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ableton being a *******

Working on a remix, with deadline tomorrow... sending back and forth with my producing buddy..

How can it be a 2.4ghz core2duo can't handle a project an amd athlon xp 2500+ processor can. It's rediculous and I'm super frustrated. Freezing doesn't solve any of the problems for my partner. Any other tips than just that ableton sucks donkey balls regarding cpu usage?

bad dual core utilisation and audio drivers?
if freezing doesnt help, his computer must be screwed.

No, way more intense projects run just fine at his place, and don't run on my oldie amd...

Are there plugins which are known to be intel (dual core) unfriendly ? :P

Ableton 6 itself should be fully capable of handling dual core.

Oh man I'm so frustrated right now!!

Tell him to use a Hardware profile. My load ability pretty much doubles when I use the production profile. Seriously.

I think hardware profiles is the way to go as fledz said but....

Try the tips on this website....

http://www.musicxp.net/tuning_tips.php

Next go to the M-audio website and try different drivers for you 24/96.

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do...lder_releases=1

Try the newest and the older versions.

Oh yea definitely get to the root of the problem but not now. You guys have a deadline tomorrow right?

Go with the hardware profile as it takes 5min to setup and it will give you the necessary breathing room. Then tomorrow when you get some free time you can go more in depth and figure out why it's doing that.

Thanks for the replies. But I don't see how any of them could help .
First of all it's my partner's pc messing up. not mine. Sorry if I wasn't clear about that.

It's strange that he has an overload near 500% (2.4ghz dual core/core2duo) while I'm only at 80% (1.8ghz single core), that's just not right. Any other (way heavier) Ableton project just loads fine at his place, I can't take any of the heavier ones. So it's a project specific problem. We just can't seem to find out what is the problem exactly. Shit

We worked out a game plan but the problem is far from solved

hey ableton users, without starting a new thread, and without telling me to rtfm can someone tell me how to make it so that in ableton when you make a midi track, the clip isnt default set to SWING 8.

i have live 6 and it always makes my midi clips swing 8 by default. Its fucking annoying.
(I rarely use ableton, and just for midi when i run out of hardware to sequence midi on.)

I'd rather have you opening a new topic. Thanks. And just to help you out, I don't think you can set another default for the midi clip. I don't think theres anything wrong if this as a default setting honestly.

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Originally posted by Storyteller I'd rather have you opening a new topic. Thanks. And just to help you out, I don't think you can set another default for the midi clip. I don't think theres anything wrong if this as a default setting honestly.

oh ok, no need to start a new thread then if its not a feature. sorry, I just thought it would be a quick answer sort of thing. not trying to hijack thread.

and in my opinion default swing is annoying...when you are using it with other midi sequencers that do not have defualt swing settings. I'm just gonna use a tracker damn it.

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Originally posted by beats and beeps oh ok, no need to start a new thread then if its not a feature. sorry, I just thought it would be a quick answer sort of thing. not trying to hijack thread. and in my opinion default swing is annoying...when you are using it with other midi sequencers that do not have defualt swing settings. I'm just gonna use a tracker damn it.

www.renoise.com I swear by it. It's what I regularly use, but for composing with friends it's kind of hard, since hardly anyone uses Renoise

There's probably no solution to my problem anyways other than work around it.

probably it's just a single plugin which causes the high load due to a incompatibility or so. i would just o trough all synths and effects and disbale one by one to see which plugins use the most processing power..

That the problem he litterally disabled all and maintained a load of 140%, so I guess it really is something faulty... And I think I know what... The fruity loops filter. In the older ableton this plugin caused it to crash :P

just export each midi u got to a .wav file and arrange it that way. thats your best bet. you'll probably find out after doing that to about 2 or 3 different vsts that you found the route of your problem. its probably a vst thats overloading causing your cpu meter to sky rocket.

If you don't have any automation, and cant find a better solution, then open a new session and grab all of the midi's etc. out of the old one (in the file browser) then rearrange them in the new session. If you drop one of the tracks and discover a massive CPU overload then you have the reason.

z3ta+ doesn't support multi processing from what I know

You said you disabled all plugins - does this include effects?

Does the project use a lot of samples, compared to other more "intense" projects which might just use a lot of CPU cycles? Maybe he's got a crappy hard drive and it's dragging things down.

Did you check memory usage? If you're running out of memory, or the page file is much bigger than it needs to be, it's going to start paging to disk. Same effect as above.

Is the same version of Ableton Live on both PCs?

Also check the number of threads that Ableton Live has spun off, on his computer compared to yours. If the number is ridiculously high, then a lot of CPU power is being wasted on context switches. Some particularly poor code might go nuts in a dual-core environment while playing it safe in a single-core.

May be a dumb question, but is the option to allow multi-core processing turned on? I'm running the same processor, 4gigs of ram and have 0 problems - loaded with VST's and effects.

maby ur soundcard and drivers are configured wrong! this can cause cpu overload and freezing....

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Originally posted by DigiNut You said you disabled all plugins - does this include effects?

yes

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Does the project use a lot of samples, compared to other more "intense" projects which might just use a lot of CPU cycles? Maybe he's got a crappy hard drive and it's dragging things down.[/uote] no. Very little. 7 channels. [quote]Did you check memory usage? If you're running out of memory, or the page file is much bigger than it needs to be, it's going to start paging to disk. Same effect as above.

500mb of 1024. not that much.

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Is the same version of Ableton Live on both PCs?

yes

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Also check the number of threads that Ableton Live has spun off, on his computer compared to yours. If the number is ridiculously high, then a lot of CPU power is being wasted on context switches. Some particularly poor code might go nuts in a dual-core environment while playing it safe in a single-core.

Could be, only thing not checked from your list. It's quite strange. Anyway we made the deadline. I made all changes according to a to-do list we made together. After that I sent him the rendered project and he added things on top of that. Things work out and the track is ready for release probably within 2 months .

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Originally posted by Ray_Chappell May be a dumb question, but is the option to allow multi-core processing turned on? I'm running the same processor, 4gigs of ram and have 0 problems - loaded with VST's and effects.

I'll have to ask him hehhe. Would be a nice one if it isn't hahaha.

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