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Posted by Beatflux on Jul-12-2007 08:22:

Question DJ's and Dancing

Do you have to know how to dance if you want to be a good DJ?

What are your thoughts?


Posted by Spoonz on Jul-12-2007 08:28:

no... u're a DJ not a Dancer, while both are branches of Performing Arts, they are both totally different. Of course, if u wanted to incorporate them both into ur performance then that is ur choice.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Jul-12-2007 08:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Spoonz
no... u're a DJ not a Dancer, while both are branches of Performing Arts, they are both totally different. Of course, if u wanted to incorporate them both into ur performance then that is ur choice.

Not gonna act like I have experience here but that sounds about right. Dancing is about bodily movement... DJing is about picking moods(in the songs) that go well together and making them sound better through beatmatching and effects.

Don't really see much overlap between the two.

That's like saying should I be a good rapper to be able to read people?


Posted by Freak on Jul-12-2007 08:37:

noooo

you dj because you cant dance. Means you can go to a club and not look a twat


Posted by Stu Cox on Jul-12-2007 08:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
noooo

you dj because you cant dance. Means you can go to a club and not look a twat


Exactly. This is why we take up DJing.

Although you'll realise on most nights out, more and more people should be taking up DJing, particularly as the night progresses.


Posted by Beatflux on Jul-12-2007 08:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Spoonz
no... u're a DJ not a Dancer, while both are branches of Performing Arts, they are both totally different. Of course, if u wanted to incorporate them both into ur performance then that is ur choice.


I mean just dance, in any way you want. You don't have to spin on your toes or anything. You know, shakin' your groove thang.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-12-2007 09:36:

This has to be the most random question I've ever seen


Posted by FuzzyChicken on Jul-12-2007 09:39:

Dancing != DJing

/thread


Posted by Darkarbiter on Jul-12-2007 09:48:

Most DJs I've seen only dance with their hands. I'd suggest doing that.


Posted by Shini on Jul-12-2007 10:04:

If your feeling 'it' when spinning then move to the music, don't just stand there like a zombie but other than shaking your hands and tapping your feet there isn't all the much you should have time for if your paying enough attention to your decks and what the people on the floor are responding to.

If you mean when your not spinning then it doesn't really matter, do you need to be a world champ race car driver to be a world class mechanic? As a DJ though, you really should be going to clubs every once in awhile to see whats happening in the local scene so you can't help but pick up a little here and there...you tend to find a sense of rhythm useful when DJing and that will help your dancing too.

Dancing and Djing are different things, you might be able to rip it up on the floor or not, you might be able to make others rip it up when your in the booth or maybe not, if your lucky you can do both, if unlucky neither but either way who cares, just have fun.

worth pointing out I think here is that there aren't really any pre-requisites to being a DJ other then a love for the music and the determination to keep at it until your good.


Posted by Freak on Jul-12-2007 10:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Shini


worth pointing out I think here is that there aren't really any pre-requisites to being a DJ other then a love for the music and the determination to keep at it until your good.



A coke habit and an addiction to easy women helps, but these things can be developed over time.


Posted by Shini on Jul-12-2007 10:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
A coke habit and an addiction to easy women helps, but these things can be developed over time.


+1

Good call!


Posted by Dojomaster26 on Jul-12-2007 11:51:

You don't need to know how to physically dance, but you should know what makes you want to dance. When you're at an event as a spectator, what makes you start moving your body? What makes you walk back to the bar? What makes you nod your head or tap your feet to the beat? A good DJ doesn't need to know how to dance him/herself, but will know what makes people dance.


Posted by nefardec on Jul-12-2007 14:00:

I definitely think someone who is a good dancer will make a better deejay than someone who is not with the same level of practice and experience.


I know am a little esoteric here, but I believe there is more or less a secret sensual knowledge of the body/mind/soul that is gleaned through dance. I don't mean bobbing around recklessly, I mean dance as a measured expression and sensual, rhythmic transformation of the body.

Someone who holds this almost spiritual knowledge of his position and velocity in space, the sensual, conscious instantaneous experiential knowledge of his inner and outer worlds holds a very special innate knowledge and understanding of music as well, and I feel this allows one to drop it proper


i highly recommend to anyone who does not know how to dance to take some classes.


Posted by Cro_Addict on Jul-12-2007 14:29:

NO you don't need to dance.

There is only 1 thing you have to do.

JESUS POSE!
If you don't know how...learn from the best - ARMIN and OAKEY




Posted by Fl@k Monkey on Jul-12-2007 14:34:

Ahh the good old Jesus pose

I think it was Blank & Jones? Also did the 'Jesus Pose' in the mix at some performance.

Anyways, No.. It's definately not required to be able to dance to be a DJ. Quite the opposite infact.. BUT you know your doing a good mix if even your getting into it


Posted by nefardec on Jul-12-2007 14:36:

oakey's just feeling it in that picture

but damn, that armin picture is just simply ridiculous there's not even a crowd, and he's not even looking up. It is nothing BUT a crossless christ imitation.


just bizarre

i wonder if these guys actually think they are saviors of some kind after all the unmitigated praise they get


Posted by Stu Cox on Jul-12-2007 14:44:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
oakey's just feeling it in that picture

but damn, that armin picture is just simply ridiculous there's not even a crowd, and he's not even looking up. It is nothing BUT a crossless christ imitation.


just bizarre

i wonder if these guys actually think they are saviors of some kind after all the unmitigated praise they get

If you're gonna do it, do it properly... there was a flyer for a Renaissance night back in 2001-ish with Alex P dressed up as Jesus on a cross. If only I could find a picture...


Posted by Cro_Addict on Jul-12-2007 14:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
If you're gonna do it, do it properly... there was a flyer for a Renaissance night back in 2001-ish with Alex P dressed up as Jesus on a cross. If only I could find a picture...


How about Frankie Wild

LOL




Posted by DiscoStew on Jul-12-2007 15:00:

I think you can be a good DJ without dancing, but if you can dance, you can relate to the crowd better. Dancing around a little while mixing can help you maintain the beat better (at least it does for me) and if you find yourself getting tired, it's probably time to bring give the crowd a bit of a break too.

...Just refrain from the Jesus pose.


Posted by DiscoStew on Jul-12-2007 15:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Cro_Addict
NO you don't need to dance.

There is only 1 thing you have to do.

JESUS POSE!
If you don't know how...learn from the best - ARMIN and OAKEY





One more tool with the Jesus pose:



I'm f*ing flying!


Posted by Stu Cox on Jul-12-2007 15:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Cro_Addict

On a side note, is that Oakey pic taken at the same event as the infamous "left handed turntables" shot? Looks like a similar size of event, setup looks similar... except the decks ahem!


(for anyone who doesn't know that story, about 10 years ago a photo of Paul Oakenfold DJing somewhere-or-other was published in one of the major UK clubbing magazines whereby the negative had been printed in reverse... the magazine received a shower of letters and emails asking if Oakey had his own custom-built left handed turntables)


Posted by kadomony on Jul-13-2007 02:01:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
I definitely think someone who is a good dancer will make a better deejay than someone who is not with the same level of practice and experience.


I know am a little esoteric here, but I believe there is more or less a secret sensual knowledge of the body/mind/soul that is gleaned through dance. I don't mean bobbing around recklessly, I mean dance as a measured expression and sensual, rhythmic transformation of the body.

Someone who holds this almost spiritual knowledge of his position and velocity in space, the sensual, conscious instantaneous experiential knowledge of his inner and outer worlds holds a very special innate knowledge and understanding of music as well, and I feel this allows one to drop it proper


i highly recommend to anyone who does not know how to dance to take some classes.



tooootally agree with u man.

even though i dont have formal dance training, i LOVE to move my body and have developed my skills through practice and using bits and pieces from watching other people.

that being said, there's only a certain amount of moving you can do behind the decks without knocking into something...


Posted by DOOMBOT on Jul-13-2007 02:03:

quote:
Originally posted by kadomony
tooootally agree with u man.

even though i dont have formal dance training, i LOVE to move my body and have developed my skills through practice and using bits and pieces from watching other people.

that being said, there's only a certain amount of moving you can do behind the decks without knocking into something...

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you should take kung fu.


Posted by sdevega on Jul-13-2007 06:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
noooo

you dj because you cant dance. Means you can go to a club and not look a twat





this made me laugh


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