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Posted by Cobalt on Jul-20-2007 05:08:

Old Tracks In New Sets

Has anyone else noticed how many tracks from the early 90s (or even late 80s) have been showing up in tracklists lately? I find it fascinating to hear sounds seemlessly blended across 15 or 20 years. I'm used to thinking of dance music as this hyper-trendy family of genres, where only the newest material is legit to play.

Are we seeing a sort of coming of age in dance music?


Posted by nefardec on Jul-20-2007 05:27:

maybe just a coming of age of the deejays


Posted by shaw on Jul-20-2007 05:28:

I'd say that at least part of it is due to the sudden & rapid growth, particularly with digital downloads & bedroom DJing becoming easier & more common. It's a way for seasoned or well-versed DJs to separate themselves from the chart-trolling new guys, and to appeal to the more knowledgeable listeners with something unexpected & with nostalgic appeal.


Posted by Cobalt on Jul-20-2007 05:39:

quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
I'd say that at least part of it is due to the sudden & rapid growth, particularly with digital downloads & bedroom DJing becoming easier & more common. It's a way for seasoned or well-versed DJs to separate themselves from the chart-trolling new guys, and to appeal to the more knowledgeable listeners with something unexpected & with nostalgic appeal.

That definitely seems possible. But I wonder if recent musical trends have also made the blending less obvious. A track from the early 90s would have stuck out in a set five years ago, but now it seems many tracks from that era mix in quite smoothly.
quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
maybe just a coming of age of the deejays

Heh. Perhaps so!


Posted by Domesticated on Jul-20-2007 05:40:

quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
I'd say that at least part of it is due to the sudden & rapid growth, particularly with digital downloads & bedroom DJing becoming easier & more common. It's a way for seasoned or well-versed DJs to separate themselves from the chart-trolling new guys, and to appeal to the more knowledgeable listeners with something unexpected & with nostalgic appeal.


Can confirm.

I try to do this myself sometimes.

How can they play the same tracks as you if they don't know what they are called and have no way of getting copies anyway?


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jul-20-2007 07:02:

Yes! I like this trend a lot.

Recently, I picked up the original mix of 'Hale Bopp', slowed it down quite a lot and spinned it in the middle of a tech-house set. It so naturally blended with the rest of mainly current music I played and it was wonderful to see how can almost a decade old song be put into a completely different context.


Posted by shaw on Jul-20-2007 07:03:

I'll admit to having done it a good deal lately, as well.


Posted by basd on Jul-20-2007 07:37:

Well, as a result of being stuck in the past music-wise, I tend to play a lot of older (5-7 years old) tracks.


Posted by Arteh on Jul-20-2007 08:43:

i think the very first old tracks in a new era was plastikman - spastik and Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-20-2007 08:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Arteh
i think the very first old tracks in a new era was plastikman - spastik and Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit

Do you ever make any sense?


Posted by sljiva on Jul-20-2007 09:03:

Yeah, I've noticed that trend too. For example, I was listening to one of the Booka Shade promo mixes the other day where they played Marmion - Sch�neberg and Choice - Acid Eiffel among all that new mnml/tech house stuff and it sounded great. That two tracks didn't excel at all, nor they ruined the flow of the set. They just made it much more interesting


Posted by Arteh on Jul-20-2007 09:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Do you ever make any sense?


this was just an example :P


Posted by eRRaTiK on Jul-20-2007 09:56:

Desyn Masiello - Balance 008
Disk 2
1. Orbital � Halcyon + On + On


Danny Howells - GU027 Miami
Disk 1
7. Tantra - Hills Of Katmandu (1979)


Posted by xpand_the_room on Jul-20-2007 13:25:

many of the older tracks were produced by people who were professional producers, not bedroom wannabes using hacked software. the production quality with older tracks is often much higher, hence why they still sound good, which won't be the case with most of today's tracks in 10 yrs time


Posted by Ted Promo on Jul-20-2007 13:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Arteh
this was just an example :P


...of you not making any sense?


Posted by tubularbills on Jul-20-2007 14:06:

not only in livesets, but just plain ol' regular download sites.

i can't count the number of times recently that i've gone onto beatport or djdownload and i'll just be browsing around and all of a sudden...BAM! 1995 release date. crazy.


Posted by RJT on Jul-20-2007 14:09:

http://tranceaddict.com/forums/show...threadid=415878

quote:

10. Moby - Go (Woodtick Mix / Edit)


Classic.


Posted by all-nite-freak on Jul-20-2007 14:25:

acid is gonna make a big comeback


context>date of release


Posted by Ted Promo on Jul-20-2007 14:30:

quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak
acid is gonna make a big comeback


It already is. Zabs & Fanciulli have been spinning the hell out of some acid, and Fanciulli has been making some acid tracks. Even Chris Fortier has been making acid tracks, a couple are on his new album. Acid's already making a comeback, I just hope the new crop doesn't manhandle and mangle that genre into an indiscernible, miasmal goo after trending it out.


Posted by all-nite-freak on Jul-20-2007 14:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
It already is. Zabs & Fanciulli have been spinning the hell out of some acid, and Fanciulli has been making some acid tracks. Even Chris Fortier has been making acid tracks, a couple are on his new album. Acid's already making a comeback, I just hope the new crop doesn't manhandle and mangle that genre into an indiscernible, miasmal goo after trending it out.


dont mention zabs and fanciulli because they have fucking sucked balls all year...its shameful they get paid.

fuck the dj's...producers are were its at you winamp worshipper:P

Tommy Four Seven and Tony Rohr for life



one plus one is a great name for that duo...because its pure grade school shit...Fanciulli should have stuck with mojo. Worst duo ever.


ps Dj Fex makes your cow bleed and zabs sucks his thumb...nerd music that makes me not dance.


Posted by montana on Jul-21-2007 08:03:

quote:
Originally posted by sljiva Booka Shade


used to be trance (& euro) producers. same for m.a.n.d.y.

booka shade once mentioned in an interview that the first version of Body Language was trance.


Posted by Nostalgic on Jul-21-2007 18:10:

John Digweed was hammering "Saints and Sinners - Pushin too hard (Futureshock remix") in a good amount of his sets from 2005 to some of his earlier sets in 2007 along with "Schiller - Ruhe (Humate Remix)"


Posted by azone on Jul-27-2007 22:56:

I always throw in old tracks. I feel like I have knowledge of a lot of older tracks that the newer generation probably hasn't even heard. I really enjoy playing great older tracks and having people come ask what it was. I use a lot of stuff from '92-'98. There's a lot of out of this world dance music from back then. A lot of crap I hear now I don't even know how people dance to it. If you spend a lot of time in clubs (as opposed to internet radio or downloading sets online) DJ's play older tracks all the time. I refuse to play only the newest tracks if I don't think the quality is there. A lot of sets try to throw in just newer tracks and many of them aren't up to snuff and it makes it boring.
I've got a couple new July mixes and a bunch of archived mixes on myspace you can hear a lot of older stuff like...

Red Devil - Gamelan
Utah Saints - Star (Union Jack Mix)
Tenth Chapter - Wired (The Stonk Remix)
Floorplay - Automatic (Original Mix)
DJ Misjah & DJ Tim - Access (Original)
Max Graham - Shoreline (Club Mix)
Schiller - Ruhe (Humate)
The Lotus Position - Irresistable Force
Aphex Twin - Analogue Bubblebath 3
Orbital - Remind
Scubadevils - Celestial Symphony
Cosmic Baby - Spacetrack

when I play out if the set is 2 hours or more I play a lot of older stuff.


Posted by Sat on Jul-27-2007 23:24:

quote:
Cristian Varela - Live @ Shockers 2003
Ben Sims - City Life (Marco Bailey mix)
Bando - Gate C45
Hardcell - The Costume
Dj Preach - Berlin
Angel Alanis & Rees Urban - Game Over Rework
Dj Ladida - Bullet 1
ID
ID
Marco Bailey - Platinium (Roku rework)
Bando - Ei en Ei
Archae & Grovskopa - Emergence One (Christian W�nsch mix)
Dave Clarke - The Wolf
Persuasion Channel - Saddam
Sven V�th - Shock Ralley (Danilo Vigorito mix)
Mind Burn - Abstract Synth
Len Faki - Figure 1.1
Marco Bailey - Platinium
Black Codes - Experiment 1
Black Codes - Flesh (Unknown Artist mix 2)
Yazoo - Don't Go (Re-mix)
Vincent De Wit - Full Charge
Quartz - Calling
Technasia - Final Quadrant
Gunjack - Outlands (Mark Broom mix)
Jeff Mills - Confidentials (A2)
Henrik B - Avalon
Bando - La Influencia
Ben Sims - Oblivion (Mark Williams mix)
Black Codes - Experiment 4
Felipe - Puella
Black Codes - Experiment 3
Felipe - Puella
Black Codes - Experiment 2
Cristian Varela - Your Body Experience
Black Codes - Experiment 2
Ben Sims - City Life (Tobias Von Hofsten mix)
Mark Broom - J2000 (The Advent mix)
ID
Bando - Rumba Bacana (Cristian Varela mix)
Angel Alanis & Rees Urban - Girl Fucks Boy
Alter Ego - Blast


probably original from 80s.. mixing is awesome..


Posted by noikeee on Jul-27-2007 23:25:

i think acid already made a comeback that started about 2 years ago, along with the supposedly "electro" stuff with the fart basslines.

this trend of throwing in 1 or 2 old tracks at random makes perfect sense. hope it stays because that's how dj'ing is supposed to be - working the crowd with all the music available.


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