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Cuts, fare hikes menace TTC Miller = Retard

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Mayor David Miller lost a vote earlier this week to impose a higher land transfer tax and an annual vehicle registration tax. Afterward he warned that the city would have to tighten its belt and possibly make service cuts in order to cut down its debt.

AND HERE IS THE RESULT!

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Cuts, fare hikes menace TTC TTC told it has to chop $30 million from its budget for this year and another $100 million next year, Adam Giambrone says Jul 19, 2007 05:02 PM jim byers city hall bureau chief The Sheppard subway could be mothballed and Toronto Transit Commission riders hit with a 25-cent fare increase because of budget cuts at city hall, TTC chair Adam Giambrone said today. "It's a dark day," Giambrone told the Star in a telephone interview. "But we have no choice. I can't print money." Giambrone was briefed on the city's budget crisis today by city manager Shirley Hoy and said the TTC has to chop $30 million from its budget for this year and another $100 million next year. He's called an emergency commission meeting for 1 p.m. Friday to talk about how to cope, but he said he's calling for a number of critical moves that he admits will cause tremendous anger amongst transit users. The Sheppard subway could be closed entirely by the end of this year or the beginning of next year, Giambrone said. He also said the TTC likely will have to chop 21 surface routes, including the 26 Dupont, 67 Pharmacy and 120 Calvington routes. That will save one million dollars this year and $10 million next year, he said. The commission had hoped to spend millions to improve service and ease overcrowding on the Yonge Street subway line, but that no longer will be possible. City council on Monday voted to defer consideration of new taxes that would raise $356 million for the cash-strapped municipality next year. Mayor David Miller the next day said that means immediate moves are needed to contain costs. He warned some cuts might hurt, but there was no indication the damage would be so severe. Giambrone said the TTC cuts aren't a public relations measure aimed at trying to get council to change its mind or convince the province to help the city. "I can only provide service as to our budget," he said. "I can't have employees work for free." Giambrone said he warned councillors on Monday that major changes might be needed if new tax money wasn't forthcoming. "There will be a lot of pain," he said. "This affects each and every Torontonian."

Seriously WTF! This is retarded.SOURCE

This is unbelievable. The TTC is already a joke as it is, so we're making cutbacks now? That's exactly what we need with all these new condo developments going up.

Something needs to be done about this immediately.

holy fuck!

The Sheppard line just opened in 2002...and already they want to shut it down?? makes no sense

on the news they said that there is only 40,000 people on that line a day which is not enough..

and raise the fare again?? as if its not expensive enough

idiots, especially miller

Not that any of this exonerates Miller, but the TTC is essentially half of Toronto's budget. If anyone needs to figure out how to do more with less, it's them.

Of course, Miller doesn't actually understand that, he was just dumping his own problems onto the TTC, just as he was trying to dump them onto the taxpayers before that.

Oh, and notice how there's no background, context, or opposing viewpoints presented in the article? Right, that's because it's the Star. Seriously... please don't post material from that rag.

time to bump those threads from last fall where i warned everybody how crucial it was to vote against miller in that election. And how i told everyone that if miller were re-elected, we were all in big big trouble. As i predicted, miller is about to bankrupt this city. I fear that it will take decades to rebound after we reach rock bottom, which is exactly where we are headed with this mayor.

And yes, i am telling you "i told you so"

(Now ill sit back and watch the Detroitification of Toronto continue)

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Originally posted by The Highroller This is unbelievable. The TTC is already a joke as it is, so we're making cutbacks now? That's exactly what we need with all these new condo developments going up. Something needs to be done about this immediately.

Damn right.

Within the 4 years that I've been living here, I've seen the TTC go nowhere but down and fast. Sad,

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Originally posted by DigiNut Oh, and notice how there's no background, context, or opposing viewpoints presented in the article? Right, that's because it's the Star. Seriously... please don't post material from that rag.

Just out of curiosity, what newspaper do you read?

LOL the people that voted for Miller must be happy.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Just out of curiosity, what newspaper do you read?

oh it is not that,he just thinks he is far more superior and intelligent then anyone else on this board.

seen it on another forum, its crazy how the richest city can't get by!

This country is seriously FUBAR! Federal should hand back taxation points to the province instead of wasting them on planes, busses and boats for our "army".

get with the times kids.... get a car.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer oh it is not that,he just thinks he is far more superior and intelligent then anyone else on this board.

He actually is, well not EVERYONE, but a good chunk

ooooh abondoned subway line, cool i smel adventure...bring it on !

I think you smell a photography op, or I hope so lol

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Originally posted by Frenchie I think you smell a photography op, or I hope so lol

fuckin right, i may venture into lower bay soon

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Originally posted by Frenchie He actually is, well not EVERYONE, but a good chunk

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F*cken TTC prices

*sigh*

Good thing I Was planing to get a car within the next 2 months anyway. This really blows!

can someone tell me what the fuck are we doing in Afghanistan spending millions of dollars (to this day i don't know why are we there) while the city doesnt even have enough money for its transit services. About 5 years ago i remember paying $1.50 to ride TTC

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Originally posted by geroin can someone tell me what the fuck are we doing in Afghanistan spending millions of dollars (to this day i don't know why are we there) while the city doesnt even have enough money for its transit services. About 5 years ago i remember paying $1.50 to ride TTC

Something federal govt does within its jurisdiction vs something provincial and municipal govt is responsible within its jurisdiction.

Do I need to go over what each level of govt is suppose to be responsible under the law again?

yikes.

I understand the appeal of Toronto but it just seems like it's a chaotic mess these days (cost of living, traffic, TTC). I don't really pay attention, but who is more to blame for Toronto's woes? The Federal government not handing over enough or city council mismanaging their funds? or both?

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Originally posted by geroin can someone tell me what the fuck are we doing in Afghanistan spending millions of dollars (to this day i don't know why are we there) while the city doesnt even have enough money for its transit services. About 5 years ago i remember paying $1.50 to ride TTC

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As large of a budget-sucker as the TTC is, it is a critical piece of the city infrastructure. Making cutbacks can't be a good thing. How about a freeze on the sallaries of TTC workers for a couple of years...

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