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Posted by Skipper on Jul-18-2007 00:28:

Geeks: Mac Book noob question(s)

I just bought a mac book and am trying to wrap my head around simple things. I've been told that when you can't figure out something, it's because you're used to doing it the difficult windows way.

Some questions:

- why won't safari take up the whole screen when I maximize it using the button at the top left of the screen?
- is it possible to create a shortcut that deletes entire words at a time instead of individual letters/characters?
- how can I import the organization that I have on my other installations of MSN messenger, or is that not possible?
- What is the best way to connect this laptop to my other laptop to transfer files? I have an 80gb ipod, would that work (well)?

I'm sure I will have more questions but some help with the above would be a good starting point and very much appreciated!


S


Posted by exstasie on Jul-18-2007 00:34:

Re: Geeks: Mac Book noob question(s)

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I just bought a mac book and am trying to wrap my head around simple things. I've been told that when you can't figure out something, it's because you're used to doing it the difficult windows way.

Some questions:

- why won't safari take up the whole screen when I maximize it using the button at the top left of the screen?
- is it possible to create a shortcut that deletes entire words at a time instead of individual letters/characters?
- how can I import the organization that I have on my other installations of MSN messenger, or is that not possible?
- What is the best way to connect this laptop to my other laptop to transfer files? I have an 80gb ipod, would that work (well)?

I'm sure I will have more questions but some help with the above would be a good starting point and very much appreciated!


S


I've had a mackbook for about 6 months now...and can't really answer those questions for you haha...

1. Dunno how to do that, its the same w/ firefox, i can't automatically maximize it, I have to do it manually

2. No idea, i just highlight stuff and delete...or select things using function

3. Is there an option to export/import contact lists which should import the organization

4. That is one way i guess, external HDD? USB? If you have bluetooth on your other computer you can transfer via Bluetooth


Posted by Chris Allen on Jul-18-2007 01:01:

Re: Geeks: Mac Book noob question(s)

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
- why won't safari take up the whole screen when I maximize it using the button at the top left of the screen?


It should, you just have to figure out what button it is since they're backwards to how a windows machine works. Part of the mac interface though is not to use full-size windows since you have expose. It's just something you need to get used to but I find it much more useful in the long-run.

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
- is it possible to create a shortcut that deletes entire words at a time instead of individual letters/characters?


Click 3x over a word and it'll select the entire word for you.

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
- how can I import the organization that I have on my other installations of MSN messenger, or is that not possible?


This I'm not sure about as I don't actually have a mac in front of me and I know that mac MSN is shit. I'd recommend using Adium for your messenger needs

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
- What is the best way to connect this laptop to my other laptop to transfer files? I have an 80gb ipod, would that work (well)?


I would recommend using the iPod or an external hard drive if you're not used to any networking to send files that way. If you think you can, just network the two computers together via your router and share the files that way (you can find instructions online to do this, it's not too difficult).

Hope that helps.


Posted by DigiNut on Jul-18-2007 01:10:

Re: Re: Geeks: Mac Book noob question(s)

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Allen
It's just something you need to get used to

Hahah.

Sarah, Sarah, get with the program! This isn't Windows here, where all of the UI problems are Microsoft's fault. If something is hard to do on a Mac, it just means you're not supposed to be doing it! Who selects text with a keyboard anyway?

(Actually, for that one item I believe there is a shortcut. On Windows its Ctrl+Shift+Arrow to select a word, I think on the Mac it's Option+Shift+Arrow. For the others - good luck!)


Posted by malek on Jul-18-2007 02:14:

Re: Geeks: Mac Book noob question(s)

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
- why won't safari take up the whole screen when I maximize it using the button at the top left of the screen?


I had a macbook for three weeks, and that was the most annoying thing ever!!!!! you just can't take the whole screen without draggin it yourself!

and no delete key, just a backspace!!

some many quirks and irks that made me return the whole thing.

and don't get me started about the whole "mac is more stable" ... just a myth.


Posted by SuperJimbo on Jul-18-2007 02:50:

Re: Geeks: Mac Book noob question(s)

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper


One piece of advice I have is make sure you buy a wireless Mighty Mouse (or some other mac compatible mouse). You will be able to "right click" just as if you were using a PC. Without the mouse, you need to hold down the CTRL key every time you want right click functionality.

Microsoft Messenger:Mac BLOWS. Nowhere near as good as the PC version.


Posted by exstasie on Jul-18-2007 02:53:

Re: Re: Geeks: Mac Book noob question(s)

quote:
Originally posted by SuperJimbo
One piece of advice I have is make sure you buy a wireless Mighty Mouse (or some other mac compatible mouse). You will be able to "right click" just as if you were using a PC. Without the mouse, you need to hold down the CTRL key every time you want right click functionality.

Microsoft Messenger:Mac BLOWS. Nowhere near as good as the PC version.


no you don't..i have mine set, where if i have two fingers, touching the pad and click..itll be the right click.

1 Finger + click = Left click
2 Figers + click = Right click

Same for scrolling,

1 Finger = Move Mouse
2 Fingers = Scroll


Posted by SuperJimbo on Jul-18-2007 02:57:

Re: Re: Re: Geeks: Mac Book noob question(s)

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
no you don't..i have mine set, where if i have two fingers, touching the pad and click..itll be the right click.

1 Finger + click = Left click
2 Figers + click = Right click

Same for scrolling,

1 Finger = Move Mouse
2 Fingers = Scroll


Nice. Thanks! The mouse still rules tho. Can't imagine computer life without it.


Posted by MarkT on Jul-18-2007 03:37:

Re: Geeks: Mac Book noob question(s)

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
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you could message Alex...he's a super duper mega Apple nerd

I'm picking up a Macbook Pro soon...he will be my free, live Apple tutor (though he doesn't know it yet) :P


Posted by geroin on Jul-18-2007 03:56:

mac blows period, overrated

i've used it for 3months and its so fucking frustrating to get shit to work that takes 2 seconds to do in windows. Also its not stable at all, the computers we've had in Mac Labs would fucking freeze everytime i used it, i call it the spinning circle of death that never stops spinning, no you can't ctr alt del, you have to restart losing all your work.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Jul-18-2007 03:56:

*paging Mikey to defend his Mac*


Posted by Chris Allen on Jul-18-2007 03:59:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
mac blows period, overrated

i've used it for 3months and its so fucking frustrating to get shit to work that takes 2 seconds to do in windows. Also its not stable at all, the computers we've had in Mac Labs would fucking freeze everytime i used it, i call it the spinning circle of death that never stops spinning, no you can't ctr alt del, you have to restart losing all your work.


Ever heard of Force Quit?

Honestly the problems I have with a PC are completely avoided when using a Mac. As for productivity and integration with audio production + graphic design, there is nothing like using a Mac.

I'm not even a Mac fan-boy as I still work for Microsoft, but I do prefer the usability features in a Mac to a PC, hands down.


Posted by geroin on Jul-18-2007 04:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Allen
Ever heard of Force Quit?

Honestly the problems I have with a PC are completely avoided when using a Mac. As for productivity and integration with audio production + graphic design, there is nothing like using a Mac.

I'm not even a Mac fan-boy as I still work for Microsoft, but I do prefer the usability features in a Mac to a PC, hands down.


what problems? i've never have any problems with a PC (seriously). I did graphics on a mac and it was really fucking slow, shit would crash, it took much longer to do what i wanted, windows would constantly minimize and disappear, i was using one button mouse which is even more fucking annoying.. it took much longer to render stuff that i did in video or 3d, i don't understand the hype + they are much more expensive, whats the point?
macs are useless and overrated.

(I'm not even going to talk about how shitload of programs and formats are not supported on a Mac and you are forced to use limited software you are provided with)


Posted by malek on Jul-18-2007 04:21:

I will go with geroin for this one, I used photoshop with the mac and it blows compared to the windows version.

Force quit, yeah been there, done that... but that doesn't mean anything, it still crashes.

I would recommend a mac to my mom but thats about it, there's way too much limitation with them.


Posted by r5a on Jul-18-2007 04:51:

Re: Geeks: Mac Book noob question(s)

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I just bought a mac book and am trying to wrap my head around simple things. I've been told that when you can't figure out something, it's because you're used to doing it the difficult windows way.

Some questions:

- why won't safari take up the whole screen when I maximize it using the button at the top left of the screen?
- is it possible to create a shortcut that deletes entire words at a time instead of individual letters/characters?
- how can I import the organization that I have on my other installations of MSN messenger, or is that not possible?
- What is the best way to connect this laptop to my other laptop to transfer files? I have an 80gb ipod, would that work (well)?

I'm sure I will have more questions but some help with the above would be a good starting point and very much appreciated!


S

- becasue the dock is at the bottom? i always thought that was why.
- already awns.
- dont understand what you want here
- crossover cable - 5-15 bucks and a little networking.


Posted by NuERA on Jul-18-2007 14:18:

sarah, soon you will your mac


Posted by Skipper on Jul-18-2007 14:25:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
mac blows period, overrated

i've used it for 3months and its so fucking frustrating to get shit to work that takes 2 seconds to do in windows. Also its not stable at all, the computers we've had in Mac Labs would fucking freeze everytime i used it, i call it the spinning circle of death that never stops spinning, no you can't ctr alt del, you have to restart losing all your work.


Personally I think it depends on your learning curve and expectations - I'm not expecting it to be just like windows. Obviously if you wanted something just like windows, by a PC based notebook.

I suspect shared computers, like those in labs, endure a lot of abuse. That might have just as much or more to do with the poor functionality you experienced.

r5a - the organization in my MSN list is basically friends/family/coworkers/etc where each contact is in one of those groups on my list, not part of one giant list.


Posted by exstasie on Jul-18-2007 14:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper

r5a - the organization in my MSN list is basically friends/family/coworkers/etc where each contact is in one of those groups on my list, not part of one giant list.


When I logged into to MSN on my Mac for the first time, it automatically loaded like that.

I switch back and forth from Mac to Windows and haven't a problem.

Except one time, it 'deleted' all of my contacts whenever I would sign on to my Mac, and I couldn't re-add them because it said that contact was already your friend.

It worked fine on my PC laptop...after about a week or two, it fixed itself.

Weird



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