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Pure Trance

im new to trance as to many of you who were listenin in in its infant years. So I really dont know what "pure trance" is

on the J00F thread people were saying its alot different from nowadays poppish mainstream trance. not a big roller coaster ride like nowadays songs with buildup after buildup and breakdowns after breakdowns.
the structure being different and just melody ontop of melody

can anyone give me some direction to some pure trance songs (new and old pls)
without any incluences from electro, house, etc

just barebone trance

(some new pure trance would be good too thx)

X-Dream - The 5th Dimension
Deepsky - Stargazer (X-Cabs Mix)

Pure trance to me is pvd's out there and back times and a little before and after.


AvB- Blue Fear
PvD- Avenue
PvD- A Magical Momment
Giuseppe Ottavani- Linking People
Fred Baker pres. Iguana- Beautiful Sunshine
Jose Amnesia vs Fedo- I Need You
Jose Amnesia vs Serp- Second Day
Phynn- Lucid
Perasma- Swing 2 Harmony
Whiteroom- Someday (instrumental mix)
Solar Stone- Seven Cities
Steven Birch- Baleric Bay
System F- Out of The Blue
Three Drives- Greece 2000
Octagen vs M.I.D.O.R- Flyback
Nu NRG- Butterfly
Marc Van Linden- Forbidden Love
Krzysztof Chochlow- Reserve Midnight
J00F- I'm Not Fooled
Gouryella- Tenshi..


^defines real trance for me.

your list is all modern trance man. i think he's referring to some of the late 80's-1993 stuff.

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Originally posted by wotyzoid Pure trance to me is pvd's out there and back times and a little before and after. AvB- Blue Fear PvD- Avenue PvD- A Magical Momment Giuseppe Ottavani- Linking People Fred Baker pres. Iguana- Beautiful Sunshine Jose Amnesia vs Fedo- I Need You Jose Amnesia vs Serp- Second Day Phynn- Lucid Perasma- Swing 2 Harmony Whiteroom- Someday (instrumental mix) Solar Stone- Seven Cities Steven Birch- Baleric Bay System F- Out of The Blue Three Drives- Greece 2000 Octagen vs M.I.D.O.R- Flyback Nu NRG- Butterfly Marc Van Linden- Forbidden Love Krzysztof Chochlow- Reserve Midnight J00F- I'm Not Fooled Gouryella- Tenshi.. ^defines real trance for me.

Yeah, that list is very misleading. Just a lot of typical melodic trance.

sorry I thought he meant , real, like real, you know? sorry disregard my list.

edit: I just read the intro post, he sais new and old. regard my list.

im just talking about what people call real trance

like what J00F said in his post... about the "real trance"

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Originally posted by theognis1002 im just talking about what people call real trance like what J00F said in his post... about the "real trance"

Maybe you should ask John00Fleming himself about what he define as real trance! He is only expressing his point of view, some people agree and some don't. There is trancy music outside the trancegenre aswell, don't forget that


In my oppnion when i think "real trance" i think stuff like THIS!
This is stuff from the very early 90s, you hear by the patterns and structure it's very trancey in the feeling.
This is an element wich some people feel is lost with todays trance music. If refering to the J00F-post i think he means that these elements (the hypnotic energy feeling) can still be found in the psy trance and amongst close related subgenres.
I recently discovered this track on beatport
Nuclear Ramjet - Minas Tirith 425 (Lone Rider Remix)
Be sure to check it out, i find it quality

They were probably thinking about classic trance, because it's the purest form of trance out there. Repetitive, ethereal and hypnotic music without supersaws, big buildups and dramatic breakdowns. So if you want something like that check out stuff from Eye Q (Brainchild, Sven Vath, Earth Nation), MFS (Cosmic Baby, Effective Force), Superstition (L.S.G., Microglobe, Marmion), Le Petit Prince (Caucasuss, Nikolai, Microwave Prince), Psy Harmonics (Third Eye, Mystic Force) and some Harthouse stuff.

There's no such thing as pure trance.

Not one song or one style can define the whole genre, since trance borrows and complements other genres. You can't have trance that hasn't ever before received contribution from other areas of electronic dance music.

John 00 Flemming was just arguing that 95% of trance is poor quality, in my interpretation.

I posted this in a similar thread. I can't really be bothered to upload any samples right now so that's the best I can do thanks to my good friend youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0KZzdQXKNQ

Humate - Love Stimulation (Paul van Dyk's Love Mix)

and this mix/set:
Jason Porter - Trellis (1994)
Right Click & Save As

Just awesome

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Originally posted by SMC Deepsky - Stargazer (X-Cabs Mix)

yes.. YES!!!! yeeees!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Cetra� There's no such thing as pure trance.

yes there is

LSG - Netherworld (that melody is timeless still sounds fresh)

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Originally posted by Breeze LSG - Netherworld (that melody is timeless still sounds fresh)

That's a great track, but iskur hit the nail. Real trance doesn't need melodies.

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Originally posted by Cetra� There's no such thing as pure trance. Not one song or one style can define the whole genre, since trance borrows and complements other genres. You can't have trance that hasn't ever before received contribution from other areas of electronic dance music.

Odyssee of Noises - Firedance (Sunrise Mix)

QED, you are incorrect.

Other trance tracks I've come across that are, in my opinion, representations of pure trance:

Art of Trance - Madagascar (Original Mix)
Atmos - Klein Aber Doctor
BT - Giving Up the Ghost
BT - Namistai
Cosmic Baby - Spacetrack
Cybernetika - No Communication
Der Dritte Raum - Lava
Der Dritte Raum - Polarstern
Hardfloor - Acperience 1
LSG - Fragile
Man With No Name - Teleport
Marmion - Schöneberg
PPK - Resurrection
Underworld - Dark and Long (Dark Train Mix)
Union Jack - Cockroach
Union Jack - Two Full Moons and a Trout

You say it has a different structure..that is not true from what I've found. Sure the build ups and breakdowns aren't as grandiose, but it's misleading to think that there weren't build ups and breakdowns in the early trance stuff. Sure not every single track had one, but many of the tracks just build, build and continued to build, but others broke down, shifted..adding new layers or sounds or melodies. Listen to "The Space Track" by Cosmic Baby, and some of his other stuff. "Age Of Love" also has a mild breakdown (40 seconds). But the key thing is that they breakdowns didn't take over the whole track...they weren't the focus as they have been with "modern" trance or epic trance.

So to say that the structure of each was totally different is not true. The sound itself was slightly different, but you can still hear some influences with the use of repeated melodic fragments and the shifting melody and the build ups. "The Space Track" sounds similar to (though not identical) to Paul van Dyk, some Armin van Buuren and Ferry Corsten, and even some releases on Anjunabeats...in it's use of melody, a breakdown and the beat and bassline itself is similar (though a little slower than the more modern stuff).





To me..these two tracks define early "pure" trance but aren't devoid of influences on a good number (though not all) "modern" trance..you still get the build up, you still get the breakdown (though they were only like 40 seconds, now they are more like a minute and a half to three), you still get the symphonic or angelic voices and the loops, melodic fragments and similar bassline and beat. Like I said is had slightly slower and the melody isn't quite as overt, though it is a little more apparent on "The Space Track", which to me is an example of early melodic progressive trance. I guess the biggest difference was also they were just more "hypnotic" sounding, not as grandiose and less commercial/pop-orientated. They weren't what you hear on ASOT, though that's not to say that there isn't stuff on there or even around nowadays that doesn't capture the same feeling, it's just harder to come by.

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Originally posted by Ishkur yes there is

Saaaay... did you make this?

PURE GOLD:

Aquanuts - Deep Sea (Martin Eyerer Remix)

Marc Aurel - Running (Dumonde Remix)

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Originally posted by Cobalt Saaaay... did you make this?

it's a track by Planet Ben. Forgot the name though.

says "Free" on the id3 tag

Joof in his june GTG episode spinned Way out west - Domination (Mururoa rmx) and said that this was one of the best tracks of the period when trance was still trance (or something like that).

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Originally posted by Trancefxs Joof in his june GTG episode spinned Way out west - Domination (Mururoa rmx) and said that this was one of the best tracks of the period when trance was still trance (or something like that).

that track is a belter. IMO one of Way Out Wests finest tunes.

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