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Posted by phizzle on Jul-13-2007 13:46:

Upgrading... debating between cdj-800mk2 and cdj-1000mk3

I have finally started getting some gigs and need to upgrade, I feel a bit cheesy going out with my CDJ-200's, my mixer is alright, but I can worry about that later.. its a DJM-400.. an 800 will be its upgrade.

The only thing making this decision hard is the initial money.. Are the CDJ-1000mk3's worth 400 more than the 800mk2's? I've read many many comments and debates over these two decks so right now im a bit torn. I love the MP3 support on the 1000's and the display and wave form display is uber! I also love the temp reset function on the 1000's which allows you to set the slider to 0 wherever its at which is nice so you dont have to go to 10% ect.. I love everything about the 1000's although i havent used 800 or 1000 before.

I know it sounds as if my mind is made up already, but is there anyone out there thats used both that could throw a comment out there? I would be very interested in hearing what you say about the two..


Posted by Neo Hacker on Jul-13-2007 14:59:

1000s have 0.02 pitch while 800s have 0.05

1000s have waveform display

and that are the big highlights I could tell. Not worth the 1000s for a home setup I would say, but if you got the money to spare, go for it.


Posted by phizzle on Jul-13-2007 16:13:

The CDJ-200's have .02 resolution on the pitch also correct? Thats what im using now...


Posted by Neo Hacker on Jul-13-2007 16:17:

quote:
Originally posted by phizzle
The CDJ-200's have .02 resolution on the pitch also correct? Thats what im using now...


yup. Only 800MK2 has 0.05...don't know why really


Posted by Import on Jul-13-2007 16:18:

quote:
Originally posted by phizzle
The CDJ-200's have .02 resolution on the pitch also correct? Thats what im using now...


Yes, so if your determined not to use .05 then your gonna want 1000's.

edit: or neo could sneak in while im typing and say the same thing


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Jul-13-2007 16:43:

800's have a beatcutter

800's have the quick return function

.02 vs .05 is such a joke of an argument im not even going to comment as ive made my opinions clear previously.

the jog dial on the 800mk2 is modelled almost entirely off the feel and tension on the 1000mk2.

while the 800mk2 has built in memory for cue points, the 1000 gives the option of using a memory card and also has the hot cues.

just depends what your looking, since the quick return is geared more towards sampling on the 800mk2 and the hot cues on the 1000 are better for on the fly remixing.

I can assure you either way you will be extremely happy but my personal opinion is that the 1000's arent worth the extra money if money is a factor. Good luck!


Posted by Ryan0751 on Jul-13-2007 16:48:

For the $800 you'll save on CDJ-800's, you could upgrade something else in your system.

Or buy something like Torq, then your 800's combined with the software will give you everything you like that the 1000's offer, plus more.

And yes, .05% vs .02% is moot.


Posted by Yohan on Jul-13-2007 17:31:

This topic really should be a sticky


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Jul-13-2007 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
For the $800 you'll save on CDJ-800's, you could upgrade something else in your system.

Or buy something like Torq, then your 800's combined with the software will give you everything you like that the 1000's offer, plus more.

And yes, .05% vs .02% is moot.


well put. i just got torq and it essentially adds so much to the already quality features that are on my 800mk2's. waveform, hot cues, loading vst synths, no more burning cds, quick sampling, etc.


Posted by Spoonz on Jul-13-2007 18:09:

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
.02 vs .05 is such a joke of an argument im not even going to comment as ive made my opinions clear previously.


indeed... i have been mixing fine with 0.05 pitch settings on my decks until i recently read the manual and figurered out how to change it to smaller increments but really doesnt make a big deal of difference at all lol


Posted by maddraver on Jul-13-2007 18:44:

buy one of each.


Posted by Ryan0751 on Jul-13-2007 18:46:

That's so not feng shui.

quote:
Originally posted by maddraver
buy one of each.


Posted by phizzle on Jul-13-2007 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
That's so not feng shui.


LoL

Well, I guess the 1000's arnt worth the extra money seein as how they do about the same thing.. Like someone else said, use the 800 to upgrade something else... I can sell my DJM-400 and buy an 800 :P


Posted by Jarvmeister on Jul-13-2007 20:02:

Fuck me, this is such a frequently discussed topic I sometimes wonder if Pioneer decided to specify the 800 and 100s price and features just so that everyone would discuss it. Smart marketing ploy.

Fact: there's not one 800 owner that wouldn't prefer to have the 1000 if money were no object.

If you're asking which you should get I'm assuming you can afford the 1000. If thats the case then get it. You'll be happier in the long run. I couldn't live without the waveform display - amongst other things. I love this machine.

Jarv


Posted by miamitranceman on Jul-13-2007 21:17:

An interesting side note, almost every club I've been to or spun at with 1000s, they're almost always set to .05 and not .02. Maybe it's just a fluke but I'm always noticing this.


Posted by Yohan on Jul-13-2007 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
An interesting side note, almost every club I've been to or spun at with 1000s, they're almost always set to .05 and not .02. Maybe it's just a fluke but I'm always noticing this.

because by default, it's set to .05 and most people spin on that setting anyways


Posted by skip on Jul-13-2007 21:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Neo Hacker
yup. Only 800MK2 has 0.05...don't know why really



to sell more 1000s. that's the only reason


Posted by miamitranceman on Jul-13-2007 21:25:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
because by default, it's set to .05 and most people spin on that setting anyways


Haha, pwned.


Posted by nchs09 on Jul-13-2007 21:50:

i have both and they are not


id buy 2 800's if i could do it again.


Posted by mellyG on Jul-13-2007 22:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister

Fact: there's not one 800 owner that wouldn't prefer to have the 1000 if money were no object.


Jarv


true, as I own a pair of lovely 800mk2's aswell. i'd like to point out though that your statement is like asing if you would rather a macbook or macbook pro. same thing just one with more features for a steeper price. ofcourse if money were no matter you'd go with the one with more features, but I'd reckon the 800mk2's are a better value for the price. i've also played on 1000's that were left on the .05 setting an no one really seems to care lol.


Posted by hooj1 on Jul-13-2007 23:16:

personally i'd stick to the 1000 mk2 not the mk3. the new ones have had some issues. the 800's are good too but i don't like the .05 resolution.


Posted by phizzle on Jul-14-2007 00:24:

I appreciate all the response.. I know this is a much talked about issue but its really hard to make a decision.. to the person that made the mac book comment, i got the pro lol...

Well, I'm going out tonight to talk to a couple of people about playing at their bars, if I land these, I'll be stoked!


Posted by progress on Jul-14-2007 00:39:

If you are making money off your gigs, I would buy the 1000's and chalk it up as a business expense. You will be much happier in the long run. The added features do make them nicer than the 800's.....


Posted by Sukhoi29SU on Jul-14-2007 01:13:

quote:
Originally posted by hooj1
personally i'd stick to the 1000 mk2 not the mk3. the new ones have had some issues. the 800's are good too but i don't like the .05 resolution.


what issues? Haven't had any problems with my MK3's so far- although they haven't been heavily used to date.


Posted by hooj1 on Jul-14-2007 02:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Sukhoi29SU
what issues? Haven't had any problems with my MK3's so far- although they haven't been heavily used to date.


they've had some major firmware issues. i really don't like the idea of having to update via software for these decks. they should be perfect the day you open the box imo.


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