"Who the hell are we going to nuke? Tell me Barack, who do want to nuke?"
Awesome.
Posted by josh4 on Jul-22-2007 17:53:
quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
Apparently I agree with Mike Gravel on everything except Iran sanctions. Not too familiar with him, but he seems like a bit a of a crazy old bastard:
"Who the hell are we going to nuke? Tell me Barack, who do want to nuke?"
Awesome.
yeah man. i wouldn't be surprised if gravel becomes the stable alternative to the barack & hilary camps
Posted by Q5echo on Jul-22-2007 22:56:
quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
he seems like a bit a of a crazy old bastard
indeed.
once any one of these candidates makes the office any one of these issues immediately become subject to a whole panoply of considerations.
in fact, without serious grounding of one's fundamental convictions (notice i didn't say "moral") the Office of the President can be about as subjective as a House of Commons.
NONE of the Democrats have exhibited such grounding IMO.
so you can't put too much stock into a chart like this, but it is handy.
Posted by MisterOpus1 on Jul-22-2007 23:23:
quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
NONE of the Democrats have exhibited such grounding IMO.
Such as?
And I'm curious if you feel the same way about one of your GOP darlings, Romney. Or McCain for that matter, who both seem to have terrific sense of "grounding" when they need to get the votes from your base.
Posted by kush paintings on Jul-22-2007 23:52:
I can't believe I am seriously stating my opinion on torture.
Posted by Q5echo on Jul-23-2007 01:29:
quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Such as?
you cannot pin down Billary on Iraq.
...or Obama on abortion or much for that matter. he's intelligent but almost an empty suit when it comes to addressing any issue other than Iraq, but not as much as Biden though. Biden's just dumb.
...Edwards don't get me started on Edwards.
quote:
And I'm curious if you feel the same way about one of your GOP darlings, Romney. Or McCain for that matter, who both seem to have terrific sense of "grounding" when they need to get the votes from your base.
they're politicians but i believe them to be more convictually<--word? grounded across the board than the Donks.
this shouldn't even be a discussion.
the Donks are all over the place but more importantly, influenced very easily to stray from their convictions (i keep using this word convictions but i'm too lazy to come up with a better term right now)
Posted by Marc Summers on Jul-23-2007 01:38:
look at ron paul trying to oppose everything like he's somebody
Posted by Sunsnail on Jul-23-2007 01:47:
10-term congressman and M.D. isn't something anymore? for fucks sake
Posted by Kapedano on Jul-23-2007 02:35:
Democrats have a woman that isnt woman enough, they have a black guy that isnt black enough and they have a man, well, he isnt man enough :]
Both sides are weak in my opinion.
Posted by Q5echo on Jul-23-2007 03:04:
quote:
Originally posted by Kapedan
Democrats have a woman that isnt woman enough, they have a black guy that isnt black enough and they have a man, well, he isnt man enough :]
Both sides are weak in my opinion.
you said it.
look at this...
the cover of next month's Esquire Magazine.Posted by Q5echo on Jul-23-2007 03:35:
quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
10-term congressman and M.D. isn't something anymore? for fucks sake
sure it does, but he's so far out there on stupid shit it cancels everything else about him out.
actually, come to think of it, being a 10 term Congressman does makes him an inherently crappy choice as an Executive. not to mention the most powerful Executive in the world.
it's hardly a qualifier. it's a detractor
Posted by DJ Shibby on Jul-23-2007 05:38:
Gravel, eh?
Interesting... will need to do some more research.
Posted by EvilDust on Jul-25-2007 15:09:
quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
look at ron paul trying to oppose everything like he's somebody
I think he just opposes government spending for all those programs.
Less government spending = less robbery in the form of taxes
Citizens get more money to freely spend on the kind of education, health care, security, etc that they really want without any middle men.
unless americans really do think the federal government can run these programs more effectively than say, their local communities, in which they have more of a say.
Posted by Q5echo on Jul-26-2007 00:50:
about Ron Paul
this will be my only comment about it here.
Posted by Sunsnail on Jul-26-2007 00:52:
that is quite an ambiguous comment.
Posted by Groundhog Boy on Jul-26-2007 02:10:
quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
you said it.
look at this...
the cover of next month's Esquire Magazine.
I guess you can cut Mitt "$300 Spa Visits" Romney off your list of potentials, Q. At least Edwards gave the haircut money back to his campaign, which I've found no indication that Romney did.
According to the woman who worked on him, he's pretty enough to start with, so why waste the $300?
quote:
Stacy Andrews, who made up Romney for Hidden Beauty, said he barely needs makeup.
"He's already tan," she said. "We basically put a drop of foundation on him � and we powdered him a little bit."
Posted by Q5echo on Jul-27-2007 05:01:
quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
I guess you can cut Mitt "$300 Spa Visits" Romney off your list of potentials, Q. At least Edwards gave the haircut money back to his campaign, which I've found no indication that Romney did.
According to the woman who worked on him, he's pretty enough to start with, so why waste the $300?
Edwards is much prettier than Romney, no question.
if it's just a question of hair then, maybe, Romney might have a chance but as far as the entire package is concerned Edwards' come-hither fetchingness makes runway models look like hobos.
don't get me started on Edwards.
