently have a Pentium 4 2.4 GHZ with 512 MB of RAM, and want a new computer since the newer games are running too slowly to play properly. I have found a shop that is selling an AMD AM2-940 Athlon64 3200+ with 1gb of RAM for $600. I don't know too much about computers so my questions are: Is an AMD 3200+ equivalent to a pentium 4 3200? Would this new computer run a lot faster than my old one? Or perhaps someone knows of a better deal?
Any help would be appreciated

BTW I live in Melbourne

there is no good reason to be buying an AMD currently. intel got the jump on them. go with a core 2 duo

oh, heres a really good site you can buy components (if youre happy to put together a pc, its really not that hard)

link

Also, while considering the processor speed an RAM requirements for your current games dont forget starcraft 2 is out later this year, i'm gonna be buying a new computer a week before it comes out so i can get something top shelf and that runs it wickedly.

definately go dual core.. for not much more you could get a much better system if you built it youself as pck says.

normally i'd say horses for courses, just get something that'll suit what you really need, but these days, there's no sense in not going dual core.

Is there much use going for one of the quad core things?
I need to build a new PC someday in the next few months, it's all very confusing and expensive

3200+ and 1gb ram $600 OH GOD DUDE NO. You sure there isn't a package along with that

Re: Technical computer question re processor speed

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Originally posted by Peter K Hey I currently have a Pentium 4 2.4 GHZ with 512 MB of RAM, and want a new computer since the newer games are running too slowly to play properly. I have found a shop that is selling an AMD AM2-940 Athlon64 3200+ with 1gb of RAM for $600. I don't know too much about computers so my questions are: Is an AMD 3200+ equivalent to a pentium 4 3200? Would this new computer run a lot faster than my old one? Or perhaps someone knows of a better deal? Any help would be appreciated BTW I live in Melbourne

for a start, sounds like a rip off? what else is with it? ie video card etc?? should be able to do a core2duo machine with decent gfx card, 2gb ram etc starting from 800-900

dunno if it still holds but when i done my pc back in feb, basically if you're gonna overclock you go intel core2duo, otherwise you go AMD x2. (Especially the latter if you're gonna be using 64bit, but overclocking makes this statement void).

Also to answer your question, the amd 3200+ is not equivalent to the p4 3.2, it IS better, but you can get a machine that's still shit loads better than the 3200+ on a budget. a 3200+ cpu is worth what, $50 these days? O_o if you go amd, get an x2!

also, 1gb in a new pc is just wrong. go atleast 2.
add a few more 100 to your budget if you can, and you can get a kick ass machine

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Originally posted by Lilith Is there much use going for one of the quad core things? I need to build a new PC someday in the next few months, it's all very confusing and expensive

what are you using it for that's so cpu intensive and will be using 4 cpu's? also their prices are MUCH higher. just go dual core, much better value for money, atleast for now, and the near future.

i've overclocked my dualcore 80%, it's as faster if not faster than the entry level quad core muahaha. and yet, a fraction of the price!

Was thinking about getting back into computer games again for some amusement but mostly it would get used for mixing, word processing and the occasional playing around with graphics. Put it this way, my current one is about 5 years old so I'm not playing anything current and a quad core would at least have some shelf life as a long term machine I thought for things in the future.
Oh, do they work with XP? Because I'm not using that damn Vista thing!

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Originally posted by Lilith Was thinking about getting back into computer games again for some amusement but mostly it would get used for mixing, word processing and the occasional playing around with graphics. Put it this way, my current one is about 5 years old so I'm not playing anything current and a quad core would at least have some shelf life as a long term machine I thought for things in the future. Oh, do they work with XP? Because I'm not using that damn Vista thing!

Yes to XP, and nothing you've said says get a quad core, it all says go bang for buck. What machine have you got atm ? Your new machine will probably be ~15x faster, or more!

i got my 3200+ back in 2004.

its still an "ok" processor, but i wouldnt buy one now. im going to get a new vid card and try and get another year out of my mobo/cpu before i do a good upgrade.

my 9800pro is what is letting me down game wise.

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Originally posted by sunrise3500 What machine have you got atm ?

It's a P4 2.4gigathings with about 1gig of ram and some kind of video card Radeon something, 80gig SATA hard drive... hell it's been years since I bothered to be interested in it
It was a good machine when I made it, thinking the same principle if I buy high end now, it'll still be a useful machine 4-5years from now as I have no intention of really upgrading along the way and I don't know or care to overclock anything either.

I saw some video cards with liquid cooling on them the other day...

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Originally posted by Lilith It's a P4 2.4gigathings with about 1gig of ram and some kind of video card Radeon something, 80gig SATA hard drive...

ah so it's prolly 4 years old at it's oldest then
prolly 6-10x faster than, or more depending on what you get really. but yeah

would anyone like to cuddle my
C2D 6400 @ 3.2 Ghz
2 gig 800Mhz G Skill ram
P965-DS3
8800 GTS 640Mb

coz fuck she purrs

is that dual core pkc?

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Originally posted by Aesthetic is that dual core pkc?

yeah mate. intel core 2 duo 6400. stock @ 2.13 ghz, but mine runs at 3.2 coz she loves me

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN would anyone like to cuddle my C2D 6400 @ 3.2 Ghz

no they'd rather cuddle my e4300 at 3.24 :P
(that's from a stock speed of 1.8!)

yeah, but wheres you 8800?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yeah, but wheres you 8800?

x1950 pro
value for money^2
unlike your ripoff 8800 :P

awwww, how cute. a 1950 pro. i bet wolfenstein 3D looks awesome!



i dont think that's a ripoff at all and thats only the 320Mb version.

is overclocking safe? ive read alot of reports saying that it shortens the life of a cpu

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yeah mate. intel core 2 duo 6400. stock @ 2.13 ghz, but mine runs at 3.2 coz she loves me

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Originally posted by Aesthetic is overclocking safe? ive read alot of reports saying that it shortens the life of a cpu

it all depends on the hardware, but if you increase the speed of your CPU WITHOUT increasing voltages, then its perfectly safe, and makes no difference to the life of your CPU. mine is overclocked without touching the voltage. took 30 seconds to do, and have had zero problems.

expect a phone call in a few months.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN it all depends on the hardware, but if you increase the speed of your CPU WITHOUT increasing voltages, then its perfectly safe, and makes no difference to the life of your CPU. mine is overclocked without touching the voltage. took 30 seconds to do, and have had zero problems.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN it all depends on the hardware, but if you increase the speed of your CPU WITHOUT increasing voltages, then its perfectly safe, and makes no difference to the life of your CPU. mine is overclocked without touching the voltage. took 30 seconds to do, and have had zero problems.

yeah voltages are the real killer.
also need adequate cooling, too hot cpu will shorten its life too. but if you keep the voltages stock or dont overvolt too much, that's a big help for a start

most motherboards seem to undervolt anyways, especially under load. so you do have some room to play with

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Originally posted by Aesthetic expect a phone call in a few months.

haha, no worries man!!

if youre buying a new PC and thinking of overclocking, the important bits are your RAM speed, your motherboard frontside bus speed (and clock multiplier), and how far your CPU can be pushed.

example
my setup:

my mboard has an FSB of 800mhz (400 x2)
my RAM runs at 800Mhz (you want ram that can accomodate your FSB)
the clock multiplier multiplies the 400 FSB.
my clock multiplier is 8 (normally you can set this from 6-8)

therefore 400 x 8 = 3200 = 3.2 Ghz



almost all good mboards these days have very easy overclocking options. but feel free to hit me up with more questions anytime

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